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On April 03 2015 15:41 Sharkey wrote:If Trebol isn't a logia (which looks likely based on last chapter) how would you explain him surviving his head getting chopped off? I am not trying to argue here I just trying to reconcile these two bits of information. Please help me make sense of this..  Chapter 741, page 12, lower right panel + Show Spoiler +
Also, how can you explain him becoming a puddle? Seems like he has to be some kind of logia. Maybe not a "mere" logia, whatever that means, but still a logia. Mucus isn't really an "element" so maybe there's a special kind of logia for other "liquids"? I'm quite interested to see how Oda explains this (probably in an SBS sometime).
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I suspect Trebol is Logia with skinny body + A layer of mucus to confuse and defend against those with Haki that can hit his body.
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My ridiculous take on Trebol is that Trebol and his coat have the same fruit as part of a vegapunk project. He just was caught off guard when he was hit by law.
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On April 03 2015 15:41 Sharkey wrote:If Trebol isn't a logia (which looks likely based on last chapter) how would you explain him surviving his head getting chopped off? I am not trying to argue here I just trying to reconcile these two bits of information. Please help me make sense of this.. Chapter 741, page 12, lower right panel + Show Spoiler +
he could have actually ducked and the head that got choppped off was just part of his mucus robe
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My take on the whole thing is that most of flamingo's crew are older fruit users so they're all really good at using their powers. More-so than most other people in the series. Most of the fruit users could manipulate mountain levels of stuff . Rupture, stone, flag and the hobby fruits were all on massive scales that we haven't seen before. I think he just stock-piles mucus and keeps it around him but it isn't part of his actual body.
IE if smoker was in a burning building you couldn't punch the smoke from the fire and hurt smoker, there would be a difference between the real smoke and smoker himself. But smoker would still be able to control the smoke. Some how he kept real mucus around him to obscure his body.
In the future i think people will hide their powers better or at least lie more. It makes alot of sense to not have the public have a full grasp on what you can/cant do.
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My theory on Trebol is simple, he is made of mucus, mucus can separate and reattach. Much like how Luffy's body can handle gear second because he is made of rubber and how DD can sew himself back together. He's not a logia but he is still made entirely of mucus so without a haki cut he can separate and reattach himself.
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Luffy is made of rubber, but he is not rubber logia he is a rubber human. If you cut Luffy in half he would die. Necro the way you described Trebol makes him seem exactly like a Logia user rather than a Paramecia.
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On April 04 2015 03:33 BlackMagister wrote:
Luffy is made of rubber, but he is not rubber logia he is a rubber human. If you cut Luffy in half he would die. Necro the way you described Trebol makes him seem exactly like a Logia user rather than a Paramecia.
I think you are missing the point that he is trying to make. Rubber naturally doesnt put itself together, if you take a piece of rubber and you split it in two now its two pieces of rubber, hence why luffy cant put himself back. Mucus however is just mucus so if you split it you can put it back together and basically have one mucus again.
While this would be logiaishhhh it could be an exception like Blackbeard fruit that is technically a logia but cant turn into darkness and let stuff pass through him.
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alrite bois we got trebol figured out it seems
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I think I mentioned that Trevor is an upgraded version of candle man mr3, remember how mr3 wore his wax armor to fight luffy crew? Is the same kind of defence mechanism from there
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That would still make him seem like a Logia if he were made of mucus, a liquidy material that can reform. Mr 3 never became wax otherwise he probably would be a Logia like Caribou. Whatever state of matter the Logia user is, the reformation ability is unique to Logia as far as we know (excluding BB). If anything it would make him seem like Trebol just added a bunch of his element that is not him to hide the part that is him. Though Logia when they turn into their element need to be connected to their element to directly control it which makes them vulnerable to haki. If it's shot out as a projectile, like a fire fist, then destroying the projectile doesn't harm the user. So Luffy using haki should have harmed Trebol whatever fruit type he was.
Trebol being mucus, controlling mucus and at the same time not mucus just seems too contradictory to be Logia or even Paramecia.
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Trebol is not a logia for sure (that is what revealed in the latest chapter), just like mr3 controlling (shape them etc) wax and trebol controls mucus, the only difference is that wax is solid after mr3 secreted/released it from his body but trebol's mucus is sticky and comes with a secondary effect as being flammable.
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I don't think there's conclusive evidence either way right now. How do you explain Usopp slicing his head/neck off if he's not a logia?
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On April 04 2015 06:48 Warfie wrote:
I don't think there's conclusive evidence either way right now. How do you explain Usopp slicing his head/neck off if he's not a logia?
Jump and duck.
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On April 04 2015 06:53 TMG26 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2015 06:48 Warfie wrote:
I don't think there's conclusive evidence either way right now. How do you explain Usopp slicing his head/neck off if he's not a logia? Jump and duck.
so ur saying of usopp was as good as zoro and kept cutting he'd get him?
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Well yes it's definitely possible. It does mean he has to be able to copy all/parts of his body as mucus clones though, because there's definitely a head/head like object being detached
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Its possible that his fruit is like Buggy's, who we know can get his head cut off, and is not a logia. Or like that marine who can split up into balls.
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yeah it seems like its a paramecia fruit like buggy and other characters who have similar abilities involving manipulating their bodies. It's very likely he has the ability to create a copy of himself using his mucus. For example pica who can manipulate the stone to basically become a giant copy of himself.
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Based off the evidence I think Trebol is a Logia, just that he also keeps mucus armor around him in order to combat Haki users. Hiding his body is a pretty smart tactic against people that actually need to hit the "main you" to do damage. Also, if Trebol wasn't a logia then he wouldn't be able to control his mucus as an extension of himself. Unlike Mr. 3's wax, his mucus is alive and moves around, meaning that it's an extension of Trebol. Not him per say, but an extension of him.
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On April 04 2015 08:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Based off the evidence I think Trebol is a Logia, just that he also keeps mucus armor around him in order to combat Haki users. Hiding his body is a pretty smart tactic against people that actually need to hit the "main you" to do damage. Also, if Trebol wasn't a logia then he wouldn't be able to control his mucus as an extension of himself. Unlike Mr. 3's wax, his mucus is alive and moves around, meaning that it's an extension of Trebol. Not him per say, but an extension of him.
Buggy can control his parts as an extension of himself.
Also, I thought something seemed weird about Trebol being a "logia" over a year ago:
On March 13 2014 08:56 Sentenal wrote:
A "Sticky" Logia seems weird to me. Logia almost always control some sort of element. You know, things like Ice, Fire, Magma, Light, Mud, Sand, they are all things. "Sticky" isn't really a thing like those. I guess the only way I can imagine him being a Logia is if hes actually made out of snot, which would make Trebol much more disgusting than he already is lol.
I should have trusted my gut and insisted that "sticky" isn't a Logia power
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