• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:11
CEST 17:11
KST 00:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 226ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Data needed Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5185 users

[TV] HBO Game of Thrones - Page 920

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 918 919 920 921 922 1836 Next
All book discussion in this thread is now allowed.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 21:04:50
June 03 2013 21:02 GMT
#18381
On June 04 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote:
http://io9.com/the-100-best-tweets-about-last-nights-game-of-thrones-511003444

muhahahahaha~~~~


omg. I can't breathe. Too much schadenfreude for me to handle.

CHANCE FISCHER @Chance_Fischer

Ladies: if your man watches Game Of Thrones, tonight will be the only time he'll cuddle with you and mean it sincerely

ROFL easily one of the best ones.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 03 2013 21:04 GMT
#18382
GG. Tywin wins.
Xrero
Profile Joined August 2010
United States120 Posts
June 03 2013 21:05 GMT
#18383
Whoa!!

Major Stark fan here, and damn!! I'm not certain there are more than just a handful of characters I really like remaining, and they're not so important to the plot right now as Rob and gang were...

So long as the show continues to be awesome, I won't mind much though.

And...Stannis Baratheon has fans? lol
It's kind of astounding how the ridiculous Lord of Light crap has messed stuff up from nowhere by just randomly killing his enemies. Can't wait for Joffrey's end though :D
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
June 03 2013 21:05 GMT
#18384
I both love and hate George RR Martin now. That was heartbreaking.

The north remembers!
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
June 03 2013 21:06 GMT
#18385
On June 04 2013 06:01 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 05:51 Mannerheim wrote:
On June 04 2013 04:44 teapot wrote:
On June 04 2013 03:59 Dazed_Spy wrote:
The unrealistically dark aspect of GoT, I think, is the weird way it blends feudal expectations, a duty-honour based culture, society, intertwined with a fervent religious faith with like...blatant nihilism in the characters, sexual liberalism, open betrayals, murders and so on. Even in the worst periods of European history you couldnt find these sorts of things quite as ubiquitously as you do in GoT. It basically doesnt make sense from a sociological point of view. Its literally a feudal society with little proper regard for duty or leniage or proper behaviour outside of perfunctory "your grace" honorifics.

edit: It also makes no sense how one end its clearly very decentralized [wardens and their vassals], yet has a centralized bureaucracy for the state, in the form of the hand of the King and, clearly, associated state financial instruments. The world really is a hod podge of attitudes and mechanisms from across the centuries, leaving it really...odd. Especially in regards to the darkness of the main characters.


Pretty much this.

It is like Martin has transplanted our modern attitudes and expectations of the rich and powerful (1980s cut-throat greed culture), an elite removed from all social obligation, and slapped it into a medieval setting without much thought to how the whole thing operated.


What the hell are you talking about? This is a literal fantasy world with dragons, zombies and magic. It's not supposed to adhere to your expectations of anything, least of all anything realistic or historical.


Actually, it's just plain wrong in a way that has nothing to do with fantasy worlds.

Sexual liberalism? Homosexuality was rampant in medieval society and practiced extremely often, especially among the clergy and the young pages/squires.

Open betrayals? Do I even need to address how ridiculous it is to claim that open betrayals were not common in the medieval period?

You obviously haven't studied European history very well if you think GoT is at all sensationalist. The only thing I would say is that GoT and GRRM's writing in general doesn't focus at all on the arts/culture/other things people might do outside of drink, kill, scheme, and sex. But in terms of doing dark, violent, terribly unethical things GoT is no more than par for the medieval course.



Again, why are you talking about European history? Just because GRRM borrowed aspects of it for the general setting doesn't mean he now has to follow any conventions of medieval history. It's still a fantasy world.
Aegon I
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada133 Posts
June 03 2013 21:10 GMT
#18386
On June 04 2013 05:55 jinorazi wrote:
http://io9.com/the-100-best-tweets-about-last-nights-game-of-thrones-511003444

muhahahahaha~~~~

This made my DAY.
"His silvery hair was blowing in the wind, and his eyes were a deep purple, darker than this boy's"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
June 03 2013 21:10 GMT
#18387
http://amymarie97.tumblr.com/post/52027265420/breaking-news-game-of-thrones-episode-forces OMG Is this actually true? Please let this be true!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Cirqueenflex
Profile Joined October 2010
499 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 21:12:41
June 03 2013 21:11 GMT
#18388
Killing two main characters was somewhat expected as the show is about shitting on people that you might identify with (those with air time), but stabbing a fetal baby was just - low. All the explicit killing and torture was already hard on me (how to kill someone has come across my mind so many times since I started watching the show), but now a baby? I didn't really care for any of the characters except somewhat for the Imp, as they all made huge choices and portray characters I could not identify with (expected this wedding to be a trap, did not care when it was one). But killing a baby with multiple stabs (and you can't tell me this wasn't intended) is just disgusting and more than I would have needed to see to get the story plot across. Also the less I like people on the show the more screentime they get. So this will have been the last episode of GoT I will have watched. Not because of the characters that died (I disliked them anyway), not for the slaughter, but rather for the lack of people I can relate to and for the excessive and sadistic presentation of the killing/torture stuff.
Give a man a fire, you keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and you keep him warm for the rest of his life.
lebowskiguy
Profile Joined August 2005
Greece201 Posts
June 03 2013 21:11 GMT
#18389
On June 04 2013 06:01 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 05:51 Mannerheim wrote:
On June 04 2013 04:44 teapot wrote:
On June 04 2013 03:59 Dazed_Spy wrote:
The unrealistically dark aspect of GoT, I think, is the weird way it blends feudal expectations, a duty-honour based culture, society, intertwined with a fervent religious faith with like...blatant nihilism in the characters, sexual liberalism, open betrayals, murders and so on. Even in the worst periods of European history you couldnt find these sorts of things quite as ubiquitously as you do in GoT. It basically doesnt make sense from a sociological point of view. Its literally a feudal society with little proper regard for duty or leniage or proper behaviour outside of perfunctory "your grace" honorifics.

edit: It also makes no sense how one end its clearly very decentralized [wardens and their vassals], yet has a centralized bureaucracy for the state, in the form of the hand of the King and, clearly, associated state financial instruments. The world really is a hod podge of attitudes and mechanisms from across the centuries, leaving it really...odd. Especially in regards to the darkness of the main characters.


Pretty much this.

It is like Martin has transplanted our modern attitudes and expectations of the rich and powerful (1980s cut-throat greed culture), an elite removed from all social obligation, and slapped it into a medieval setting without much thought to how the whole thing operated.


What the hell are you talking about? This is a literal fantasy world with dragons, zombies and magic. It's not supposed to adhere to your expectations of anything, least of all anything realistic or historical.


Actually, it's just plain wrong in a way that has nothing to do with fantasy worlds.

Sexual liberalism? Homosexuality was rampant in medieval society and practiced extremely often, especially among the clergy and the young pages/squires.

Open betrayals? Do I even need to address how ridiculous it is to claim that open betrayals were not common in the medieval period?

You obviously haven't studied European history very well if you think GoT is at all sensationalist. The only thing I would say is that GoT and GRRM's writing in general doesn't focus at all on the arts/culture/other things people might do outside of drink, kill, scheme, and sex. But in terms of doing dark, violent, terribly unethical things GoT is no more than par for the medieval course.


or even ancient greek history, there are really fucked up stories in there, as well as extremely interesting political or strategical figures. Do people seriously believe that it was our own era that invented the ruthless search for power or whatever makes this show dark and violent?
Smokie my friend, you are entering a world of pain.
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
June 03 2013 21:11 GMT
#18390
evil genius is Not to badmouth a community of people who are interested about you, is Not to ignore those who would want to high-five you as you walk by, is Not to berate those who are just as passionate about your doing as you; it IS to create an attractive piece for people to be emotionally invested as if they raised it their own, to have the patience to build up and to wait for the ripe fruit, to cultivate at least 2.9 volume of more than 1,000 pages, and then just let it Burn and Tear to the ground. That's the joy created and stemmed from stirring other people's emotion toward a train wreck, pure evil genius.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
June 03 2013 21:18 GMT
#18391
On June 04 2013 06:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
http://amymarie97.tumblr.com/post/52027265420/breaking-news-game-of-thrones-episode-forces OMG Is this actually true? Please let this be true!


Tagged: Game of Thrones, Red Wedding, GoT, satire, redwedding.

Nope.
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
June 03 2013 21:20 GMT
#18392
SMH at all the people implying because evil has been done that it is natural for ALL humanity and should be well represented to show good people as idiots who should never have been good and are punished for their behavior severely, and evil people as smart because they accepted the world for what it really is and took advantage which is basically what GoT does. Evil doesn't just get to win in GoT but it gets to do a jig on goods corpse.

Thinking this way keeps countries at third world level and is why we had an enlightenment eventually just saying.

What I predict is Sansa learns the ways of evil and keeps just enough emotional distance to put up a facade of innocence but uses all of her tricks in one fell swoop.

BTW I am not saying I am boycotting its just I am glad I torrent because I am happy I am not supporting such a Satanic show. Still, because I am not a fundamentalist and I am very invested in the plot so I will probably continue to watch.
Also I love how well made it is you gotta say if it was a bad show people wouldn't cry and I wouldn't have cried either.

I really hope we get a good guy bone thrown at us soon.
Aegon I
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada133 Posts
June 03 2013 21:20 GMT
#18393
On June 04 2013 06:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
http://amymarie97.tumblr.com/post/52027265420/breaking-news-game-of-thrones-episode-forces OMG Is this actually true? Please let this be true!

LMFAO!!!!!!!
"His silvery hair was blowing in the wind, and his eyes were a deep purple, darker than this boy's"
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
June 03 2013 21:22 GMT
#18394
On June 04 2013 06:18 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 06:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
http://amymarie97.tumblr.com/post/52027265420/breaking-news-game-of-thrones-episode-forces OMG Is this actually true? Please let this be true!


Tagged: Game of Thrones, Red Wedding, GoT, satire, redwedding.

Nope.


I want to believe it's true, because if so that's the most hilarious thing ever.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
IIDawnII
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia10 Posts
June 03 2013 21:25 GMT
#18395
"By Dothraki standards the wedding was a very entertaining affair"
Hilarious. Dying. Dead.

Fark me this show is well written and performed. I hate happy endings.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 03 2013 21:31 GMT
#18396
well, that escalated quickly
Aegon I
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 23:54:43
June 03 2013 21:35 GMT
#18397
Mod edit - no thanks.
"His silvery hair was blowing in the wind, and his eyes were a deep purple, darker than this boy's"
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 03 2013 21:36 GMT
#18398
^ Hodor :p
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 03 2013 21:37 GMT
#18399
Dude, that poll is only going to invite book readers who know what happens to vote in it anonymously..
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
June 03 2013 21:37 GMT
#18400
On June 04 2013 06:11 Cirqueenflex wrote:
But killing a baby with multiple stabs (and you can't tell me this wasn't intended) is just disgusting and more than I would have needed to see to get the story plot across. Also the less I like people on the show the more screentime they get. So this will have been the last episode of GoT I will have watched. Not because of the characters that died (I disliked them anyway), not for the slaughter, but rather for the lack of people I can relate to and for the excessive and sadistic presentation of the killing/torture stuff.


You think the point of the whole Red Wedding scene was just to "get a story point across"? They could have just had all of the Starks just suddenly get their throats cut (like the magician in Essos did at the end of S2) if all they were trying to convey with this scene was "...aaaand then the Starks all got killed for betraying Frey."

The point of the scene was to be horrific, to highlight the emotional rollercoaster of the Starks going from a relatively hopeful place to having lost everything within a few minutes. Part of that was deliberately highlighting that they were killing the heir to the throne (and all of the hopes for the future of the Starks) by stabbing Talissa's stomach. It's supposed to be horrific. It's a deliberately stark contrast to the heroic, beautiful, meaningful deaths we're used to important heroes getting.

I actually do take issue with a lot of the unnecessary gore in this show, but all of the gore in that scene served a pretty damn clear purpose, and it worked incredibly well. One of the most amazing TV viewing experiences I've ever had. It's beyond me why that brilliant scene would make someone swear off the show.
Prev 1 918 919 920 921 922 1836 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#14
IntoTheiNu 1618
RotterdaM723
TKL 297
SteadfastSC214
Ryung 193
IndyStarCraft 177
Rex131
CosmosSc2 54
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1944
RotterdaM 723
Lowko382
TKL 297
SteadfastSC 214
Ryung 193
IndyStarCraft 177
Rex 131
CosmosSc2 54
RushiSC 34
mouzStarbuck 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 44836
Calm 4650
Jaedong 2738
Shuttle 1501
Mini 952
Soma 628
EffOrt 593
actioN 383
BeSt 314
Snow 255
[ Show more ]
Larva 250
Stork 223
ggaemo 189
Soulkey 189
Rush 138
Mong 128
Dewaltoss 120
hero 116
Hyun 67
sorry 54
Free 34
Movie 33
Shine 32
ToSsGirL 29
Bale 21
Barracks 21
scan(afreeca) 20
Sharp 20
Rock 18
HiyA 16
Yoon 16
zelot 13
Sacsri 12
Terrorterran 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Purpose 8
Dota 2
Gorgc10707
qojqva971
Dendi918
XaKoH 508
LuMiX2
Counter-Strike
byalli531
x6flipin437
edward74
Other Games
hiko744
B2W.Neo549
DeMusliM293
Hui .208
FrodaN113
Mew2King84
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick31096
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2750
• TFBlade869
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
17h 49m
CrankTV Team League
19h 49m
OSC
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
CrankTV Team League
1d 19h
OSC
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.