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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
May 06 2016 12:29 GMT
#25081
You could easily say Sanji referring to himself as "Prince" way back in Alabaster was foreshadowing.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 06 2016 12:53 GMT
#25082
On May 06 2016 21:29 killa_robot wrote:
You could easily say Sanji referring to himself as "Prince" way back in Alabaster was foreshadowing.

your right, because his family was revealed to be royalty

oh wait, they ARENT
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
May 06 2016 13:10 GMT
#25083
On May 06 2016 21:29 killa_robot wrote:
You could easily say Sanji referring to himself as "Prince" way back in Alabaster was foreshadowing.


Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.



On May 06 2016 04:18 SkrollK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 01:27 Superbanana wrote:
Thats Lola's mother.
Remember that Lola gave the SH crew a vivre card to her mother in the grand line? might be her.



Meh, don't think so. Coz when she gave the vivre card, her crew said that her mama was someone very important and powerfull in the new world (or smthg along this line).

So it has to be big mom.


Being a top lieutenant in Big Mom's organization definitely still qualifies as "very important and powerful." This would also give the Straw Hats a potential ally on the inside who would owe them a favor. I don't know, maybe some kind of favor like helping them escape with Sanji and risking Big Mom's wrath because they had helped save her daughter's life. This is the sort of thing Oda likes to do IMO.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 14:46:39
May 06 2016 14:46 GMT
#25084
Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.


he picked up a phone he stumbled upon by accident and answered "restaurant lecrap" i dont see how thats infiltrating anything, he then stole the log pose by kicking ass and madea prank call to draw out croc

plus he joined Zef when he was like 8 years old and worked as a bus boy for some time before that, when did he have time to have training for stealth op?
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
May 06 2016 17:19 GMT
#25085
On May 06 2016 23:46 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.


he picked up a phone he stumbled upon by accident and answered "restaurant lecrap" i dont see how thats infiltrating anything, he then stole the log pose by kicking ass and madea prank call to draw out croc

plus he joined Zef when he was like 8 years old and worked as a bus boy for some time before that, when did he have time to have training for stealth op?


You don't remember him faking his own death on the phone so that Crocodile would think he was talking to his underlings?
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 06 2016 17:26 GMT
#25086
On May 07 2016 02:19 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 23:46 Forikorder wrote:
Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.


he picked up a phone he stumbled upon by accident and answered "restaurant lecrap" i dont see how thats infiltrating anything, he then stole the log pose by kicking ass and madea prank call to draw out croc

plus he joined Zef when he was like 8 years old and worked as a bus boy for some time before that, when did he have time to have training for stealth op?


You don't remember him faking his own death on the phone so that Crocodile would think he was talking to his underlings?


thats still not infiltrating an organization or anything that would require special training to pull off, it was a smart plan because hes a smart guy his actions at the gates of justice are ten times more impressive
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
May 06 2016 18:36 GMT
#25087
On May 06 2016 22:10 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.

Yeah definitely, I was already discussing all this like 10 years ago with friends.
Even when he was riding the train to Enies Lobby, there were more hints about all of this.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
May 06 2016 19:31 GMT
#25088
On May 07 2016 02:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:19 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On May 06 2016 23:46 Forikorder wrote:
Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.


he picked up a phone he stumbled upon by accident and answered "restaurant lecrap" i dont see how thats infiltrating anything, he then stole the log pose by kicking ass and madea prank call to draw out croc

plus he joined Zef when he was like 8 years old and worked as a bus boy for some time before that, when did he have time to have training for stealth op?


You don't remember him faking his own death on the phone so that Crocodile would think he was talking to his underlings?


thats still not infiltrating an organization or anything that would require special training to pull off, it was a smart plan because hes a smart guy his actions at the gates of justice are ten times more impressive


Infiltrating was perhaps the wrong word, but it still doesn't really fit with the story we have of Sanji as a small hungry kid who grows up to be a chef and dreams of all blue.

Back to the point though, Oda's stories are remarkable cohesive, and every new reveal usually has a substantial amount of evidence in past stories that fit together exactly as if they were made for it. If we assume it was all planned, this would not make him a better planner than many conventional authors who plan whole book series, but it does put him in the top tier of mangaka.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 06 2016 20:16 GMT
#25089
Infiltrating was perhaps the wrong word, but it still doesn't really fit with the story we have of Sanji as a small hungry kid who grows up to be a chef and dreams of all blue.


im not sure why being smart or not has to do with upbringing
1oo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal876 Posts
May 06 2016 20:29 GMT
#25090
I dont know if this was mentioned but this to me is the biggest foreshadowing:

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/485/12
At the top of the game, we play by diferent rules.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 06 2016 21:06 GMT
#25091
On May 07 2016 05:29 1oo wrote:
I dont know if this was mentioned but this to me is the biggest foreshadowing:

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/485/12

how...?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 06 2016 22:57 GMT
#25092
That's not foreshadowing. Oh shit, I basically agreed with forikorder on something? Perhaps? I feel dirty.
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
May 07 2016 13:31 GMT
#25093
On May 06 2016 22:10 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 21:29 killa_robot wrote:
You could easily say Sanji referring to himself as "Prince" way back in Alabaster was foreshadowing.


Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.



Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 04:18 SkrollK wrote:
On May 06 2016 01:27 Superbanana wrote:
Thats Lola's mother.
Remember that Lola gave the SH crew a vivre card to her mother in the grand line? might be her.



Meh, don't think so. Coz when she gave the vivre card, her crew said that her mama was someone very important and powerfull in the new world (or smthg along this line).

So it has to be big mom.


Being a top lieutenant in Big Mom's organization definitely still qualifies as "very important and powerful." This would also give the Straw Hats a potential ally on the inside who would owe them a favor. I don't know, maybe some kind of favor like helping them escape with Sanji and risking Big Mom's wrath because they had helped save her daughter's life. This is the sort of thing Oda likes to do IMO.


Wait Lola's relativ that we saw is said to be one of Big Mom's top leftenant ? Where did you get that information ?
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
May 09 2016 11:18 GMT
#25094
On May 06 2016 19:31 RenSC2 wrote:
I would say that Oda gives very subtle clues that could mean a lot of things. Then later on, we find out what those clues actually mean and how it all fits together. I'm not sure if it's still considered foreshadowing or not. It's at least something similar to foreshadowing, but more vague.

Thus, his manga is open to a lot of different reasoned guesses, and to me that's actually part of the fun of reading One Piece, trying to guess what will happen next. The problem is that the clues are so vague that the guesses are almost always horribly wrong. Still fun to try and probably part of the reason why there is so much One Piece discussion out there.

Like, a common theory is that Sanji has two older brothers. If you don't know why, try to figure it out. That one isn't too hard if you have some basic Japanese language skills.

Also, for quite awhile, there was a theory that he was actually a prince. The "Only Alive" poster added a lot of fuel to that fire. Instead, it turned out that he was part of a major family in the underground. There were clues that his family was important, but not enough to reason out exactly why. So people came close, but it was very rare for people to actually hit the mark.


This perfectly sums up why people are having these discussion all the time, please everyone read this.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
May 09 2016 12:34 GMT
#25095
On May 07 2016 22:31 SkrollK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 22:10 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On May 06 2016 21:29 killa_robot wrote:
You could easily say Sanji referring to himself as "Prince" way back in Alabaster was foreshadowing.


Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.



On May 06 2016 04:18 SkrollK wrote:
On May 06 2016 01:27 Superbanana wrote:
Thats Lola's mother.
Remember that Lola gave the SH crew a vivre card to her mother in the grand line? might be her.



Meh, don't think so. Coz when she gave the vivre card, her crew said that her mama was someone very important and powerfull in the new world (or smthg along this line).

So it has to be big mom.


Being a top lieutenant in Big Mom's organization definitely still qualifies as "very important and powerful." This would also give the Straw Hats a potential ally on the inside who would owe them a favor. I don't know, maybe some kind of favor like helping them escape with Sanji and risking Big Mom's wrath because they had helped save her daughter's life. This is the sort of thing Oda likes to do IMO.


Wait Lola's relativ that we saw is said to be one of Big Mom's top leftenant ? Where did you get that information ?


All I'm saying is it doesn't have to be big mom, try to keep up.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
May 11 2016 11:06 GMT
#25096
On May 09 2016 21:34 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 22:31 SkrollK wrote:
On May 06 2016 22:10 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On May 06 2016 21:29 killa_robot wrote:
You could easily say Sanji referring to himself as "Prince" way back in Alabaster was foreshadowing.


Even the way he infiltrated Crocodile's organization so effortlessly seems foreshadowing that he has had some training in this type of operation before. I mean, it seems a pretty odd skill for a cook to have, but it totally fitting now that we know his complete backstory. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Oda had the backstories of his characters at least roughly sketched out a LONG time ago.



On May 06 2016 04:18 SkrollK wrote:
On May 06 2016 01:27 Superbanana wrote:
Thats Lola's mother.
Remember that Lola gave the SH crew a vivre card to her mother in the grand line? might be her.



Meh, don't think so. Coz when she gave the vivre card, her crew said that her mama was someone very important and powerfull in the new world (or smthg along this line).

So it has to be big mom.


Being a top lieutenant in Big Mom's organization definitely still qualifies as "very important and powerful." This would also give the Straw Hats a potential ally on the inside who would owe them a favor. I don't know, maybe some kind of favor like helping them escape with Sanji and risking Big Mom's wrath because they had helped save her daughter's life. This is the sort of thing Oda likes to do IMO.


Wait Lola's relativ that we saw is said to be one of Big Mom's top leftenant ? Where did you get that information ?


All I'm saying is it doesn't have to be big mom, try to keep up.


Ok so you are Just wishfull thinking.
No needs to be insulting.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 11 2016 21:49 GMT
#25097
i am hoping 826 this week will reveal who exactly is lola's mum but goddamn haitus......
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 22:41:42
May 11 2016 22:40 GMT
#25098
On May 12 2016 06:49 BurningSera wrote:
i am hoping 826 this week will reveal who exactly is lola's mum but goddamn haitus......

next chapter is next week (I'm unsure if you know or not, your sentence is confusing :p)
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WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
May 12 2016 07:48 GMT
#25099
On May 12 2016 07:40 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 06:49 BurningSera wrote:
i am hoping 826 this week will reveal who exactly is lola's mum but goddamn haitus......

next chapter is next week (I'm unsure if you know or not, your sentence is confusing :p)


Damn, somehow I had in my head that we already waited our break :'(
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 08:25:18
May 12 2016 08:24 GMT
#25100
THERE'S NO CHAPTER TODAY?

really?! come on man don't play with my fucking feelings

edit: oh for cryin gout loud, this is so terrible my god

i was looking forward to it for the past week
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