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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 16 2013 19:35 GMT
#13541
DON'T READ
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 16 2013 19:35 GMT
#13542
Spoilers on page before
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 19:38:18
April 16 2013 19:36 GMT
#13543
Have you ever been so mad you penta posted?

I don't even think theres any real spoilers, actually.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 16 2013 19:37 GMT
#13544
On April 17 2013 04:34 Pyloss wrote:
Hey dear TLers, i have one question, which Books, and which part of it is used for the current season? I always mix it up, as i am at the end of the third book now.


i'm on storm of swords, book 3 if i recall correctly and on page ~90 which is around episode 2 of season 3.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 19:39:14
April 16 2013 19:39 GMT
#13545
IThe purpose was obviously to get to the next page so others won't see the spoilers if they go to last page.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 16 2013 19:40 GMT
#13546
I don't even know what you guys are talking about, there aren't any spoilers.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 16 2013 19:53 GMT
#13547
@karazax: read the mod note on BillGates post on the last page.

I read something I wish I didn't read because it is very important and very far in the future if it is true.
I am done with this thread, no more reading, no more posting. Was fun and informative with the 95% here who just want to discuss the series with so many people being either too stupid to not spoiler the books or just being dicks it is not worth it.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 16 2013 19:57 GMT
#13548
On April 17 2013 04:53 Fenrax wrote:
@karazax: read the mod note on BillGates post on the last page.

I read something I wish I didn't read because it is very important and very far in the future if it is true.
I am done with this thread, no more reading, no more posting. Was fun and informative with the 95% here who just want to discuss the series with so many people being either too stupid to not spoiler the books or just being dicks it is not worth it.

Sucks when people spoil the fun of others
Keep enjoying the show man, and if you don't mind me saying, give the books a try, too, when you have the time (or the show is done in some distant future, haha), it's sooo worth it!
Get off my lawn, young punks
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 16 2013 20:04 GMT
#13549
Well I appologize for using the word book in my post, even though it contained absolutely nothing specific to any thing that actually happened in the book.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 16 2013 20:05 GMT
#13550
On April 16 2013 22:32 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I'm getting a bit tired with the soft porn crap, I have to say.

Like, if you don't respect your audience enough to think that without this fantasized prostitution for horny 15 yo macho virgins you won't get people interested, you got to reconsider your artistic integrity.

If they could keep youporn and my fantasy show separated I would be grateful to them. That's dumb and vulgar.

What the hell happened with the music at the end? I thought my stream was broken. Is it seriously meant to be??

From wiki:

"The decision to place the song at the end of the episode, right after the amputation of Jaime's hand, was made to reinforce the surprise of the viewers: “It’s such a shocking ending and when we read the scene in the books it was so shocking to us. To really hammer home the shock of that moment you need something unexpected. There’s no version of a traditional score that would keep you as off balance as we wanted that scene to leaving you feeling"

Well, it was so unexpected that I thought "Oh no a crap advert" and I turned the sound down.


I don't really agree with that point of view.

I don't care much for the sex scenes, but neither do I find them vulgar. Imagine yourself in a subway. There are two different situations. In one situation, a girl flashes her boobs at you. In the other situation, a random guy comes in and stabs someone in front of you. Which of the two situations would shock you the most?

I can hardly see why the naked body of a woman would be more vulgar than blood and gore. Not that I'm in the writers head, but perhaps that's what they're trying to get across.


I suppose you could play the devil's advocate and say that the blood and gore isn't real in GoT but the boobs sure are. I guess you'd be right. But boobs sure as hell aren't dangerous.
maru lover forever
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
April 16 2013 20:07 GMT
#13551
People don't like spoilers (even the tiniest ones). Just don't talk about what is in the books and what is not. For the purpose of this thread the books basically don't exist.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#13552
Very impressed with this season so far.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#13553
On April 17 2013 04:53 Fenrax wrote:
@karazax: read the mod note on BillGates post on the last page.

I read something I wish I didn't read because it is very important and very far in the future if it is true.
I am done with this thread, no more reading, no more posting. Was fun and informative with the 95% here who just want to discuss the series with so many people being either too stupid to not spoiler the books or just being dicks it is not worth it.


Solution:
Don't read the last pages of the thread live.
Give the mods some time to moderate first.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#13554
On April 17 2013 05:09 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 04:53 Fenrax wrote:
@karazax: read the mod note on BillGates post on the last page.

I read something I wish I didn't read because it is very important and very far in the future if it is true.
I am done with this thread, no more reading, no more posting. Was fun and informative with the 95% here who just want to discuss the series with so many people being either too stupid to not spoiler the books or just being dicks it is not worth it.


Solution:
Don't read the last pages of the thread live.
Give the mods some time to moderate first.


Yeah but you can't really be part of the discussion if you're responding to posts 3 pages back.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
April 16 2013 20:17 GMT
#13555
On April 17 2013 05:05 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 22:32 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I'm getting a bit tired with the soft porn crap, I have to say.

Like, if you don't respect your audience enough to think that without this fantasized prostitution for horny 15 yo macho virgins you won't get people interested, you got to reconsider your artistic integrity.

If they could keep youporn and my fantasy show separated I would be grateful to them. That's dumb and vulgar.

What the hell happened with the music at the end? I thought my stream was broken. Is it seriously meant to be??

From wiki:

"The decision to place the song at the end of the episode, right after the amputation of Jaime's hand, was made to reinforce the surprise of the viewers: “It’s such a shocking ending and when we read the scene in the books it was so shocking to us. To really hammer home the shock of that moment you need something unexpected. There’s no version of a traditional score that would keep you as off balance as we wanted that scene to leaving you feeling"

Well, it was so unexpected that I thought "Oh no a crap advert" and I turned the sound down.


I don't really agree with that point of view.

I don't care much for the sex scenes, but neither do I find them vulgar. Imagine yourself in a subway. There are two different situations. In one situation, a girl flashes her boobs at you. In the other situation, a random guy comes in and stabs someone in front of you. Which of the two situations would shock you the most?

I can hardly see why the naked body of a woman would be more vulgar than blood and gore. Not that I'm in the writers head, but perhaps that's what they're trying to get across.


I suppose you could play the devil's advocate and say that the blood and gore isn't real in GoT but the boobs sure are. I guess you'd be right. But boobs sure as hell aren't dangerous.


Reminds me of the saying: once an actress takes her clothes off it stops being fiction and starts being a documentary.

But I think the other question to ask is:
Can you tell the story without showing the violence? Can you convey the sexuality without the nudity?

I'd argue you can on the second (Pod's scene stars with him staring at Ros's covered up chest and the last whore he gets is clothed too).

Personally, I could get the point with implied violence and enjoy the show just as much; but I know a lot of people would complain about it being white-washed or unrealistic if you took out the gore.

I guess some people feel the same way about sex and nudity as well. I say they lack imagination =p.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 16 2013 20:24 GMT
#13556
On April 17 2013 05:17 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:05 Incognoto wrote:
On April 16 2013 22:32 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I'm getting a bit tired with the soft porn crap, I have to say.

Like, if you don't respect your audience enough to think that without this fantasized prostitution for horny 15 yo macho virgins you won't get people interested, you got to reconsider your artistic integrity.

If they could keep youporn and my fantasy show separated I would be grateful to them. That's dumb and vulgar.

What the hell happened with the music at the end? I thought my stream was broken. Is it seriously meant to be??

From wiki:

"The decision to place the song at the end of the episode, right after the amputation of Jaime's hand, was made to reinforce the surprise of the viewers: “It’s such a shocking ending and when we read the scene in the books it was so shocking to us. To really hammer home the shock of that moment you need something unexpected. There’s no version of a traditional score that would keep you as off balance as we wanted that scene to leaving you feeling"

Well, it was so unexpected that I thought "Oh no a crap advert" and I turned the sound down.


I don't really agree with that point of view.

I don't care much for the sex scenes, but neither do I find them vulgar. Imagine yourself in a subway. There are two different situations. In one situation, a girl flashes her boobs at you. In the other situation, a random guy comes in and stabs someone in front of you. Which of the two situations would shock you the most?

I can hardly see why the naked body of a woman would be more vulgar than blood and gore. Not that I'm in the writers head, but perhaps that's what they're trying to get across.


I suppose you could play the devil's advocate and say that the blood and gore isn't real in GoT but the boobs sure are. I guess you'd be right. But boobs sure as hell aren't dangerous.


Reminds me of the saying: once an actress takes her clothes off it stops being fiction and starts being a documentary.

But I think the other question to ask is:
Can you tell the story without showing the violence? Can you convey the sexuality without the nudity?

I'd argue you can on the second (Pod's scene stars with him staring at Ros's covered up chest and the last whore he gets is clothed too).

Personally, I could get the point with implied violence and enjoy the show just as much; but I know a lot of people would complain about it being white-washed or unrealistic if you took out the gore.

I guess some people feel the same way about sex and nudity as well. I say they lack imagination =p.


You could tell the same story without the nudity or the gore. It would be the same story with the same plot. But it would be told differently. If this is how the author chooses to tell the story, then that's how it should probably be told. I think it's there to pack an extra punch and it fulfills that role quite well.
maru lover forever
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:33:03
April 16 2013 20:30 GMT
#13557
I think sex scenes that further the plot line in an important way are fine. See Dany and Drogo in season 1. Tyrion and Shae. Even Renly and Loras. People who are actually having sex because it is an important part of their relationship. The problem with many of the show's sex scenes is that so many just seem to be thrown in there just to fill a sex scene quota or something. Often with whores who have no other purpose in the show other than to get naked for a few minutes. Most of them don't even show any actual sex and it's questionable how much many of them add to the story. They have so many other characters to follow that I would generally like to get more scenes from instead.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:33:15
April 16 2013 20:31 GMT
#13558
On April 17 2013 05:17 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:05 Incognoto wrote:
On April 16 2013 22:32 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I'm getting a bit tired with the soft porn crap, I have to say.

Like, if you don't respect your audience enough to think that without this fantasized prostitution for horny 15 yo macho virgins you won't get people interested, you got to reconsider your artistic integrity.

If they could keep youporn and my fantasy show separated I would be grateful to them. That's dumb and vulgar.

What the hell happened with the music at the end? I thought my stream was broken. Is it seriously meant to be??

From wiki:

"The decision to place the song at the end of the episode, right after the amputation of Jaime's hand, was made to reinforce the surprise of the viewers: “It’s such a shocking ending and when we read the scene in the books it was so shocking to us. To really hammer home the shock of that moment you need something unexpected. There’s no version of a traditional score that would keep you as off balance as we wanted that scene to leaving you feeling"

Well, it was so unexpected that I thought "Oh no a crap advert" and I turned the sound down.


I don't really agree with that point of view.

I don't care much for the sex scenes, but neither do I find them vulgar. Imagine yourself in a subway. There are two different situations. In one situation, a girl flashes her boobs at you. In the other situation, a random guy comes in and stabs someone in front of you. Which of the two situations would shock you the most?

I can hardly see why the naked body of a woman would be more vulgar than blood and gore. Not that I'm in the writers head, but perhaps that's what they're trying to get across.


I suppose you could play the devil's advocate and say that the blood and gore isn't real in GoT but the boobs sure are. I guess you'd be right. But boobs sure as hell aren't dangerous.


Reminds me of the saying: once an actress takes her clothes off it stops being fiction and starts being a documentary.

But I think the other question to ask is:
Can you tell the story without showing the violence? Can you convey the sexuality without the nudity?

I'd argue you can on the second (Pod's scene stars with him staring at Ros's covered up chest and the last whore he gets is clothed too).

Personally, I could get the point with implied violence and enjoy the show just as much; but I know a lot of people would complain about it being white-washed or unrealistic if you took out the gore.

I guess some people feel the same way about sex and nudity as well. I say they lack imagination =p.


i dont know...how about converting, say "old boy" as a pg film, think people will enjoy it the same way?
i have hard time watching tv edited shows where they replace swear words.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:36:57
April 16 2013 20:33 GMT
#13559
On April 16 2013 20:10 Serelitz wrote:
It's just like The Walking Dead, the moment someone becomes a 'good guy' with actual depth he gets killed. Looking at you Robb Stark or Jon Snow.

Although Jon will probably meet up with Brann and such first somehow. I wonder what will happen to the Baratheon's blacksmith son.


the red bitch was talking about people with the same blood as stannis, i think they are talking about roberts bastard with arya

also in a preview i think i saw the leader of the men without banners and the red bitch talking. Running in to the men without banners just might have saved both their lives.
savior did nothing wrong
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9209 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:41:48
April 16 2013 20:41 GMT
#13560
^Why would she want to kill Robert's bastards? I hope they (or just him) don't have some hidden magical powers because it would be just stupid.
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