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govie
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On January 22 2015 19:50 govie wrote: Interstellar, imdb rates it as a 8,9 which imo is way to high, If you dont know alot about quantummechanics/space-time stuff the plot is hard to follow (even when you saw all of brain cox' documentaries). I am still wondering if i understood everything correctly, thats why i rate it only a 7, because i did enjoy watching it. It really isn't hard to follow if you don't know anything about physics. I don't have a clue about all that stuff but the plot itself wasn't about science or quantum mechanics, it was about a man trying to find a way back home and to his daughter. Plus they even did the pencil through a paper example, and they usually did the thing that Futurama joked about (where Leela gives a really long explanation about how to save the ship, then fry simplifies it to everyman terms). The great thing about Nolan movies is you get swept up in the moment, yet all the underlying explanations for what's happening isn't drowning you, because at its heart it's a really simple character story, at least that's my opinion. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
Too drawn out and kinda lacking substance. Drama in it isn't the best either. Only if you have time and nothing better to do. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9651 Posts
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KwarK
United States42696 Posts
On January 23 2015 08:26 govie wrote: Their childern need to eat and dont tell me there is allways a solution because for alot of people the solution available was the army. While it's probably okay to steal a loaf of bread to feed your children it's not necessarily just as okay to kill a bunch of Iraqis to feed your children. Soldiers volunteer to be killers who have their targets picked for them ultimately by a system that is demonstrably amoral. There is nothing virtuous in that. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Reese goes on a journey with her spoon hiking the pacific central trail or PCT. You learn more about why she did it as the movie progresses. It's slow. Certainly somewhat interesting, but not for everyone. + Show Spoiler + It also ends kind of abruptly. But it shows how people can make huge mistakes in their lives really quickly. It tries to say that every decision leads you closer to where you are today. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 23 2015 02:39 govie wrote: Dude, you should show some respect for the soldiers in the field. They dont decide where they go and what the mission is gonna be about. Alot of them get PSTD or other mental shit afterwards, we cant even imagene what these hero's can face in the field. These guys go no matter what, because the politicians you chose decided they should. These guys are hero's and get underpaid for risking their freaking lives so you can peacefully make them look like freaking shit on the internet. If you want to make a fool out of something or somebody go after your mentally retarded political system, but not the people that do the actual dirty work! You shouldn't post stuff like that on TL. In general this is a very anti american website and any movie that promotes the US or US troops is looked down upon with ignorant comments such as the ones in the last page that I saw. I loved the movie, was good and whether you agree or not about the war, what the soldiers go through is insane. By choice or not, they do more in their lives and risk more than 99.9% of TL. | ||
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
Eastwood has made a masterpiece here... the only two of his I can recall that are close to being this good are Million Dollar Baby and maybe Unforgiven. This one is going to clean up at the box office and it deserves every penny. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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riotjune
United States3393 Posts
Can you curb that diarrhea a bit, army hospitals specialize in burn treatment and not fecal incontinence. Though if you want to go at it like a hippopotamus it's well within your right I guess. Back on topic, I'm going to see American Sniper and hope it doesn't play like a recruitment ad. Edit: Well that was depressing, and it doesn't glorify war. War sucks and it's physically and mentally taxing, if that wasn't obvious. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 23 2015 15:14 riotjune wrote: Soldiers won't hesitate to protect civilians if the country were ever to be invaded, get natural disastered, or whatever, so I don't get why some civilians feel the need to shit on them like they have. They also do other stuff besides KILLLINNG and posturing nukes, such as humanitarian rescue and relief efforts like with the USNS Comfort. Do you feel that way about Iraqi soldiers too? Who were actually protecting their homeland and are continuously called evil savages in the movie? It's like ya'll have never read/watched All Quiet on the Western Front. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On January 23 2015 15:35 Jibba wrote: Do you feel that way about Iraqi soldiers too? Who were actually protecting their homeland and are continuously called evil savages in the movie? It's like ya'll have never read/watched All Quiet on the Western Front. I hope for your own sake you can paradigmshift one day, most do eventually! | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
On January 23 2015 15:35 Jibba wrote: It's like ya'll have never read/watched All Quiet on the Western Front. I can't speak for the rest, but I have read the book. I don't think you understand what people here have said. No one have stated that it is fun to be a soldier, that it is easy to go and kill or that it is all fine and dandy. But it is necessary to have soldiers, you can't just disband the army and expect everything to be okay. If you are against the war in Iraq, why are you after the soldiers then? They didn't start the war nor did they choose the target. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + how did the princess live, didnt she stab herself in the heart to kill the guy behind her, but then in the end scene we see her well and alive wtf O_o | ||
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KwarK
United States42696 Posts
On January 23 2015 19:08 Ramong wrote: I can't speak for the rest, but I have read the book. I don't think you understand what people here have said. No one have stated that it is fun to be a soldier, that it is easy to go and kill or that it is all fine and dandy. But it is necessary to have soldiers, you can't just disband the army and expect everything to be okay. If you are against the war in Iraq, why are you after the soldiers then? They didn't start the war nor did they choose the target. That's literally the Nuremberg defence. They volunteer to kill who they're ordered to kill and they know, or at least they should know, that the system which is giving the orders has a shitty track record on morality. You don't see the twisting of logic that soldiers get in any other morally ambiguous profession. You don't get hitmen saying "I don't choose the targets" or mafia enforcers explaining that when they chose to join the mafia they had no way of knowing that it might at some point require them to act immorally. | ||
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alpenrahm
Germany628 Posts
On January 23 2015 19:28 KwarK wrote: That's literally the Nuremberg defence. They volunteer to kill who they're ordered to kill and they know, or at least they should know, that the system which is giving the orders has a shitty track record on morality. You don't see the twisting of logic that soldiers get in any other morally ambiguous profession. You don't get hitmen saying "I don't choose the targets" or mafia enforcers explaining that when they chose to join the mafia they had no way of knowing that it might at some point require them to act immorally. best job i ever had. now for my movies Robot & Frank A beautiful tragicomedy about an old catburglar with dementia that rekiindles his passion for life upon recieving loving care from a Robot. Memories I quote a users comment from imdb + Show Spoiler + Memories conveys three of the best anime segments ever done, even if so many anime fans don't know about it. The first time I saw Memories in a film festival in 1998 left me with such an impression that I never forgot about it. Now that finally I own the DVD, I can say that it's the same as I remembered: magnificent. The "Magnetic Rose" segment feels at times like an homage to Kubrick's "2001 : Space Odissey", and now I could say it's a straight antecedent of the sci-fi tendency about the human mind in a simulated space which we have seen in "Dark City", "Matrix", etc. How a simulation program triggers the memories of the explorers and gets mixed with synthetic memories is done in a very intriguing form. The opera music plays a most important role, since it's the soundtrack what gives depth to the happenings here told. "Stink Bomb" is funny as hell, taking the typical idiot hero in the Nintendo kind of plot (thhink Koji in Mazzinger, or Seya in Knigths of the Zodiac) as for what he should be (an idiot, every day man with the flu) , the story revolves around on the accidental creation of a human stinking bomb who treat hens the whole island of Japan. Real funny in a way most kid's animes aren't. Finally, "Cannon Fodder" is the segment which I feel is the true masterpiece in this little anthology. A metaphorical world where a country is in a war against an unknown (and probably inexistent) enemy, and how the cannons are not only weapons, but the complete essence of the cultural, economical and social layers of this surreal "totalitarian" country. Some reminiscence of Orwell's 1984 is present, but the execution is really like anything I have ever seen or read before. It's a one shot segment, so I can hardly imagine the size of some background panels and the animation logistics of this. The music accentuates this strange feeling (very much like in Aeon Flux), and the unusual rendering style makes this a little strange jewel, not only from anime, but from all styles of animation. As I said before, most movie and anime fans don't seem to know, or don't have any memories about this surreal collection of animated storied. I'm glad I'll never forget them. and I rewatched some Akira Kurosawa flics; Seven Samurai, Jojimbo, Rashoumon. | ||
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farvacola
United States18828 Posts
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ThomasjServo
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 23 2015 19:08 Ramong wrote: I can't speak for the rest, but I have read the book. I don't think you understand what people here have said. No one have stated that it is fun to be a soldier, that it is easy to go and kill or that it is all fine and dandy. But it is necessary to have soldiers, you can't just disband the army and expect everything to be okay. If you are against the war in Iraq, why are you after the soldiers then? They didn't start the war nor did they choose the target. Aside from what Kwark said, you're not understanding my full argument. I'm not arguing against soldiers. I'm making a tertiary argument against Kyle because he was a rotten, lying jerk. My primary argument is at Eastwood, for the way he directed the film. If you've read about the way Spielberg wanted to direct it (he was the original choice but later declined), it's in line with what I'm saying. The movie only partially touches on "war is hell," a message which is portrayed in a thousand other movies. What's not touched on is "we're at fault for war" and "war is especially hell when you're the ones being attacked." The movie makes it seem like those who died and were harmed in Iraq didn't die in vain. I'm saying they absolutely did die in vain, and failing to acknowledge that and spurring on the "rah rah go America" spirit is only going to lead to more people dying in vain. The argument that it's just an apolitical biopic doesn't hold up when you realize it barely portrayed the real Kyle. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
PS : best movie scene ever follows ! | ||
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