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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
December 12 2012 16:23 GMT
#6021
Bwahaha that was enjoyable!
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
December 12 2012 16:24 GMT
#6022
On December 13 2012 01:08 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Wait, then Unohana > CC? Just had to get it out there


Probably yes, in raw strength to say 1-hit a dummy or a building. Overall, probably not. IMO she should have been chosen for the new CC of SS. I think she's more rounded up than Shunichi in all shinigami skills. Demon Arts, healing, power, maybe not speed, intelligence she's overall better.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 12 2012 16:28 GMT
#6023
On December 12 2012 19:38 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Lol looks like that kuwabara haired guy from 0 division doesn't really know about unohana being kenpachi. since he called her retsu, which is actually after she stepped down from being violent


He might. He called her "Retsu" while criticizing her medical skills. It could've been sarcastically reminding her that she's really not a healer.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 12 2012 17:34 GMT
#6024
Kubo's favorite plot mechanic, deus ex machina, erry chapter. I fucking swear.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 12 2012 17:52 GMT
#6025
On December 13 2012 01:28 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 19:38 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Lol looks like that kuwabara haired guy from 0 division doesn't really know about unohana being kenpachi. since he called her retsu, which is actually after she stepped down from being violent


He might. He called her "Retsu" while criticizing her medical skills. It could've been sarcastically reminding her that she's really not a healer.


I didn't see the raw, but mangastream's translation has "Retsu" in quotes, which seem to suggest that she changed her given name. It's extremely likely that her given name used to be Yachiru.
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RBKeys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
December 12 2012 17:53 GMT
#6026
I can't say I was particularly impressed by this chapter . . . I mean, I definitely like the way things have been going in this arc (with the quincies and the shakeup in SS), but overall I found this one to be kind of slow. Sure it has a bit of a twist at the end there . . . aside from that not much else happened. The first half of the chapter was Ichigo getting out of a hot spring . . . not much else.
Thanks for the break :D
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 18:22:45
December 12 2012 18:05 GMT
#6027
On December 13 2012 02:53 RBKeys wrote:
I can't say I was particularly impressed by this chapter . . . I mean, I definitely like the way things have been going in this arc (with the quincies and the shakeup in SS), but overall I found this one to be kind of slow. Sure it has a bit of a twist at the end there . . . aside from that not much else happened. The first half of the chapter was Ichigo getting out of a hot spring . . . not much else.


If you think about it, there are at least 5 Captains whose bankais are not revealed yet (Shunsui, Urahana, Rose, Shinji, and Ukitake), two (?) currently living retired captains (Yoruichi, Love), as well as at least two people I can think of who could probably get bankais (Kenpachi and Rukia). Going by the previous pace of the manga (ie. before Kudo was forced to end in one last arc), he could have just revealed one extra bankai per arc and slowroll the series for another 10 years.
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DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
December 12 2012 18:23 GMT
#6028
On December 13 2012 03:05 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 02:53 RBKeys wrote:
I can't say I was particularly impressed by this chapter . . . I mean, I definitely like the way things have been going in this arc (with the quincies and the shakeup in SS), but overall I found this one to be kind of slow. Sure it has a bit of a twist at the end there . . . aside from that not much else happened. The first half of the chapter was Ichigo getting out of a hot spring . . . not much else.


If you think about it, there are at least 5 Captains whose bankais are not revealed yet (Shunsui, Urahana, Rose, Shinji, and Ukitake), as well as at least two people I can think of who could probably get bankais (Kenpachi and Rukia). Going by the previous pace of the manga (ie. before Kudo was forced to end in one last arc), he could have just revealed one extra bankai per arc and slowroll the series for another 10 years.

and Urahara, Yoruichi, all Royal Guards, Ichigo's dad, all vice-captains (including visards), Aizen, Ginjo, etc

Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 18:33:44
December 12 2012 18:33 GMT
#6029
On December 13 2012 03:23 DrGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 03:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 13 2012 02:53 RBKeys wrote:
I can't say I was particularly impressed by this chapter . . . I mean, I definitely like the way things have been going in this arc (with the quincies and the shakeup in SS), but overall I found this one to be kind of slow. Sure it has a bit of a twist at the end there . . . aside from that not much else happened. The first half of the chapter was Ichigo getting out of a hot spring . . . not much else.


If you think about it, there are at least 5 Captains whose bankais are not revealed yet (Shunsui, Urahana, Rose, Shinji, and Ukitake), as well as at least two people I can think of who could probably get bankais (Kenpachi and Rukia). Going by the previous pace of the manga (ie. before Kudo was forced to end in one last arc), he could have just revealed one extra bankai per arc and slowroll the series for another 10 years.

and Urahara, Yoruichi, all Royal Guards, Ichigo's dad, all vice-captains (including visards), Aizen, Ginjo, etc



So yeah. He could have slowrolled the series for another decade. I am not sure if vice-captains usually have bankai though, but even if you exclude them there are plenty of material left lol.
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GloPikkle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States197 Posts
December 12 2012 18:33 GMT
#6030
On December 13 2012 03:05 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 02:53 RBKeys wrote:
I can't say I was particularly impressed by this chapter . . . I mean, I definitely like the way things have been going in this arc (with the quincies and the shakeup in SS), but overall I found this one to be kind of slow. Sure it has a bit of a twist at the end there . . . aside from that not much else happened. The first half of the chapter was Ichigo getting out of a hot spring . . . not much else.


If you think about it, there are at least 5 Captains whose bankais are not revealed yet (Shunsui, Urahana, Rose, Shinji, and Ukitake), two (?) currently living retired captains (Yoruichi, Love), as well as at least two people I can think of who could probably get bankais (Kenpachi and Rukia). Going by the previous pace of the manga (ie. before Kudo was forced to end in one last arc), he could have just revealed one extra bankai per arc and slowroll the series for another 10 years.


Shinji's is the Upside Down World where his sword gets a loop at the end.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 12 2012 18:34 GMT
#6031
On December 13 2012 03:33 GloPikkle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 03:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 13 2012 02:53 RBKeys wrote:
I can't say I was particularly impressed by this chapter . . . I mean, I definitely like the way things have been going in this arc (with the quincies and the shakeup in SS), but overall I found this one to be kind of slow. Sure it has a bit of a twist at the end there . . . aside from that not much else happened. The first half of the chapter was Ichigo getting out of a hot spring . . . not much else.


If you think about it, there are at least 5 Captains whose bankais are not revealed yet (Shunsui, Urahana, Rose, Shinji, and Ukitake), two (?) currently living retired captains (Yoruichi, Love), as well as at least two people I can think of who could probably get bankais (Kenpachi and Rukia). Going by the previous pace of the manga (ie. before Kudo was forced to end in one last arc), he could have just revealed one extra bankai per arc and slowroll the series for another 10 years.


Shinji's is the Upside Down World where his sword gets a loop at the end.


I don't think that's his bankai.
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
December 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#6032
On December 13 2012 03:33 GloPikkle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 03:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 13 2012 02:53 RBKeys wrote:
I can't say I was particularly impressed by this chapter . . . I mean, I definitely like the way things have been going in this arc (with the quincies and the shakeup in SS), but overall I found this one to be kind of slow. Sure it has a bit of a twist at the end there . . . aside from that not much else happened. The first half of the chapter was Ichigo getting out of a hot spring . . . not much else.


If you think about it, there are at least 5 Captains whose bankais are not revealed yet (Shunsui, Urahana, Rose, Shinji, and Ukitake), two (?) currently living retired captains (Yoruichi, Love), as well as at least two people I can think of who could probably get bankais (Kenpachi and Rukia). Going by the previous pace of the manga (ie. before Kudo was forced to end in one last arc), he could have just revealed one extra bankai per arc and slowroll the series for another 10 years.


Shinji's is the Upside Down World where his sword gets a loop at the end.

Yeah... That's his Shikai homie.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18712 Posts
December 12 2012 19:31 GMT
#6033
On December 13 2012 00:04 Milkis wrote:
I really just think that this guy is just not a good story teller.

I think the plot points in Bleach is coming around nicely, but Kubo is just really bad at putting them together. If the art of story is like playing a piece of music, this guy just plays as loud as he can all the time (power ups) or as soft as he can all the time (dialogues) and hopes for the best. The notes are there, but the interpretation just needs a bit of work. He's just really bad at putting together tension. Why else would people think it should have ended after the Aizen arc, when he had another full arc towards it? He didn't reveal enough information in the past about certain key factors that makes you think there are bigger factors in play and so everything just "comes out of nowhere" and makes you go "huh?".

Hopefully whatever Kubo works on next will be much better because I'm kind of enjoying how things are being knitted together and making me more convinced it isn't just "making shit up as you go" a la Naruto, but a lot of it was planned from the start, but man, that just means he's a terrible story teller.


yeah Kubo is good at inventing, but not good at combining/connecting
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 19:38:57
December 12 2012 19:38 GMT
#6034
So is the person to his left in the picture?

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[image loading]
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1094 Posts
December 12 2012 19:42 GMT
#6035
On December 13 2012 00:04 Milkis wrote:
I really just think that this guy is just not a good story teller.
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I think the plot points in Bleach is coming around nicely, but Kubo is just really bad at putting them together. If the art of story is like playing a piece of music, this guy just plays as loud as he can all the time (power ups) or as soft as he can all the time (dialogues) and hopes for the best. The notes are there, but the interpretation just needs a bit of work. He's just really bad at putting together tension. Why else would people think it should have ended after the Aizen arc, when he had another full arc towards it? He didn't reveal enough information in the past about certain key factors that makes you think there are bigger factors in play and so everything just "comes out of nowhere" and makes you go "huh?".

Hopefully whatever Kubo works on next will be much better because I'm kind of enjoying how things are being knitted together and making me more convinced it isn't just "making shit up as you go" a la Naruto, but a lot of it was planned from the start, but man, that just means he's a terrible story teller.

Agreed, sort of. I think he came up with a bunch of cool character drawings and an interesting plot overall (with some exceptions). That's a big part of storytelling and he's pretty good at it.

However, you're absolutely right that his execution of the story is painfully bad at times. No foreshadowing. No hints that there's something more. Nothing. We just have these characters that have no development until suddenly Kubo needs to use them and then there's this storyline behind them. It makes me question at what point in the story did Kubo decide that Unohana was the first Kenpachi and her name was Yachiru. Was it just tacked on out of convenience or was it something planned from the beginning? It's actually hard to tell. When you leave the slate completely clean on each character and don't develop them at all, it gives you the magical ability to suddenly put any back story you want into that character.
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
December 12 2012 20:04 GMT
#6036
On December 13 2012 04:38 igotmyown wrote:
So is the person to his left in the picture?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I wanna know who EVERYONE is on that picture, I guess we will find out.

My guess is that one of them is Unohana.
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-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 12 2012 20:08 GMT
#6037
Say what you want about asspulls but this one was not clearly hinted at but there were a ton of clues that something was up with unohana and I really like this twist, especially the "yachiru" part. A good chapter, maybe bleach wont end in a complete trainwreck
benston
Profile Joined November 2012
United States39 Posts
December 12 2012 20:38 GMT
#6038
holy fuck what the fuck did i just read
Gantz>One Piece>Tower of God>Naruto>Bleach
Miami Metro
Profile Joined December 2012
70 Posts
December 12 2012 20:45 GMT
#6039
Can someone explain to me what exactly is the significance of her name being 'Yachiru'? Secondly, is the Captain Commander asking for permission to train Unohana or Zaraki? Thirdly, what the fuck are the Quincy doing now are they just fucking off to have a sleep or something? Thanks.
benston
Profile Joined November 2012
United States39 Posts
December 12 2012 20:53 GMT
#6040
On December 13 2012 05:45 Miami Metro wrote:
Can someone explain to me what exactly is the significance of her name being 'Yachiru'? Secondly, is the Captain Commander asking for permission to train Unohana or Zaraki? Thirdly, what the fuck are the Quincy doing now are they just fucking off to have a sleep or something? Thanks.


kenpachi apparently named that little girl thats always with him after someone he admired most. which is is Yachiru come on man. hes asking permission to train zaraki. they are doing the classic villain wait for the good guys to power up before fighting them again.
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