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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 03 2020 16:24 GMT
#30661
Wew Nice one Oda. Hope she does some cool shit.
Never Knows Best.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
July 03 2020 17:36 GMT
#30662
On June 19 2020 22:37 Zambrah wrote:
I’ve heard speculation Yamato is Oden


Yamato is Oden...at heart! Nice surprise but what a weird reveal, she takes her mask off and suddenly the kimono is sleeveless and her chest size grows..thats so Oda.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-03 19:58:21
July 03 2020 19:42 GMT
#30663
On July 04 2020 02:36 Warri wrote:
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On June 19 2020 22:37 Zambrah wrote:
I’ve heard speculation Yamato is Oden


Yamato is Oden...at heart! Nice surprise but what a weird reveal, she takes her mask off and suddenly the kimono is sleeveless and her chest size grows..thats so Oda.

He/She tears off the sleeves on the last page. Also the chest is pretty modest for One Piece standards so it would have been hidden well enough under all that clothing.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
July 04 2020 11:09 GMT
#30664
On July 04 2020 04:42 Elentos wrote:
pretty modest for One Piece standards
Hahahaha.

Anyways, suprised the horns weren't part of the mask but part of her head. Artificial Devil fruit? Real Devil fruit? Inherited? Who is the mother?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 04 2020 20:49 GMT
#30665
On July 04 2020 20:09 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
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On July 04 2020 04:42 Elentos wrote:
pretty modest for One Piece standards
Hahahaha.

Anyways, suprised the horns weren't part of the mask but part of her head. Artificial Devil fruit? Real Devil fruit? Inherited? Who is the mother?

I mean.... She is Kaido's offpsring, right? And Kaido has horns.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
July 06 2020 16:29 GMT
#30666
She has to have a mother though
The heart's eternal vow
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 06 2020 17:39 GMT
#30667
Maybe Oni reproduce like bacteria or something and she just sorta split off of him
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 07 2020 14:20 GMT
#30668
She looks just like Black Maria so I think that's her mom. However, it could also just be Oda sameface going on.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 07 2020 15:25 GMT
#30669
On July 07 2020 23:20 Hyperbola wrote:
She looks just like Black Maria so I think that's her mom. However, it could also just be Oda sameface going on.

She is Nami's long-lost twin sister.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-07 18:28:48
July 07 2020 18:27 GMT
#30670
On July 07 2020 23:20 Hyperbola wrote:
She looks just like Black Maria so I think that's her mom. However, it could also just be Oda sameface going on.


Interesting you say that. I looked at the horns of Kaido, Black Maria, and Yamato. Kaido's horns are portrayed as thick, white, and with very wide curves in the manga. Black Maria's are mostly black except at the very base, with only slight curves and otherwise fairly vertical and skinny. Yamato's horns were drawn with a white bottom half and a black top half, with the curvature and thickness seemingly a middle ground between Kaido's and Black Maria's. Could be coincidence or how they were drawn in the panels I found (and I didn't check others for consistency), but it seems like a possibility.

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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 08 2020 02:40 GMT
#30671
Imagine giving birth to a child with horns...
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 08 2020 03:37 GMT
#30672
On July 08 2020 11:40 Hyperbola wrote:
Imagine giving birth to a child with horns...

I imagine if they are like other many species that have horns, like cows or deer for instance, they aren't born with horns and they grow in later
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
July 08 2020 13:42 GMT
#30673
I just found it odd. Are the horns a devil fruit coincidence, or is it a confirmation of Kaido and daughter being a different species to humans? The matter of the identity of the mother is that the horns can be an inherited trait from the mother as well and Kaido could be a human who happened to eat a fruit that gave him horns. Afterall, kaido's horns are different to his daughter's.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 08 2020 19:11 GMT
#30674
Kaido's horns could be from his fruit, he does have the horns as a dragon, and as a dragon they are 100% attached to and coming from his flesh, so he could just like that feature and have enough control over his fruit that he can just kinda keep the horns at all times?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 08 2020 23:09 GMT
#30675
On July 09 2020 04:11 Zambrah wrote:
Kaido's horns could be from his fruit, he does have the horns as a dragon, and as a dragon they are 100% attached to and coming from his flesh, so he could just like that feature and have enough control over his fruit that he can just kinda keep the horns at all times?

I don't think this is the case since Momonosuke doesn't have horns when in his dragon form. For comparison:

This is Kaido:
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And this is Momonosuke:
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Notice how they both have antlers but only Kaido has horns? This leads me to believe that the horns must come from Kaido himself and not the fruit he ate.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the horns are not random and are a feature of Kaido's species. There's just way too many horned people on Onigashima for it to be a coincidence. There's also a gigantic horned skull in which they all live. I'm pretty sure that they're either descendants of Oars or some mixed race of Oni/Human. Maybe the numbers are pureblooded Oni while Kaido and Maria are some mix. It would explain the size differential.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 09 2020 10:43 GMT
#30676
Momonosuke is also a child, could just be dragons grow em in later in life or Kaidos just got an extra set in his dragon form. I mean, Momo's dragon form also doesn't have any fire, but Kaidos does, I'm not sure how strictly similar we can really say they are.

Not that I wouldn't prefer Kaido to be some neat species, it's just also possible that his big weird head horns are from his fruit. I doubt Kaido is related to a giant though, and the fact that Oars had horns and other Giants don't say that maybe horns aren't necessarily a species specific trait, could be you just... Get em as a human sometimes? It's weird but it's also One Piece, lol.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 09 2020 12:06 GMT
#30677
I am pretty sure that the Japanese dragon traditionally does not have horns. Given that Yamato and Black Maria both have horns similar to Kaido's, it would seem that it has do with Kaido's origin and not powers.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 09 2020 17:09 GMT
#30678
On July 09 2020 19:43 Zambrah wrote:
Momonosuke is also a child, could just be dragons grow em in later in life or Kaidos just got an extra set in his dragon form. I mean, Momo's dragon form also doesn't have any fire, but Kaidos does, I'm not sure how strictly similar we can really say they are.

Not that I wouldn't prefer Kaido to be some neat species, it's just also possible that his big weird head horns are from his fruit. I doubt Kaido is related to a giant though, and the fact that Oars had horns and other Giants don't say that maybe horns aren't necessarily a species specific trait, could be you just... Get em as a human sometimes? It's weird but it's also One Piece, lol.

I didn't say Kaido was a giant, I said I think he's an Oni/Human hybrid. Oni is just my shorthand for a yet unconfirmed species of horned giants (to which I believe the Numbers belong). I think there's a lot of evidence that points to Kaido not being human. He's massive in size and he's got the same horns as Hatcha who is one of the numbers and is clearly a giant of some sort.

Also, Wano is based off of a Japanese folk tale of "Momotaro and the Island of Ogres". Momotaro = momonosuke and the Island of Ogres was literally called Onigashima. Oni is the Japanese word for demon / ogre, hinting that the people who live on Onigashima are probably not human.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8926 Posts
July 10 2020 07:54 GMT
#30679
is there a chapter this week?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-10 17:36:27
July 10 2020 08:08 GMT
#30680
On July 10 2020 02:09 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 19:43 Zambrah wrote:
Momonosuke is also a child, could just be dragons grow em in later in life or Kaidos just got an extra set in his dragon form. I mean, Momo's dragon form also doesn't have any fire, but Kaidos does, I'm not sure how strictly similar we can really say they are.

Not that I wouldn't prefer Kaido to be some neat species, it's just also possible that his big weird head horns are from his fruit. I doubt Kaido is related to a giant though, and the fact that Oars had horns and other Giants don't say that maybe horns aren't necessarily a species specific trait, could be you just... Get em as a human sometimes? It's weird but it's also One Piece, lol.

I didn't say Kaido was a giant, I said I think he's an Oni/Human hybrid. Oni is just my shorthand for a yet unconfirmed species of horned giants (to which I believe the Numbers belong). I think there's a lot of evidence that points to Kaido not being human. He's massive in size and he's got the same horns as Hatcha who is one of the numbers and is clearly a giant of some sort.

Also, Wano is based off of a Japanese folk tale of "Momotaro and the Island of Ogres". Momotaro = momonosuke and the Island of Ogres was literally called Onigashima. Oni is the Japanese word for demon / ogre, hinting that the people who live on Onigashima are probably not human.


Im just saying its hard to peg One Piece human-species unless theyre outlandishly identifiable even by One Piece standards a la the Long Arm Tribe. I mean, Kaido is smaller than Big Mom, and Big Mom is a human, so size isnt a strict dictator of gianthood (at least not at Big Mom's size.) Its certainly perfectly possible Kaido and a lot of his men are a human-species, but maybe their horns are just worn like a headband or something, like what Kinemon makes for Kidd and Luffy.
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