EPThopefully the fight is actually over
I am actually not interested in their fight anymore. I just want post-wano and other one piece affairs to happen.
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goody153
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hopefully the fight is actually over I am actually not interested in their fight anymore. I just want post-wano and other one piece affairs to happen. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2552 Posts
To all the doubters saying "the raid will fail", "Kaido will win", or "there needs to be another timeskip", understand that Oda actually understands how to properly write a story, despite his incredibly slow pace and overindulgence of shonen fights, and be thankful he doesn't get his ideas from you. Can't wait for the plot progression to start back up again! | ||
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goody153
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As cool as Kaido is he's really just one of the big arc villain but not the biggest villain in OP. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On May 13 2022 20:41 Hyperbola wrote: Kaido ain't dead but he's KO'd for sure. To all the doubters saying "the raid will fail", "Kaido will win", or "there needs to be another timeskip", understand that Oda actually understands how to properly write a story, despite his incredibly slow pace and overindulgence of shonen fights, and be thankful he doesn't get his ideas from you. Can't wait for the plot progression to start back up again! I've been constantly dissapointed in Oda's action since post time skip. It's like every arc I'm thinking to myself "Can we move on to the next arc?" I thought Wano would be the peak one piece and where Oda finally stops dragging the shit out of his arcs and stop his repetitive plot line and it was by far the most dissapointing arc full of plot holes. I'm afraid one piece is gonna turn into Aot. (IMO it already has with nika reveal) | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2552 Posts
On May 14 2022 10:11 Shinokuki wrote: I've been constantly dissapointed in Oda's action since post time skip. It's like every arc I'm thinking to myself "Can we move on to the next arc?" I thought Wano would be the peak one piece and where Oda finally stops dragging the shit out of his arcs and stop his repetitive plot line and it was by far the most dissapointing arc full of plot holes. I'm afraid one piece is gonna turn into Aot. (IMO it already has with nika reveal) I agree with this sentiment for the past few arcs which felt like filler but I honestly think One Piece will drastically change after Wano is over simply because there is no possible filler left. The only characters remaining who can pose a threat to the strawhats are the World Government and the Blackbeard pirates. Also maybe Shanks if he turns on Luffy, which I don't think will happen. From here on out I believe it's gonna be a straight shot to Raftel, One Piece, and the great war with the World Government. We might visit Elbaf but it'll be a mini arc like Zou without a serious fight. I'm very optimistic for the future of One Piece. Oda, don't let us down! | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 13 2022 16:53 evilfatsh1t wrote: + Show Spoiler + no "winner" caption. another round confirmed. Didn't multiple of the fights already end with a KO and start the next chapter with the confirmation? | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
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herMan
Japan2056 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
What's the chance Big Mom and Kaidou find each other in the middle of earth? | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2552 Posts
On May 17 2022 06:41 PVJ wrote: The rock flashback was great actually, the highlight of the chapter. (Perhaps it is just me but I couldn't really track and conceptualise the whole water flow part) What's the chance Big Mom and Kaidou find each other in the middle of earth? Very high, apparently! New chapter is out: + Show Spoiler + Kaido confirmed defeated by the narrator. He put up a decent showing but I sincerely doubt that he's actually the strongest pirate alive. He basically had two things going for him: impenetrable scales and CoC infused attacks. The scales turned out to be not so impenetrable early on and once his CoC attacks could be countered by someone else who knew how to do it, it was only a matter of time before he was taken out. I'm not complaining though, I'm glad this fight is finally over. And the best news is that there's no break next week! | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8848 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On May 27 2022 10:48 Hyperbola wrote: Very high, apparently! New chapter is out: + Show Spoiler + Kaido confirmed defeated by the narrator. He put up a decent showing but I sincerely doubt that he's actually the strongest pirate alive. He basically had two things going for him: impenetrable scales and CoC infused attacks. The scales turned out to be not so impenetrable early on and once his CoC attacks could be countered by someone else who knew how to do it, it was only a matter of time before he was taken out. I'm not complaining though, I'm glad this fight is finally over. And the best news is that there's no break next week! Wow, I was just joking. Shouldn't have been. Does anyone know how long this fight took in terms of One Piece-time? | ||
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Archeon
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On May 27 2022 10:48 Hyperbola wrote: Very high, apparently! New chapter is out: + Show Spoiler + Kaido confirmed defeated by the narrator. He put up a decent showing but I sincerely doubt that he's actually the strongest pirate alive. He basically had two things going for him: impenetrable scales and CoC infused attacks. The scales turned out to be not so impenetrable early on and once his CoC attacks could be countered by someone else who knew how to do it, it was only a matter of time before he was taken out. I'm not complaining though, I'm glad this fight is finally over. And the best news is that there's no break next week! + Show Spoiler + I mean Kaido fought the three supernovas + 2 vice captains, tanked basically all their attacks, then beat the crap out of Luffy, beat Yamato prolly while holding back, beat Luffy a second time and then still had a few aces up his sleeve. There's pretty little doubt in my mind that Kaido is stronger than BM and very likely still stronger than Luffy, even if he lost the head on trade after all of this So imo it remains to be seen if BB is actually stronger than Kaido. He doesn't need to be to give Luffy a good fight. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Anyway, I'm glad it's over! | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
![[image loading]](https://puu.sh/J2Uza/0b0fed617d.png) You can see Kaido himself in the shot, hes the little dragon silhouette inside the bigger dragon eating the punch (that is eventually punched through). | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2552 Posts
On May 28 2022 11:35 Archeon wrote: + Show Spoiler + I mean Kaido fought the three supernovas + 2 vice captains, tanked basically all their attacks, then beat the crap out of Luffy, beat Yamato prolly while holding back, beat Luffy a second time and then still had a few aces up his sleeve. There's pretty little doubt in my mind that Kaido is stronger than BM and very likely still stronger than Luffy, even if he lost the head on trade after all of this So imo it remains to be seen if BB is actually stronger than Kaido. He doesn't need to be to give Luffy a good fight. I agree that Kaido does have some great stamina, however keep in mind that Luffy had a number of fights before his main match as well, including apoo, ulti, and a bunch of gifters. In terms of strength, I've seen no indication that Kaido is stronger than Big Mom. They fought equally for days, and it took two supernovas to beat her vs just Luffy for Kaido. The evidence seems to actually point to Big Mom being stronger. And don't forget Shanks, who was able to stop Kaido from reaching Marineford and was one of the faces that appeared in the "do you think you're as great as they are?" silhouette. So there's another pirate that's most likely equal to Kaido. By shonen logic, Blackbeard will definitely be stronger, since Luffy has already reached Yonko level. Typically in these stories you need to establish the antagonist as a threat to the MC so you would need to have Luffy lose an exchange or two with him before finally struggling to beat him in a main fight. If Luffy just mopped the floor with Blackbeard it would make for a really boring story. Finally, although they're not pirates, characters like Akainu, Dragon, and Imu are also probably at or even above Kaido's level. We haven't seen enough of them to really tell if that's the case, but it's certainly enough to throw doubt on the "strongest creature alive" claim. | ||
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Zambrah
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cLutZ
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