Movie Discussion! - Page 359

I don't think they followed the story perfectly. I heard Ice Cube never visited Easy E in the hospital even though he said his hotel was across the street.

There was a lot of heroism and hatred towards the police. I don't think all police officers were or are bad. There might be bad ones but probably not all of them. All the characters except Jerry and the guy from Ice Cube's studio were portrayed as heroes who fought the good fight by preaching reality.
I think they removed a scene where Jerry tried to talk Easy E out of taking an assault rifle out in a parking lot to make him seem more like a greedy asshole.

Bitch doesn't deserve Gabriel. Bastard Soldier's bride should've just sent him a letter. Old man needs to get out more and court ladies at a younger age so he doesn't end up in jail for this. She's so irrational and stupid. Gabe should've left her several times. She can't be tamed by him? What the fuck does that mean? English isn't made for men to express their feelings and not women. Plays pranks on old men. Marries the first "bad guy" she meets. Never really makes a choice, one of her options just ends up dying and the other goes to jail. She friendzones Gabe so hard, using him as a shoulder to cry on when her husband loves another more, and uses her money to gamble and pay for his wife.

Like you know Gabriel is good for you, he's just not as exciting and you have other suitors.

She literally told Gabe to leave because he expressed a perfectly good opinion of how she was harming others. Then called him back because she needed him to save the farm.

really amazing action sequences. no coherent plot. no character development leading me to have no empathy for anyone. pointless grotesque scenes.

Everdene is as irrational as any of her male counterparts. Gabriel's advances came at the wrong place and time which *gasp* is how a lot of real potential relationships flame out. She had zero relationship experience and was wooed by the exciting/lying option. Again, if you treat her by the same standard you'd treat male characters there's hardly anything irrational or surprising about this. The "right" guy made his move at the wrong time. That's how shit goes, especially when your initial reasoning is as shitty as Gabriel's was.

Kicking Gabriel out was the incorrect decision, but again, her point was that he wouldn't have been so comfortable expressing that opinion if she were a man. He was comfortable talking back to her, even though she was significantly more powerful than him. She's the kingpin of that operation. There's literally thousands of examples in books and film where a male boss makes that decision, in order to solidify their position of power. When Coach Taylor does that shit, throw in an angry speech and Explosions in the Sky and we think it's the right decision.

Honestly, you're only speaking from Gabriel's position and failing to realize 1) he has his own destructive tendencies and 2) 20-something year old men and women don't have a great grasp on the things that are most important to them, and you probably shouldn't fault her for that when she actually figures it out a lot sooner than most people do. It's like faulting an 18 year old girl for not acting like a 30 year old woman (keep in mind the age difference is probably approaching 10 years, if not more). Simply ridiculous.

She looks 30 and him 40. Imdb says the actress, Carey Mulligan, is 30. If they wanted to portray her as someone in her teens they should have picked someone in her teens.

Perhaps some of the feminism is lost on us today considering the advances society has made towards gender equality. But if I saw a male talking back to his superior, after his superior explicitly asked for it, I don't think I'd cheer the male superior for then firing him.

It's only later revealed that Gabriel was Everdene's childhood sweetheart. Like they'd known each other for a while when he first proposed. In the movie it looked like a premature proposal.

Bathsheba is 20 at the beginning of the novel, and I don't believe they knew each other before the very beginning. Where did you pick up on that in the film? She had just moved into that home when he proposes, basically based on her looks and some brief interactions.