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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 08 2015 17:44 GMT
#21381
Maybe the Black Beard move to steal other people's DF is the awakened move of his DF?

it's kinda confusing but i will wait for more explanations!

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 08 2015 17:52 GMT
#21382
On May 09 2015 02:06 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 22:31 OskO wrote:
Koala and Sabo are worried about Burgues being after Luffy while he is chilling and waiting for the fight to end.
I'm starting to think that he is actually after Doffy instead of Luffy, he'll go in for a killsteal and be all Wiiihahaha!!!

Agreed, I think Burgess most likely wants to kill Doffy and bring his corpse to BB to steal his Fruit.
Either that or he will just try to kill both after the fight only to get stopped by Sabo.


i doubt the fruit is available for a long time though by the time he drags the corpse back it would probably have respawned
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
May 08 2015 18:03 GMT
#21383
On May 09 2015 02:52 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 02:06 Diavlo wrote:
On May 08 2015 22:31 OskO wrote:
Koala and Sabo are worried about Burgues being after Luffy while he is chilling and waiting for the fight to end.
I'm starting to think that he is actually after Doffy instead of Luffy, he'll go in for a killsteal and be all Wiiihahaha!!!

Agreed, I think Burgess most likely wants to kill Doffy and bring his corpse to BB to steal his Fruit.
Either that or he will just try to kill both after the fight only to get stopped by Sabo.


i doubt the fruit is available for a long time though by the time he drags the corpse back it would probably have respawned

He can also just kidnap Doffy. That was my original thought but I think it fits better with OP to have Burgess kill Doffy in a fight instead of kidnapping and executing him later.

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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 08 2015 18:13 GMT
#21384
Also guys, do you think "awakening" is a new thing (kinda like haki back then)? Can other fruit users do it?
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 08 2015 20:03 GMT
#21385
Imagine Blackbeard coming now finishing off Doffy and taking his fruit :O
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 08 2015 20:55 GMT
#21386
On May 09 2015 03:13 ZenithM wrote:
Also guys, do you think "awakening" is a new thing (kinda like haki back then)? Can other fruit users do it?

In the general sense, its not new. We saw it first back in Impel Down, with the Demon Guards, who were Awakened Zoan users. This is just the first time we have seen an Awakened Paramecia, that we know of.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 08 2015 21:55 GMT
#21387
On May 09 2015 03:03 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 02:52 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 02:06 Diavlo wrote:
On May 08 2015 22:31 OskO wrote:
Koala and Sabo are worried about Burgues being after Luffy while he is chilling and waiting for the fight to end.
I'm starting to think that he is actually after Doffy instead of Luffy, he'll go in for a killsteal and be all Wiiihahaha!!!

Agreed, I think Burgess most likely wants to kill Doffy and bring his corpse to BB to steal his Fruit.
Either that or he will just try to kill both after the fight only to get stopped by Sabo.


i doubt the fruit is available for a long time though by the time he drags the corpse back it would probably have respawned

He can also just kidnap Doffy. That was my original thought but I think it fits better with OP to have Burgess kill Doffy in a fight instead of kidnapping and executing him later.



i doubt he has seastone handcuffs with him, without them, he would probably get killed by a semi-dead doffy midway
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 08 2015 22:22 GMT
#21388
i dont see how the string fruit is worth so much risk when weighed against all the other ones, hell most likely just take this opportunity to leave and they want the fruit that badly wait for it to respawn and go after it then, Dofla found the fire fruit easily enough
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
May 08 2015 22:42 GMT
#21389
Isnt the OP OP fruit much more valuable and attainable in this situation than the string fruit?
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 08 2015 22:45 GMT
#21390
On May 09 2015 07:22 Forikorder wrote:
i dont see how the string fruit is worth so much risk when weighed against all the other ones, hell most likely just take this opportunity to leave and they want the fruit that badly wait for it to respawn and go after it then, Dofla found the fire fruit easily enough

Dofla is the king of the underworld tho
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SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
May 08 2015 23:05 GMT
#21391
On May 09 2015 07:42 Raneth wrote:
Isnt the OP OP fruit much more valuable and attainable in this situation than the string fruit?


Yep, IDC BB risking that much just to take on DD DF, which is pretty "bad" (by bad i mean that it's not some logia or ancient zoan or whatever)

I'd really much see Burgess trying to act against Law now that he is really beaten up, and be stopped by Cabbage/Sabo.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 08 2015 23:54 GMT
#21392
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 08 2015 23:58 GMT
#21393
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 00:13:31
May 09 2015 00:13 GMT
#21394
On May 09 2015 08:58 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over

Just doesn't look like it. Or makes sense. Too anticlimactic.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 09 2015 00:23 GMT
#21395
On May 09 2015 05:55 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 03:13 ZenithM wrote:
Also guys, do you think "awakening" is a new thing (kinda like haki back then)? Can other fruit users do it?

In the general sense, its not new. We saw it first back in Impel Down, with the Demon Guards, who were Awakened Zoan users. This is just the first time we have seen an Awakened Paramecia, that we know of.

Oh yeah thank you, didn't remember that. One Piece wikia actually has a paragraph on Awakening.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 09 2015 01:28 GMT
#21396
On May 09 2015 09:13 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 08:58 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over

Just doesn't look like it. Or makes sense. Too anticlimactic.

anticlimactic would have been if Luffy climed to the top of the tower and found someone already beat him

if was plenty climactic
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 01:38:50
May 09 2015 01:38 GMT
#21397
On May 09 2015 10:28 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 09:13 sumsaR wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:58 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over

Just doesn't look like it. Or makes sense. Too anticlimactic.

anticlimactic would have been if Luffy climed to the top of the tower and found someone already beat him

if was plenty climactic

The attack was blocked. Dofla flew into some building. No close up of Dofla afterwards. "Dofla defeated." Yeah, totally climactic. It was worse than Luffy's initial attack that propelled Dofla a long way from the plateu. He's getting up next chapter.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 09 2015 01:44 GMT
#21398
On May 09 2015 10:38 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 10:28 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 09:13 sumsaR wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:58 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over

Just doesn't look like it. Or makes sense. Too anticlimactic.

anticlimactic would have been if Luffy climed to the top of the tower and found someone already beat him

if was plenty climactic

The attack was blocked. Dofla flew into some building. No close up of Dofla afterwards. "Dofla defeated." Yeah, totally climactic. It was worse than Luffy's initial attack that propelled Dofla a long way from the plateu. He's getting up next chapter.

im sorry did you say that a bazooka from luffy that punchs you into a wall is a worse attack then his bog standard punch?
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
May 09 2015 01:51 GMT
#21399
On May 09 2015 10:44 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 10:38 sumsaR wrote:
On May 09 2015 10:28 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 09:13 sumsaR wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:58 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over

Just doesn't look like it. Or makes sense. Too anticlimactic.

anticlimactic would have been if Luffy climed to the top of the tower and found someone already beat him

if was plenty climactic

The attack was blocked. Dofla flew into some building. No close up of Dofla afterwards. "Dofla defeated." Yeah, totally climactic. It was worse than Luffy's initial attack that propelled Dofla a long way from the plateu. He's getting up next chapter.

im sorry did you say that a bazooka from luffy that punchs you into a wall is a worse attack then his bog standard punch?

No. I'm refering to the severity/badassness of the scene/attack, not how much damage it does. You don't finish the fight with some blow that's not even confirmed to do enough damage to take someone down. The lack of a defeated Dofla is enough evidence to support my claim.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 09 2015 02:09 GMT
#21400
On May 09 2015 10:51 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 10:44 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 10:38 sumsaR wrote:
On May 09 2015 10:28 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 09:13 sumsaR wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:58 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over

Just doesn't look like it. Or makes sense. Too anticlimactic.

anticlimactic would have been if Luffy climed to the top of the tower and found someone already beat him

if was plenty climactic

The attack was blocked. Dofla flew into some building. No close up of Dofla afterwards. "Dofla defeated." Yeah, totally climactic. It was worse than Luffy's initial attack that propelled Dofla a long way from the plateu. He's getting up next chapter.

im sorry did you say that a bazooka from luffy that punchs you into a wall is a worse attack then his bog standard punch?

No. I'm refering to the severity/badassness of the scene/attack, not how much damage it does. You don't finish the fight with some blow that's not even confirmed to do enough damage to take someone down. The lack of a defeated Dofla is enough evidence to support my claim.


well he certainly looks defeated to me
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