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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
June 10 2016 23:12 GMT
#25401
80+ new posts and no new chapter. There could've been only 2 possibilities of what happened in this thread and I was not let down
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 11 2016 08:30 GMT
#25402
The One Piece thread...

.... WILL NEVER END!


ZE HA HA HA HA HA
maru lover forever
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2055 Posts
June 11 2016 11:52 GMT
#25403
On June 10 2016 21:22 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 18:14 herMan wrote:
Broke my fucking heart to see there's no chapter up on mangastream.

I wonder how anyone that ain't a Yonkou is going to pose a threat against the straw hat crew. We're supposed to think Sanji's brothers are made of pure badass but I just can't see them winning against Luffy. Only case I see them bring adversity to the protagonists is if Sanji has to defeat them on his own or if Oda pulls the usual "luffy is disabled" cop out.


Doflamingo was stronger then Luffy and wasnt a Yonkou so...


Yes. However, as the story progresses, the protagonists get stronger and thus there have to be stronger opponents to match their new level. Now that Luffy is officially all about taking on Yonkous, there doesn't seem to be many contenders to oppose him in a believable fashion.

Edward Weevil? Maybe. I hope not though, he's a completely new character who feels like a total asspull and looks very dumb to boot.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 11 2016 17:27 GMT
#25404
Honestly I know it's how it's written but it sometimes gets to me a little how weak Luffy is.
There are a million people he goes up against that 'realistically' he shouldn't ever stand a chance against, DD included. Issho as well.
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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2055 Posts
June 11 2016 21:29 GMT
#25405
That is a good point you are raising. I never had an issue with this until the Doflamingo fight. This man can turn shit into strings and impale you from a hundred different angles, how could you ever defeat this guy? The answer was to have him fight in a traditional way, which just didn't make sense to me.

My biggest gripe with fights is the fact that Robin is not invincible, like when we were initially introduced to her abilities against Pell. She can restrict your movement and you can't do a damn thing about it unless you're either very muscular physically or a logia. I was very confused to see her turning out to be a very weak crew member.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 11 2016 23:37 GMT
#25406
On June 11 2016 20:52 herMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 21:22 Forikorder wrote:
On June 10 2016 18:14 herMan wrote:
Broke my fucking heart to see there's no chapter up on mangastream.

I wonder how anyone that ain't a Yonkou is going to pose a threat against the straw hat crew. We're supposed to think Sanji's brothers are made of pure badass but I just can't see them winning against Luffy. Only case I see them bring adversity to the protagonists is if Sanji has to defeat them on his own or if Oda pulls the usual "luffy is disabled" cop out.


Doflamingo was stronger then Luffy and wasnt a Yonkou so...


Yes. However, as the story progresses, the protagonists get stronger and thus there have to be stronger opponents to match their new level. Now that Luffy is officially all about taking on Yonkous, there doesn't seem to be many contenders to oppose him in a believable fashion.

Edward Weevil? Maybe. I hope not though, he's a completely new character who feels like a total asspull and looks very dumb to boot.


taking on younkous with massive amount of planning, conspiring and allies hes not walking up to Kaidou and 1v1ing the guy
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 12 2016 07:56 GMT
#25407
On June 12 2016 06:29 herMan wrote:
That is a good point you are raising. I never had an issue with this until the Doflamingo fight. This man can turn shit into strings and impale you from a hundred different angles, how could you ever defeat this guy? The answer was to have him fight in a traditional way, which just didn't make sense to me.

My biggest gripe with fights is the fact that Robin is not invincible, like when we were initially introduced to her abilities against Pell. She can restrict your movement and you can't do a damn thing about it unless you're either very muscular physically or a logia. I was very confused to see her turning out to be a very weak crew member.


I dunno about weak, look at her vs Hakuba
maru lover forever
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 12 2016 09:23 GMT
#25408
On June 12 2016 16:56 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2016 06:29 herMan wrote:
That is a good point you are raising. I never had an issue with this until the Doflamingo fight. This man can turn shit into strings and impale you from a hundred different angles, how could you ever defeat this guy? The answer was to have him fight in a traditional way, which just didn't make sense to me.

My biggest gripe with fights is the fact that Robin is not invincible, like when we were initially introduced to her abilities against Pell. She can restrict your movement and you can't do a damn thing about it unless you're either very muscular physically or a logia. I was very confused to see her turning out to be a very weak crew member.


I dunno about weak, look at her vs Hakuba


she pretty rarely actually ends up fighting anyone it seems
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 12 2016 13:53 GMT
#25409
On June 12 2016 18:23 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2016 16:56 Incognoto wrote:
On June 12 2016 06:29 herMan wrote:
That is a good point you are raising. I never had an issue with this until the Doflamingo fight. This man can turn shit into strings and impale you from a hundred different angles, how could you ever defeat this guy? The answer was to have him fight in a traditional way, which just didn't make sense to me.

My biggest gripe with fights is the fact that Robin is not invincible, like when we were initially introduced to her abilities against Pell. She can restrict your movement and you can't do a damn thing about it unless you're either very muscular physically or a logia. I was very confused to see her turning out to be a very weak crew member.


I dunno about weak, look at her vs Hakuba


she pretty rarely actually ends up fighting anyone it seems

She has taken more of a support role, which is somewhat understandable. While he power is pretty damn strong, it has a huge weakness, whatever happens the the limb created happens to her iirc. So if she tries to grab at someone and they end up slicing that arm in two, she is in deep trouble. Not to mention lack of haki. Too many people in the new world could physically over power her ability now I think as well.

Though I agree she does seem extremely underused and would fucking love Robin to step up and get a kick ass fight or two going. It seems that her and Nami have been unfortunately delegated to the roles of fan service for now.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
June 12 2016 17:09 GMT
#25410
There are so many good characters that it feels like everyone's underused at some point. I'd love to see more Brook, and I want to know more about what Chopper studied during the skip. More of what Nami learned from the weather dudes, and how Robin fits into the revolutionary army.

I don't think anyone in particular is underutilized, I just think we have so much to potentially cover that it's really difficult to get it all done.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 12 2016 20:22 GMT
#25411
On June 13 2016 02:09 Rehio wrote:
There are so many good characters that it feels like everyone's underused at some point. I'd love to see more Brook, and I want to know more about what Chopper studied during the skip. More of what Nami learned from the weather dudes, and how Robin fits into the revolutionary army.

I don't think anyone in particular is underutilized, I just think we have so much to potentially cover that it's really difficult to get it all done.

This exactly.
Most of the crew hasnt had an interesting fight since Fishman island.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
June 12 2016 20:44 GMT
#25412
On June 13 2016 05:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 02:09 Rehio wrote:
There are so many good characters that it feels like everyone's underused at some point. I'd love to see more Brook, and I want to know more about what Chopper studied during the skip. More of what Nami learned from the weather dudes, and how Robin fits into the revolutionary army.

I don't think anyone in particular is underutilized, I just think we have so much to potentially cover that it's really difficult to get it all done.

This exactly.
Most of the crew hasnt had an interesting fight since Fishman island.

Well Fishman Island was just a bunch of stomps in the end, too. So really most of the crew hasn't had an interesting fight since they got separated at Sabaody pre-skip.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 12 2016 22:51 GMT
#25413
On June 13 2016 05:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 05:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 13 2016 02:09 Rehio wrote:
There are so many good characters that it feels like everyone's underused at some point. I'd love to see more Brook, and I want to know more about what Chopper studied during the skip. More of what Nami learned from the weather dudes, and how Robin fits into the revolutionary army.

I don't think anyone in particular is underutilized, I just think we have so much to potentially cover that it's really difficult to get it all done.

This exactly.
Most of the crew hasnt had an interesting fight since Fishman island.

Well Fishman Island was just a bunch of stomps in the end, too. So really most of the crew hasn't had an interesting fight since they got separated at Sabaody pre-skip.

Stomps yes but they did interesting things/showcased new abilities so the fights were interesting.
There was maybe one interesting fight in the dressrosa arc, and that was Luffy v DD. (Luffy v chinjao too I suppose)

Unless I'm forgetting something which I could be.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 13 2016 00:23 GMT
#25414
On June 13 2016 07:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 05:44 Elentos wrote:
On June 13 2016 05:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 13 2016 02:09 Rehio wrote:
There are so many good characters that it feels like everyone's underused at some point. I'd love to see more Brook, and I want to know more about what Chopper studied during the skip. More of what Nami learned from the weather dudes, and how Robin fits into the revolutionary army.

I don't think anyone in particular is underutilized, I just think we have so much to potentially cover that it's really difficult to get it all done.

This exactly.
Most of the crew hasnt had an interesting fight since Fishman island.

Well Fishman Island was just a bunch of stomps in the end, too. So really most of the crew hasn't had an interesting fight since they got separated at Sabaody pre-skip.

Stomps yes but they did interesting things/showcased new abilities so the fights were interesting.
There was maybe one interesting fight in the dressrosa arc, and that was Luffy v DD. (Luffy v chinjao too I suppose)

Unless I'm forgetting something which I could be.


thats the point of those fights though for the crew members to completely and utterly wreck people with there new abilities
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2055 Posts
June 13 2016 11:36 GMT
#25415
On June 12 2016 08:37 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 20:52 herMan wrote:
On June 10 2016 21:22 Forikorder wrote:
On June 10 2016 18:14 herMan wrote:
Broke my fucking heart to see there's no chapter up on mangastream.

I wonder how anyone that ain't a Yonkou is going to pose a threat against the straw hat crew. We're supposed to think Sanji's brothers are made of pure badass but I just can't see them winning against Luffy. Only case I see them bring adversity to the protagonists is if Sanji has to defeat them on his own or if Oda pulls the usual "luffy is disabled" cop out.


Doflamingo was stronger then Luffy and wasnt a Yonkou so...


Yes. However, as the story progresses, the protagonists get stronger and thus there have to be stronger opponents to match their new level. Now that Luffy is officially all about taking on Yonkous, there doesn't seem to be many contenders to oppose him in a believable fashion.

Edward Weevil? Maybe. I hope not though, he's a completely new character who feels like a total asspull and looks very dumb to boot.


taking on younkous with massive amount of planning, conspiring and allies hes not walking up to Kaidou and 1v1ing the guy


I don't know what you're trying to say. What I am saying is I don't think Luffy has many opponents equal in fighting ability in the current character pool if you don't count the yonkou and the admirals. Perhaps Kidd or some other top supernova, but no one has really been hyped up especially after Kidd and the others got smashed.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 13 2016 12:06 GMT
#25416
On June 13 2016 20:36 herMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2016 08:37 Forikorder wrote:
On June 11 2016 20:52 herMan wrote:
On June 10 2016 21:22 Forikorder wrote:
On June 10 2016 18:14 herMan wrote:
Broke my fucking heart to see there's no chapter up on mangastream.

I wonder how anyone that ain't a Yonkou is going to pose a threat against the straw hat crew. We're supposed to think Sanji's brothers are made of pure badass but I just can't see them winning against Luffy. Only case I see them bring adversity to the protagonists is if Sanji has to defeat them on his own or if Oda pulls the usual "luffy is disabled" cop out.


Doflamingo was stronger then Luffy and wasnt a Yonkou so...


Yes. However, as the story progresses, the protagonists get stronger and thus there have to be stronger opponents to match their new level. Now that Luffy is officially all about taking on Yonkous, there doesn't seem to be many contenders to oppose him in a believable fashion.

Edward Weevil? Maybe. I hope not though, he's a completely new character who feels like a total asspull and looks very dumb to boot.


taking on younkous with massive amount of planning, conspiring and allies hes not walking up to Kaidou and 1v1ing the guy


I don't know what you're trying to say. What I am saying is I don't think Luffy has many opponents equal in fighting ability in the current character pool if you don't count the yonkou and the admirals. Perhaps Kidd or some other top supernova, but no one has really been hyped up especially after Kidd and the others got smashed.


im saying his equals would be yonkou, admirals, some vice admirals, high ranking members of yonkou crew, other supernovas and other notables within the revolutionary army, standing armys of countries, Shichibukai and other pirate crews

Luffy is not anyone close to being a peerless fighter
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 13 2016 13:40 GMT
#25417
"Everyone is Luffy's equal."
-Forikorder
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 13 2016 14:01 GMT
#25418
On June 13 2016 22:40 Sentenal wrote:
"Everyone is Luffy's equal."
-Forikorder

That isn't what he is saying at all. He's merely saying that we have lots of opportunity for opponents still in the new world and Luffy at this point in the story is far from being the strongest fighter. All of which is true.

I know Forik has a bad reputation around here, hell I just argued with him for like 3 pages a couple days ago. But come on at least look at what is being said.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 13 2016 14:08 GMT
#25419
good point raised when it comes to skills, one of oda's bigger success imo

for example, doflamingo's strength was strings, mastered to the limit and if you think about it strings in the hand of a decent pirate would have been weak

let's just think about the fruit of buggy the clown, if it was mastered i'm sure it would be op as hell
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 15:14:58
June 13 2016 15:13 GMT
#25420
But come on at least look at what is being said.


little late for him to start doing that now

mastered to the limit and if you think about it strings in the hand of a decent pirate would have been weak


maybe if his strings followed logic, but his strings could defy gravity and move independantly of him much different then Mr.3 who created wax that followed Logic
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