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zimms
Profile Joined November 2009
Austria561 Posts
December 15 2011 11:27 GMT
#6241
So this is your first movie/series based on a book?

I guess I'm lucky, I can watch HBO's GoT as much as i want, but when I take my books I immediatly have 'my' vision of the characters in my head. Except for some where I think HBO did a better job than my imagination.

Doesn't work with LotR though
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 15 2011 11:37 GMT
#6242
On December 15 2011 20:12 sleepingdog wrote:
after being pretty ahead with the books (beginning of "a feast for crows") I've started with the series - and I've got to say I HATE it how some characters don't look like I've imagined them; all the time when I go back to reading I can't get the "wrong" image out of my head

how do you do it?


try it with not expecting everybody to have the same picture of the people like you have.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
December 15 2011 12:31 GMT
#6243
On December 15 2011 20:37 Skilledblob wrote:
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On December 15 2011 20:12 sleepingdog wrote:
after being pretty ahead with the books (beginning of "a feast for crows") I've started with the series - and I've got to say I HATE it how some characters don't look like I've imagined them; all the time when I go back to reading I can't get the "wrong" image out of my head

how do you do it?


try it with not expecting everybody to have the same picture of the people like you have.


wut? of course I don't blame the producers, where did you get that impression?

On December 15 2011 20:27 zimms wrote:
So this is your first movie/series based on a book?


no, but the first one where I started watching while I wasn't finished with the whole book - of course the people looked "different" in LotR too, but there I had already finished the book; same with everything else I've read/watched; I guess the problem is, that the series is in fact "too" well made...because for 1-2 characters where the deviation is too big (Catelyn and Sansa for me) I have no problems switching to "my" version; but I guess I'll always see Peter Dinklage's image from now on when I read the name "Tyrion", he fits and plays too perfectly lol
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 15 2011 12:37 GMT
#6244
On December 15 2011 20:12 sleepingdog wrote:
and I've got to say I HATE it how some characters don't look like I've imagined them;

Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
December 15 2011 12:55 GMT
#6245
On December 15 2011 21:31 sleepingdog wrote:
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On December 15 2011 20:37 Skilledblob wrote:
On December 15 2011 20:12 sleepingdog wrote:
after being pretty ahead with the books (beginning of "a feast for crows") I've started with the series - and I've got to say I HATE it how some characters don't look like I've imagined them; all the time when I go back to reading I can't get the "wrong" image out of my head

how do you do it?


try it with not expecting everybody to have the same picture of the people like you have.


wut? of course I don't blame the producers, where did you get that impression?

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 20:27 zimms wrote:
So this is your first movie/series based on a book?


no, but the first one where I started watching while I wasn't finished with the whole book - of course the people looked "different" in LotR too, but there I had already finished the book; same with everything else I've read/watched; I guess the problem is, that the series is in fact "too" well made...because for 1-2 characters where the deviation is too big (Catelyn and Sansa for me) I have no problems switching to "my" version; but I guess I'll always see Peter Dinklage's image from now on when I read the name "Tyrion", he fits and plays too perfectly lol

well in the case of Sansa (and the other children too) it's explainable with the fact that the series depicts them as 2 year older (GRRM said that if he could go back he'd make them older in the books too). But i absolutely love hwo they made the caracters, even the ones who's apparence were changed like Syrio or some of the Dothraki
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zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 15:40:39
December 16 2011 15:39 GMT
#6246
On November 17 2011 09:32 Sprungjeezy wrote:
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On November 08 2011 01:36 zdfgucker wrote:
I'm gonna go ahead and say the series is overrated. Disclaimer: I did not read the books.
Recently watched all episodes of season 1, liked it. But it looks like they are trying to enforce action when there is none. The series is supposedly about deception and intrigues but you know after very few episodes who the bad guys are, learn how powerful they are and then watch + Show Spoiler +
everybody else -aka the Starks- fail
. That's goddamn predictable so to make up for it you see everyone preparing for war + Show Spoiler +
just to be disappointed because the barbarian king dies
.

The series is entertaining. But then people hype it so much that you expect the series to be perfect, which it is not. I'll be watching season 2 after it's over (hate waiting for episodes), though.



You're post appears to me like someone who read the Title and first sentence of an OP then posted.

Season 1 is all about the build up, this isn't Harry Potter where each book is building up to its own climax. If you read the books (or wait for more seasons to come out) it feels a lot more like one world/one lifetime and is special in that regard as well as the plots. And as far as the "you know who the bad guys are" - that is almost completely and utterly untrue. I can't go into detail, but at one point in time I have pitied all of the Lannisters and at other moments hated them to a large degree (except for Tyrion, <3 him).

But yea, if you've only watched Season 1, you've only seen the setting and the beginning of a FEW of the plots that happen throughout the series.

Edit: If you're going to say "the series is overrated" and "I did not read the books" are you just trying to provoke people?

I haven't tried all of the food, just the potatoes, but mom your thanksgiving dinner is horrible.

Why?


This thread is about the TV series, not the books.

I don't see why you're so mad about me not having read the books, I don't intend to either. While I love reading books, I'm not into fantasy that much. Aside from that, yes, I think the Lannisters are the evil people in the first season of the TV series. They are the guys who strive for power, kill innocents and so on. It might be different in the books, I don't know, but as far as I can tell quite a few people here are reading too much into it and/or try to give the series more depth than it really has.

I already said it's entertaining but they did not create a completely new world like Tolkien for LotR or King for his Dark Tower magnus opus. Each to his own, I enjoyed the other two more.
fLDm
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 16 2011 16:20 GMT
#6247
I was just watching Pillars of the Earth miniseries this week which is very similar to GoT but not fantasy and produced by Ridley Scott. Afterawards I was really disappointed in production quality of GoT.

Unlike GoT Pillars of the Earth had mass battles that looked good for a TV miniseries. It had dream sequences that looked good (I hated that we didn't get any of Ned's dream sequences in GoT) and it had enough random people in scenes where it was logical to have a lot of people (unlike the jousting tournament in GoT which was just pathetic). And from what I read the budget for this show (8 episodes) was around the same GoT had for 10 episodes.

Anyways, I also recommend this show to any GoT fans that are looking for more quality acting and storytelling and enjoy political backstabbing of Middle ages England.
Vvix
Profile Joined February 2009
Brazil40 Posts
December 16 2011 16:58 GMT
#6248
GOT needs more budget, its sad really ...
"Through habit the unnatural can become natural and men forget to question themselves." Miyamoto Musashi
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 17:13:09
December 16 2011 17:01 GMT
#6249
On December 17 2011 01:20 -Archangel- wrote:
I was just watching Pillars of the Earth miniseries this week which is very similar to GoT but not fantasy and produced by Ridley Scott. Afterawards I was really disappointed in production quality of GoT.

Unlike GoT Pillars of the Earth had mass battles that looked good for a TV miniseries. It had dream sequences that looked good (I hated that we didn't get any of Ned's dream sequences in GoT) and it had enough random people in scenes where it was logical to have a lot of people (unlike the jousting tournament in GoT which was just pathetic). And from what I read the budget for this show (8 episodes) was around the same GoT had for 10 episodes.

Anyways, I also recommend this show to any GoT fans that are looking for more quality acting and storytelling and enjoy political backstabbing of Middle ages England.


I don't know shit about film making, but I'd imagine that creating the fantasy world probably took much of the budget. Creating the wall, eyrie, the twins with CGI, custom props (like a massive dragon skull, heart tree). A lot of stuff that already exists for a historical drama have to be made for a fantasy series to create a unique look (not commenting if it's done well in GoT or not). Then diverse shooting locations with different climates. Adds up :/

Does season 2 have the same budget as season 1?

I watched the first 2 episodes of Pillars of the Earth about a year ago but stopped watching for some reason. Gonna have to give it another go some time.
vasatko2
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic28 Posts
December 16 2011 17:05 GMT
#6250
i liked every scene where they fucked
really epic series
just imagine porno with such a strong story, hope the next series will be more about fuck
qqq
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
December 16 2011 17:16 GMT
#6251
unfortunately i read the books after watching the first 2 episodes of the series, so i imagine all the characters like they were there :/

but at least i have books 2-5 to imagine of my own :D
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Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
December 16 2011 17:28 GMT
#6252
John is the only main character that doesn't really appear as I imagined.

I hope they release the DVDs soon No HBO here, been waiting months and months.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 18:25:35
December 16 2011 17:32 GMT
#6253
On November 24 2011 12:07 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 15:33 hoppipolla wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:28 InToTheWannaB wrote:
On November 21 2011 14:25 Whole wrote:

I hope thats not Margaery Tyrell at 1:17. Not what I had in my head

It is. And I agree she looks far too old and 'smirky' (?), I always pictured her as more innocent until... At least my boy Davos is looking mighty fine and Renly with that beard is much better.


Yeah I agree that Margaery is not exactly how I pictured her, but it'll be fine as how they present her character will be much more important. And Renly looks far better in those Season 2 shots than from Season 1.




About Margaery....apparently a spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +
I guess all I can say is that Margaery looks quite good in her role, and I feel like the fit is near perfect.

Stupid spoiler rules T.T .


wow, wow, wow.

People are certainly a little touchy when it comes to this stuff.

Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 23:25:16
December 16 2011 17:37 GMT
#6254
On December 17 2011 02:32 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 12:07 Klogon wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:33 hoppipolla wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:28 InToTheWannaB wrote:
On November 21 2011 14:25 Whole wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE12H1HorUU&

I hope thats not Margaery Tyrell at 1:17. Not what I had in my head

It is. And I agree she looks far too old and 'smirky' (?), I always pictured her as more innocent until... At least my boy Davos is looking mighty fine and Renly with that beard is much better.


Yeah I agree that Margaery is not exactly how I pictured her, but it'll be fine as how they present her character will be much more important. And Renly looks far better in those Season 2 shots than from Season 1.



+ Show Spoiler +
Margaery? Innocent? What books are you guys reading? Just being related to the Queen of Thorns just makes one less than innocent.


I dunno how people got that connection....just try to remember the fool signing at the feast with all them in that tent, innocent little girls don't talk the way she does IMO.


STOP THIS SHIT, NOW!

I come here for updates on the show, to potentially see if there is any new trailer or behind the scenes, not to have shit spoiled for me. Yes, what you said was a spoiler.

I'm currently reading A Storm of Swords and as far as I fucking know, she's pretty goddamn innocent.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
December 16 2011 17:48 GMT
#6255
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 17 2011 02:37 Mordiford wrote:
On December 17 2011 02:32 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 12:07 Klogon wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:33 hoppipolla wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:28 InToTheWannaB wrote:
On November 21 2011 14:25 Whole wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE12H1HorUU&

I hope thats not Margaery Tyrell at 1:17. Not what I had in my head

It is. And I agree she looks far too old and 'smirky' (?), I always pictured her as more innocent until... At least my boy Davos is looking mighty fine and Renly with that beard is much better.


Yeah I agree that Margaery is not exactly how I pictured her, but it'll be fine as how they present her character will be much more important. And Renly looks far better in those Season 2 shots than from Season 1.



Margaery? Innocent? What books are you guys reading? Just being related to the Queen of Thorns just makes one less than innocent.


I dunno how people got that connection....just try to remember the fool signing at the feast with all them in that tent, innocent little girls don't talk the way she does IMO.


STOP THIS SHIT, NOW!

I come here for updates on the show, to potentially see if there is any new trailer or behind the scenes, not to have shit spoiled for me. Yes, what you said was a spoiler.

I'm currently reading A Storm of Swords and as far as I fucking know, she's pretty goddamn innocent.


Scumbag poster: complains about spoiling info that isn't spoilered, then quotes said info outside of spoiler.

(what I mean is you ought to spoiler your quote or you're just as bad as he is derp)
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
December 16 2011 17:53 GMT
#6256
People interpret things differently so of course we all have slightly unique visions of the characters. I think the producers have done an amazing job though to be fair, and aside from the childrens ages (which needed to be changed) most are as I imagined.
As for Pillars of the earth, its production isnt a fraction as good as GoT. I dont see how anyone would think it was.
DVD release is scheduled for March.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 16 2011 18:01 GMT
#6257
On December 17 2011 02:01 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 01:20 -Archangel- wrote:
I was just watching Pillars of the Earth miniseries this week which is very similar to GoT but not fantasy and produced by Ridley Scott. Afterawards I was really disappointed in production quality of GoT.

Unlike GoT Pillars of the Earth had mass battles that looked good for a TV miniseries. It had dream sequences that looked good (I hated that we didn't get any of Ned's dream sequences in GoT) and it had enough random people in scenes where it was logical to have a lot of people (unlike the jousting tournament in GoT which was just pathetic). And from what I read the budget for this show (8 episodes) was around the same GoT had for 10 episodes.

Anyways, I also recommend this show to any GoT fans that are looking for more quality acting and storytelling and enjoy political backstabbing of Middle ages England.


I don't know shit about film making, but I'd imagine that creating the fantasy world probably took much of the budget. Creating the wall, eyrie, the twins with CGI, custom props (like a massive dragon skull, heart tree). A lot of stuff that already exists for a historical drama have to be made for a fantasy series to create a unique look (not commenting if it's done well in GoT or not). Then diverse shooting locations with different climates. Adds up :/

Does season 2 have the same budget as season 1?

I watched the first 2 episodes of Pillars of the Earth about a year ago but stopped watching for some reason. Gonna have to give it another go some time.

I forgot, the sex wasn't thrown in our face every episode in Pillars and it worked as well if not better then GoT.

On the other hand GoT got a much bigger story with more characters and more things going on at the same time. But if someone combined best things from these two shows into next season of GoT that would be awesome.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 18:26:17
December 16 2011 18:19 GMT
#6258
On December 17 2011 02:37 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 02:32 N3rV[Green] wrote:
On November 24 2011 12:07 Klogon wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:33 hoppipolla wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:28 InToTheWannaB wrote:
On November 21 2011 14:25 Whole wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE12H1HorUU&

I hope thats not Margaery Tyrell at 1:17. Not what I had in my head

It is. And I agree she looks far too old and 'smirky' (?), I always pictured her as more innocent until... At least my boy Davos is looking mighty fine and Renly with that beard is much better.


Yeah I agree that Margaery is not exactly how I pictured her, but it'll be fine as how they present her character will be much more important. And Renly looks far better in those Season 2 shots than from Season 1.



Margaery? Innocent? What books are you guys reading? Just being related to the Queen of Thorns just makes one less than innocent.


I dunno how people got that connection....just try to remember the fool signing at the feast with all them in that tent, innocent little girls don't talk the way she does IMO.


STOP THIS SHIT, NOW!

I come here for updates on the show, to potentially see if there is any new trailer or behind the scenes, not to have shit spoiled for me. Yes, what you said was a spoiler.

I'm currently reading A Storm of Swords and as far as I fucking know, she's pretty goddamn innocent.


I think you may just be lacking a bit of reading comprehension unless you only interpret the character's through Sansa's eyes and don't think about what the fuck is going on.

Literally, in the first scene that introduce's Margaery's Grandmother:

+ Show Spoiler +
When Sansa tells what a monster Joffrey is, and how Margaery and the Queen of Thornes don't seem too worried you get the feeling that something is up. So far in the first three books Sansa is the most clueless person in the series, clearly a poor judge of character (note the Joffrey stuff and her mistrust of the Hound). And that's exactly what the poster you're responding to is saying, that scene just doesn't add unless you literally see it through the eye's of Sansa Stark who still believes in true knights.


And I say the above also having JUST completed reading Storm of Swords and I've read no further.

I do agree with the poster that said I imagine her as appearing innocent for sure.

In my opinion:
+ Show Spoiler +
That seems to be a large part of the Highgarden persona. At the very least she shares that with her grandmother. Appear innocent. But what's really going on?
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kingcoyote
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 18:32:25
December 16 2011 18:21 GMT
#6259
On December 17 2011 02:32 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 12:07 Klogon wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:33 hoppipolla wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:28 InToTheWannaB wrote:
On November 21 2011 14:25 Whole wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE12H1HorUU&

I hope thats not Margaery Tyrell at 1:17. Not what I had in my head

It is. And I agree she looks far too old and 'smirky' (?), I always pictured her as more innocent until... At least my boy Davos is looking mighty fine and Renly with that beard is much better.


Yeah I agree that Margaery is not exactly how I pictured her, but it'll be fine as how they present her character will be much more important. And Renly looks far better in those Season 2 shots than from Season 1.




About Margaery....apparently a spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +
.


wow, wow, wow.

People are certainly a little touchy when it comes to this stuff.




Edit that out. You'll still get a warning like I did. This thread does not allow for book spoilers in any way, shape or form. This thread is purely about the show. Read the notice on the top.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
December 16 2011 18:28 GMT
#6260
Done, I just don't understand why people see Margaery as an "innocent"........

We saw how well being an innocent little girl worked for Sansa in the first season, NOT AT ALL.

Oh well, sorry for the "spoilers" xD

Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
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