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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On May 06 2016 01:27 Superbanana wrote: Thats Lola's mother. Remember that Lola gave the SH crew a vivre card to her mother in the grand line? might be her. yup, thats what i think after this chapter. back then we all just assumed that lola's mum = big mama, but nope. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On May 06 2016 05:59 Forikorder wrote: ace giving luffy is a piece of paper is hardly foreshadowing towards a major plot point Usopps lies coming true are just inside jokes Laboon and Brook were NOT foreshadowed, it was mentioned the crew left the grand line, when in reality only the captain left and the rest of the crew were killed off, they were mentioned only as cowards who gave up on laboon and you have to be more specific with fishman island and dragon if you want to actually have a discussion It seems you don't know what foreshadowing means, and you don't know what planning for future events entails. I dunno why I even bothered. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 06 2016 06:18 Sentenal wrote: It seems you don't know what foreshadowing means, and you don't know what planning for future events entails. I dunno why I even bothered. like i said, he gives vague general ideas that could be anything, Laboons crew could have been anyone that paper could have been anything and NEITHER ended up being a major plot point | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
It's not foreshadowing if Dragon shows up in the first issue and is all like, "Hey, Luffy, I'm the leader of the Revolutionarys in the New World, also I'm your dad!" If its not vague or general than its just telling you the thing rather than suggesting or hinting. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 06 2016 08:10 Zambrah wrote: Foreshadowing is generally kind of like that. It's not foreshadowing if Dragon shows up in the first issue and is all like, "Hey, Luffy, I'm the leader of the Revolutionarys in the New World, also I'm your dad!" If its not vague or general than its just telling you the thing rather than suggesting or hinting. but its not hinting though | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
Usops lies are foreshadowing, but of very little importance, none of them really matter to the plot. They also probably weren't foreshadowing when they were written, just things Oda decided would be amusing to reference later on. One piece is great, but dont try to make it something its not! | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Raneth
England527 Posts
There are such things as good an bad interpretations of evidence, and the discussion to work out which is which can be fun and enlightening | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On May 06 2016 06:47 Forikorder wrote: like i said, he gives vague general ideas that could be anything, Laboons crew could have been anyone that paper could have been anything and NEITHER ended up being a major plot point Like I said, you clearly have no idea what foreshadowing is. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 06 2016 10:15 Sentenal wrote: Like I said, you clearly have no idea what foreshadowing is. foreshadowing is highlighting something so that the reader realises its going to be something important without them realising why, its not supposed to be obvious or reveal anything but at the same time should still be specific making a characters parentage vague and then never mentioning that its vague, or pointing out that its vague or drawing attention to that in any way is not foreshadowing if people had asked Sanji about his family and him get nervous/angry/dodge the question THAT would be foreshadowing, instead it is literally never mentioned ever and the closest it ever came to being discussed was when he mentioned he used to live in a different ocean and that was only to explain why he knew the story and noone said/thought/mentioned anything like "its wierd for a normal person to switch between oceans like that" instead everyone acted like it was no big deal if someone had recognized Sanji the first time they met and said something like "you couldnt be related to those guys could you" that would be foreshadowing instead his family randomly pops into existance completely out of nowhere | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On May 06 2016 11:03 Forikorder wrote: foreshadowing is highlighting something so that the reader realises its going to be something important without them realising why, its not supposed to be obvious or reveal anything but at the same time should still be specific making a characters parentage vague and then never mentioning that its vague, or pointing out that its vague or drawing attention to that in any way is not foreshadowing if people had asked Sanji about his family and him get nervous/angry/dodge the question THAT would be foreshadowing, instead it is literally never mentioned ever and the closest it ever came to being discussed was when he mentioned he used to live in a different ocean and that was only to explain why he knew the story and noone said/thought/mentioned anything like "its wierd for a normal person to switch between oceans like that" instead everyone acted like it was no big deal if someone had recognized Sanji the first time they met and said something like "you couldnt be related to those guys could you" that would be foreshadowing instead his family randomly pops into existance completely out of nowhere "If I don't realize its foreshadowing, then its not foreshadowing!" Forikorder thats not how it works. | ||
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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SkrollK
France580 Posts
On May 06 2016 06:03 BurningSera wrote: yup, thats what i think after this chapter. back then we all just assumed that lola's mum = big mama, but nope. Do you even bother read ?  On May 06 2016 04:18 SkrollK wrote: Meh, don't think so. Coz when she gave the vivre card, her crew said that her mama was someone very important and powerfull in the new world (or smthg along this line). So it has to be big mom. Searched for it : http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/489/14 Bottom | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On May 06 2016 10:14 Raneth wrote: Did you just tell fans to stop speculating about story because they don't have a gods eye perspective? :S There are such things as good an bad interpretations of evidence, and the discussion to work out which is which can be fun and enlightening I said to stop speculating about what in the story was planned and what wasn't. Unless you ask Oda, chances are you're horribly wrong. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 06 2016 11:06 Sentenal wrote: "If I don't realize its foreshadowing, then its not foreshadowing!" Forikorder thats not how it works. your complete dismissal of my argument without any actual reason is getting old | ||
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RenSC2
United States1085 Posts
Thus, his manga is open to a lot of different reasoned guesses, and to me that's actually part of the fun of reading One Piece, trying to guess what will happen next. The problem is that the clues are so vague that the guesses are almost always horribly wrong. Still fun to try and probably part of the reason why there is so much One Piece discussion out there. Like, a common theory is that Sanji has two older brothers. If you don't know why, try to figure it out. That one isn't too hard if you have some basic Japanese language skills. Also, for quite awhile, there was a theory that he was actually a prince. The "Only Alive" poster added a lot of fuel to that fire. Instead, it turned out that he was part of a major family in the underground. There were clues that his family was important, but not enough to reason out exactly why. So people came close, but it was very rare for people to actually hit the mark. | ||
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Merany
France890 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18625 Posts
There are many articles which highlight stuff or crew members which had details in his cover pages. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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