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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 13 2016 15:14 GMT
#25421
Just a reminder - forum rules apply in this thread as well. Please stop ad hominem debates.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 16:21:43
June 13 2016 16:21 GMT
#25422
On June 13 2016 23:01 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
"Everyone is Luffy's equal."
-Forikorder

That isn't what he is saying at all. He's merely saying that we have lots of opportunity for opponents still in the new world and Luffy at this point in the story is far from being the strongest fighter. All of which is true.

I know Forik has a bad reputation around here, hell I just argued with him for like 3 pages a couple days ago. But come on at least look at what is being said.

I dunno, how many fighters in One Piece who aren't included under the umbrellas of "Youkou or Youkou Subordinate, High Ranking Marines, Shichibukai, Supernovas, high ranking Revolutionary Army guys, anyone in a standing army of a country, or another pirate crew" can you name? The only ones I can think of that don't fall under that massive umbrella are Galley-La and some random dudes from the coliseum.

My point is that such a group is too massively all en-compassing.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
June 13 2016 16:23 GMT
#25423
DF could only defy logic because he has awakened his fruit no? So far the only one we have seen so any power up is still possible.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 16:55:20
June 13 2016 16:54 GMT
#25424
On June 14 2016 01:21 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 23:01 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 13 2016 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
"Everyone is Luffy's equal."
-Forikorder

That isn't what he is saying at all. He's merely saying that we have lots of opportunity for opponents still in the new world and Luffy at this point in the story is far from being the strongest fighter. All of which is true.

I know Forik has a bad reputation around here, hell I just argued with him for like 3 pages a couple days ago. But come on at least look at what is being said.

I dunno, how many fighters in One Piece who aren't included under the umbrellas of "Youkou or Youkou Subordinate, High Ranking Marines, Shichibukai, Supernovas, high ranking Revolutionary Army guys, anyone in a standing army of a country, or another pirate crew" can you name? The only ones I can think of that don't fall under that massive umbrella are Galley-La and some random dudes from the coliseum.

My point is that such a group is too massively all en-compassing.

you realise i didnt mean literally anyone who falls into one of those groups right? i was just pointing out individuals in those groups could still easily be on Luffys level

DF could only defy logic because he has awakened his fruit no? So far the only one we have seen so any power up is still possible.


i was under the impression it was just the "turn random objects into strings" was the awakened ability and everything else was standard
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
June 13 2016 18:40 GMT
#25425
On June 13 2016 21:06 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 20:36 herMan wrote:
On June 12 2016 08:37 Forikorder wrote:
On June 11 2016 20:52 herMan wrote:
On June 10 2016 21:22 Forikorder wrote:
On June 10 2016 18:14 herMan wrote:
Broke my fucking heart to see there's no chapter up on mangastream.

I wonder how anyone that ain't a Yonkou is going to pose a threat against the straw hat crew. We're supposed to think Sanji's brothers are made of pure badass but I just can't see them winning against Luffy. Only case I see them bring adversity to the protagonists is if Sanji has to defeat them on his own or if Oda pulls the usual "luffy is disabled" cop out.


Doflamingo was stronger then Luffy and wasnt a Yonkou so...


Yes. However, as the story progresses, the protagonists get stronger and thus there have to be stronger opponents to match their new level. Now that Luffy is officially all about taking on Yonkous, there doesn't seem to be many contenders to oppose him in a believable fashion.

Edward Weevil? Maybe. I hope not though, he's a completely new character who feels like a total asspull and looks very dumb to boot.


taking on younkous with massive amount of planning, conspiring and allies hes not walking up to Kaidou and 1v1ing the guy


I don't know what you're trying to say. What I am saying is I don't think Luffy has many opponents equal in fighting ability in the current character pool if you don't count the yonkou and the admirals. Perhaps Kidd or some other top supernova, but no one has really been hyped up especially after Kidd and the others got smashed.


im saying his equals would be yonkou, admirals, some vice admirals, high ranking members of yonkou crew, other supernovas and other notables within the revolutionary army, standing armys of countries, Shichibukai and other pirate crews

Luffy is not anyone close to being a peerless fighter


He's not peerless, no, but I'm just wondering who his next serious opponent would be. Probably someone in Big Mom's crew or maybe the third calamity in Kaido's crew?

Still, I don't see any vice admiral standing up to Luffy if that man is not Garp and he's old and retired. If I recall correctly they are mostly relegated to a fodder role, as seen in Dressrosa, with some exceptions like Tsuru (who seems to be averse to fighting) and Momonga, whose abilities are pretty unknown.

The revolutionary army should be at least neutral towards luffy's party, I'd say they're not going to clash as they have common enemies and that plot-wise they are not going to clash for the foreseeable future. Also Robin is part of them and Ivankov is a friend.

Shichibukais are pretty much a joke at this point, right? Luffy just toppled the strongest one there was and the way they are structured is that the leader is vastly more powerful than his subordinates.

All I'm saying is the pool is shrinking from the _current_ pool of characters that we know. It's not like the situation after say, Enies Lobby, where all bets were off concerning who was gonna be the next villain.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 13 2016 18:45 GMT
#25426
I don't think the Shichibukai are a joke. I think that new Shichibukai , Edward Weevil or whatever, will probably be showing up as an opponent sooner or later, and I don't think he will be a pushover.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 13 2016 18:46 GMT
#25427
you also have to considere the context, luffy was not really alone against doffy but overall i agree that really few individual can step up and face him right now
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 13 2016 18:49 GMT
#25428
Not to mention that Doflamingo being the strongest one is debatable. Marineford showed most of the Shichibukai being at least near each other's level, other than Moria who got stomped. As of now I think its really just Buggy who is the only "joke" member of the group.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 13 2016 19:27 GMT
#25429
If Buggy didn't have his dopey personality he could be a legit fighter. I would like to see more of Hancock in combat situations. Dat on hit stone effect is pretty cool plus she has conquer haku. Though her turning people into stone thing is hard to balance and is pretty useless vs high tier people probably.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 13 2016 19:29 GMT
#25430
On June 14 2016 04:27 Slaughter wrote:
If Buggy didn't have his dopey personality he could be a legit fighter. I would like to see more of Hancock in combat situations. Dat on hit stone effect is pretty cool plus she has conquer haku. Though her turning people into stone thing is hard to balance and is pretty useless vs high tier people probably.

she has ranged attacks that turned smoker (partially) to stone so just because she cant OHKO anyone doesnt make it useless
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 13 2016 19:54 GMT
#25431
She broke Smoker's stick, I don't remember her turning him partly to stone. What page did that happen?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 13 2016 20:13 GMT
#25432
On June 14 2016 04:54 Sentenal wrote:
She broke Smoker's stick, I don't remember her turning him partly to stone. What page did that happen?

might have just been mooks

point is if you get hit by her arrow and youll petrify too
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 14 2016 14:02 GMT
#25433
On June 14 2016 04:27 Slaughter wrote:
If Buggy didn't have his dopey personality he could be a legit fighter. I would like to see more of Hancock in combat situations. Dat on hit stone effect is pretty cool plus she has conquer haku. Though her turning people into stone thing is hard to balance and is pretty useless vs high tier people probably.


I think that Oda said in an SBS that Buggy would have been equal to Shanks if he had fought or trained as much.
maru lover forever
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
June 14 2016 19:15 GMT
#25434
One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 is on sale on steam until 17th for 12,49€. Is it worth buying?
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
June 15 2016 08:58 GMT
#25435
I spent 80 hours into this game, and if you like Dynasty Warriors games, it's actually pretty good. The story is rushed and it lacks a few more characters, but the gameplay is fast and fun. It can get tedious once you plan to collect all the coins, but so are the DW games. There is a conquer the Grand Line mode that uses all the maps from the Story Mode, but with a few modifications, fight against admirals and other strong opponents, bounties...

Only real flaw for me is the lack of online co-op.
If you want to kick asses by the thousands, it deserves his overall positive reviews.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 15 2016 09:14 GMT
#25436
What is it? Fighting game? RPG?
maru lover forever
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 10:10:57
June 15 2016 10:08 GMT
#25437
Hard to explain, it's a Dynasty Warriors type of game!
Basically, you play one character, you have allies (both main characters and random scrubs), and you have to take objectives, complete goals and fight against thousands of basic opponents and a few names from the One Piece universe. There are like 40~ playable characters I think? And some RPG elements to improve your characters.

Give a look at a video on Steam/Youtube, it will be simplier this way.

This will give you a rough idea
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 15 2016 15:14 GMT
#25438
Its a hack 'n slash game with RPG elements.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 15 2016 15:28 GMT
#25439
On June 14 2016 23:02 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2016 04:27 Slaughter wrote:
If Buggy didn't have his dopey personality he could be a legit fighter. I would like to see more of Hancock in combat situations. Dat on hit stone effect is pretty cool plus she has conquer haku. Though her turning people into stone thing is hard to balance and is pretty useless vs high tier people probably.


I think that Oda said in an SBS that Buggy would have been equal to Shanks if he had fought or trained as much.

Buggy is gonna be the pirate king, just wait for it
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
June 15 2016 18:05 GMT
#25440
On June 16 2016 00:14 Sentenal wrote:
Its a hack 'n slash game with RPG elements.

Closer from the beat'em all genre.
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