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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:48 jodogohoo wrote: what i want to see is someone remake bleach. using the characters and etc and some of the plot. and also explaining things like ichigo's dad and etc... except maybe not making aizen godmode and other mistakes that have just completely messed up the series.... like a reboot that makes use of all the awesome stuff we would like to see answered and etc... making use of the rich universe and etc... but without the messed up shit =_= it would be complete shit, of someones good enough to do that they should just make there own series the last thing i want to see is someone bastardize the series and tear apart the characters to "improve" it it wouldnt be bleach, it would be a cheap knock off | ||
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Thenerf
United States258 Posts
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 03 2012 09:09 Forikorder wrote: it would be complete shit, of someones good enough to do that they should just make there own series the last thing i want to see is someone bastardize the series and tear apart the characters to "improve" it it wouldnt be bleach, it would be a cheap knock off A cheap knock-off? Bleach: A manga about a young boy/man set in the contemporary world who wields a massive sword and fights creatures from the underworld. His strength primarily comes from training hard and getting really really angry in fights. Also a can-do attitude. Berserk: A manga about a young boy/man set in the medieval world who wields a massive sword and fights creatures from the underworld. His strength primarily comes from training hard and getting really really angry in fights. Also, a can-do attitude. Bleach First Run: August, 2001 Berserk First Run: December, 1990. | ||
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Heh_
Singapore2712 Posts
On August 03 2012 09:24 StorkHwaiting wrote: A cheap knock-off? Bleach: A manga about a young boy/man set in the contemporary world who wields a massive sword and fights creatures from the underworld. His strength primarily comes from training hard and getting really really angry in fights. Also a can-do attitude. Berserk: A manga about a young boy/man set in the medieval world who wields a massive sword and fights creatures from the underworld. His strength primarily comes from training hard and getting really really angry in fights. Also, a can-do attitude. Bleach First Run: August, 2001 Berserk First Run: December, 1990. You could say the same for a ton of mangas. One Piece, Naruto, HxH... and many more all fall under this pattern. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 03 2012 09:24 StorkHwaiting wrote: A cheap knock-off? Bleach: A manga about a young boy/man set in the contemporary world who wields a massive sword and fights creatures from the underworld. His strength primarily comes from training hard and getting really really angry in fights. Also a can-do attitude. Berserk: A manga about a young boy/man set in the medieval world who wields a massive sword and fights creatures from the underworld. His strength primarily comes from training hard and getting really really angry in fights. Also, a can-do attitude. Bleach First Run: August, 2001 Berserk First Run: December, 1990. wow what a coincidence that Bleach and beserk both use such a stereotypical main character and Hollows arent from the underworld, thats the main point about hollows if your seriously trying to say that Bleach ripped off Beserk then i dont even know how to respond and since when does Ichigo train hard at all? the only time he trained was a couple days to get a crash course in Bankai | ||
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javy_
United States1677 Posts
On August 03 2012 09:24 StorkHwaiting wrote: A cheap knock-off? Bleach: A manga about a young boy/man set in the contemporary world who wields a massive sword and fights creatures from the underworld. His strength primarily comes from training hard and getting really really angry in fights. Also a can-do attitude. Berserk: A manga about a young boy/man set in the medieval world who wields a massive sword and fights creatures from the underworld. His strength primarily comes from training hard and getting really really angry in fights. Also, a can-do attitude. Bleach First Run: August, 2001 Berserk First Run: December, 1990. Bleach is a Yu Yu Hakusho knockoff, not Berserk. However, I noticed that Bleach went it's own direction after the Bount arc. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1102 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:48 jodogohoo wrote: what i want to see is someone remake bleach. using the characters and etc and some of the plot. and also explaining things like ichigo's dad and etc... except maybe not making aizen godmode and other mistakes that have just completely messed up the series.... like a reboot that makes use of all the awesome stuff we would like to see answered and etc... making use of the rich universe and etc... but without the messed up shit =_= Ever seen the anime filler arcs? Same characters and some of the plot. Not too many people are raving about how good those are. I understand that they're limited in their ability to advance a plot, but the filler arcs were almost all pretty bad. I will admit that Kubo is good at character creation (not so good at character development), but I think anyone that could write a really solid storyline could also come up with his own universe and characters. As an aside, is it possible that the sword pointing at Urahara is from Tsukishima (most recent substitute shinigami arc, second in command behind Ginjo)? He could possible cut the opponent in such a way that he'd forget how to control his powers and blow up from within. edit: There are a lot of series with similar main characters, plots, and themes. Mangaka learn from their predecessors and incorporate a lot of prior successful works into their own. It's a very normal thing. That's why some of you will see Berserk, some will see Yu Yu Hakusho, etc. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 03 2012 09:33 javy925 wrote: Bleach is a Yu Yu Hakusho knockoff, not Berserk. However, I noticed that Bleach went it's own direction after the Bount arc. i dont really see the connection TBH maybe i just havent read hakusho recently enough id say bleach is pretty orginal, sure you can draw similarities between it and other mangas, but you can do that with any manga aside from insanely old ones theres no such thing as 100% original since theres so much stuff done As an aside, is it possible that the sword pointing at Urahara is from Tsukishima (most recent substitute shinigami arc, second in command behind Ginjo)? He could possible cut the opponent in such a way that he'd forget how to control his powers and blow up from within. if its Tsukishima that would probably be enough to make me give up this manga, it makes no sense hes still alive and it makes no sense for him to be there (both in the HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET THERE and the WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE GO THERE sense) its 100% the Vizards that stayed on the world of the living for some reason maybe teaming up with some of the remaining Arrancars (Grimmjow) | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:02 StorkHwaiting wrote: I'm just illustrating the point that Bleach borrows plenty from the genre it operates in. Everything's a knock-off of everything else, so to say someone else couldn't do Bleach better is not very logical imo. they might be able to do "bleach" better but then it wouldnt be "bleach", it would be a manga with Characters that look like some of the characters from "bleach" but act and talk completely different and do different things for different reasons | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18772 Posts
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:04 Forikorder wrote: they might be able to do "bleach" better but then it wouldnt be "bleach", it would be a manga with Characters that look like some of the characters from "bleach" but act and talk completely different and do different things for different reasons You're arguing semantics. Bottom line, odds are pretty good someone could do Bleach better than Kubo. About Fantasy: You really gotta read more fantasy if you think everything involves elves, orcs, dwarves, and wizards. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:21 StorkHwaiting wrote: You're arguing semantics. Bottom line, odds are pretty good someone could do Bleach better than Kubo. About Fantasy: You really gotta read more fantasy if you think everything involves elves, orcs, dwarves, and wizards. of course im arguing semantics, thats what the whole argument is about saying someone could do "bleach" better is like finding a manga very similar to bleach, changing the title and saying they did bleach better | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:28 Forikorder wrote: of course im arguing semantics, thats what the whole argument is about saying someone could do "bleach" better is like finding a manga very similar to bleach, changing the title and saying they did bleach better That's not true. Comic books do relaunches of titles ALL the time. Look how many times Batman has been redone. And some relaunches have been a hell of a lot better than others. Just because the japanese manga industry doesn't operate in the same way doesn't mean it's outside the realm of possibility. This is art we're talking about. It's hard to pin down an objective better or best, but it's definitely doable to reimagine characters and settings within a single universe. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:30 StorkHwaiting wrote: That's not true. Comic books do relaunches of titles ALL the time. Look how many times Batman has been redone. And some relaunches have been a hell of a lot better than others. Just because the japanese manga industry doesn't operate in the same way doesn't mean it's outside the realm of possibility. This is art we're talking about. It's hard to pin down an objective better or best, but it's definitely doable to reimagine characters and settings within a single universe. the batmans are exactly the sort of thing im talking about its not the exact same story time after time after time with small differences, there entirely new story that are similar to the orginal like the new spiderman movie compared to the first 3 movies there similar but there different storys | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
The difference between Batman with Val Kilmer and Batman with Christian Bale is what you call an improvement. Difference between Batman and Green Lantern is what you call a different story. Your argument doesn't make any sense. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:37 StorkHwaiting wrote: I don't get what you're trying to say. Ofc if it's a better version it's going to be "different story." That's the entire point. The current story sucks. But just because it's a different riff on Batman doesn't make it not Batman anymore. The difference between Batman with Val Kilmer and Batman with Christian Bale is what you call an improvement. Difference between Batman and Green Lantern is what you call a different story. Your argument doesn't make any sense. ya so lets just find a manga similar to Bleach, change the title to bleach, change the names of some of the characters and call it a day bam i jsut fixed bleach | ||
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RajKuna
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