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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9439 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 10:33:44
May 20 2015 10:32 GMT
#27201
Just thought I'd mention Myrcella's actress is 17. I think you were talking about the other actress, but thought I'd mention it.


She's 15. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nell_Tiger_Free

You are probably thinking of the previous actor.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
May 20 2015 13:10 GMT
#27202
On May 20 2015 10:39 Shock710 wrote:
with all the talk of the trail, im now wondering why the guy who said loras was gay didnt get in trouble himself? Surely with this reglion it isnt a "if u just admitt it, it will be okay" why isnt he getting thrown into a dungeon or even beaten to death like we saw happen to the guys in the brothel.
Unless he made a deal with cersi and the leader guy? but if the leader guy is so righteous about no gay sex why would he agree and just not kill both of them?
That being said atm i feel like magergy and loras are gonna get out some how with lady onnea being the mastermind she is, probably like a huge conflict in kings landing? where the tyrell army just smashes through everything at this rate by the time danny comes to westros its gonna be easy winnings even with a dragon missing (assuming she gets the other two undercontrol) Lanister and tyrell would be left weak after their battle (or maybe the other tywin wont even come to help cersi), peter, boltens and stansis would clash and im not even sure which side peter is on (is he lying to cersi when he says he wants warden of the north through that method?)
no ones going to be left to fight danny, like alot of people predicted too the dragons probably counter the whitewalkers GG danny lol

Dude you misspelt like every single name. I couldnt focus on your point, this is too distracting...
I like starcraft
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 20 2015 16:17 GMT
#27203
On May 20 2015 22:10 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 10:39 Shock710 wrote:
with all the talk of the trail, im now wondering why the guy who said loras was gay didnt get in trouble himself? Surely with this reglion it isnt a "if u just admitt it, it will be okay" why isnt he getting thrown into a dungeon or even beaten to death like we saw happen to the guys in the brothel.
Unless he made a deal with cersi and the leader guy? but if the leader guy is so righteous about no gay sex why would he agree and just not kill both of them?
That being said atm i feel like magergy and loras are gonna get out some how with lady onnea being the mastermind she is, probably like a huge conflict in kings landing? where the tyrell army just smashes through everything at this rate by the time danny comes to westros its gonna be easy winnings even with a dragon missing (assuming she gets the other two undercontrol) Lanister and tyrell would be left weak after their battle (or maybe the other tywin wont even come to help cersi), peter, boltens and stansis would clash and im not even sure which side peter is on (is he lying to cersi when he says he wants warden of the north through that method?)
no ones going to be left to fight danny, like alot of people predicted too the dragons probably counter the whitewalkers GG danny lol

Dude you misspelt like every single name. I couldnt focus on your point, this is too distracting...


It's a TV show, and I'm pretty sure Jaymyieee's name is the only one we've seen in print.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 20 2015 16:28 GMT
#27204
On May 21 2015 01:17 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 22:10 oGoZenob wrote:
On May 20 2015 10:39 Shock710 wrote:
with all the talk of the trail, im now wondering why the guy who said loras was gay didnt get in trouble himself? Surely with this reglion it isnt a "if u just admitt it, it will be okay" why isnt he getting thrown into a dungeon or even beaten to death like we saw happen to the guys in the brothel.
Unless he made a deal with cersi and the leader guy? but if the leader guy is so righteous about no gay sex why would he agree and just not kill both of them?
That being said atm i feel like magergy and loras are gonna get out some how with lady onnea being the mastermind she is, probably like a huge conflict in kings landing? where the tyrell army just smashes through everything at this rate by the time danny comes to westros its gonna be easy winnings even with a dragon missing (assuming she gets the other two undercontrol) Lanister and tyrell would be left weak after their battle (or maybe the other tywin wont even come to help cersi), peter, boltens and stansis would clash and im not even sure which side peter is on (is he lying to cersi when he says he wants warden of the north through that method?)
no ones going to be left to fight danny, like alot of people predicted too the dragons probably counter the whitewalkers GG danny lol

Dude you misspelt like every single name. I couldnt focus on your point, this is too distracting...


It's a TV show, and I'm pretty sure Jaymyieee's name is the only one we've seen in print.

We've seen literally every character's name in print...
It's your boy Guzma!
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
May 20 2015 17:19 GMT
#27205
On May 21 2015 01:17 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 22:10 oGoZenob wrote:
On May 20 2015 10:39 Shock710 wrote:
with all the talk of the trail, im now wondering why the guy who said loras was gay didnt get in trouble himself? Surely with this reglion it isnt a "if u just admitt it, it will be okay" why isnt he getting thrown into a dungeon or even beaten to death like we saw happen to the guys in the brothel.
Unless he made a deal with cersi and the leader guy? but if the leader guy is so righteous about no gay sex why would he agree and just not kill both of them?
That being said atm i feel like magergy and loras are gonna get out some how with lady onnea being the mastermind she is, probably like a huge conflict in kings landing? where the tyrell army just smashes through everything at this rate by the time danny comes to westros its gonna be easy winnings even with a dragon missing (assuming she gets the other two undercontrol) Lanister and tyrell would be left weak after their battle (or maybe the other tywin wont even come to help cersi), peter, boltens and stansis would clash and im not even sure which side peter is on (is he lying to cersi when he says he wants warden of the north through that method?)
no ones going to be left to fight danny, like alot of people predicted too the dragons probably counter the whitewalkers GG danny lol

Dude you misspelt like every single name. I couldnt focus on your point, this is too distracting...


It's a TV show, and I'm pretty sure Jaymyieee's name is the only one we've seen in print.

that doesn't mean there isn't a correct way to spell the characters' names.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 20 2015 17:38 GMT
#27206


This is so good.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
May 20 2015 18:04 GMT
#27207
If I recall correctly children are being murdered and tortured in this show so freaking out about this rape scene is completely ridiculous. Yes rape is bad but everyone should know by now that this show is basically a very long snuff film.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22417 Posts
May 20 2015 18:11 GMT
#27208
On May 21 2015 03:04 B.I.G. wrote:
If I recall correctly children are being murdered and tortured in this show so freaking out about this rape scene is completely ridiculous. Yes rape is bad but everyone should know by now that this show is basically a very long snuff film.

Its simple emotional investment. People have seen and followed Sansa for a long time so it has impact. When it happened to Daenarys (who was considerable younger story wise at the time) people were not invested in her and so didn't care nearly as much.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 20:09:54
May 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#27209
On May 21 2015 03:11 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 03:04 B.I.G. wrote:
If I recall correctly children are being murdered and tortured in this show so freaking out about this rape scene is completely ridiculous. Yes rape is bad but everyone should know by now that this show is basically a very long snuff film.

Its simple emotional investment. People have seen and followed Sansa for a long time so it has impact. When it happened to Daenarys (who was considerable younger story wise at the time) people were not invested in her and so didn't care nearly as much.


There's also the idea that because Sansa was raped, it undoes all the advances her character has made, and she's now back to having no agency and being the victim she was in season 2. It blows my mind that this critic isn't viewed as offensive, considering it literally says that raped women are weak, can't have character growth, and lose all agency over their own lives, but well, what do I know.
No will to live, no wish to die
AndreWiles
Profile Joined May 2015
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 20:16:22
May 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#27210
A fight between the african guy with a halberd and bronn would be cool. Hoping that happens. Chances of jaime and Bron living to the end of this season seemed to have improved. would have been awesome of they died to that snake in episode 4.

Kind of suprised littlefinger isn't dead yet given how many risks he takes. In any case, Briene could get littlefinger into a load of trouble if she rescues Sansa. That's just going to mess up his plan big time. Im hoping that happens, i can't tolerate that humorless character Briene. She's such a bore. And she thinks people dont like her because shes ugly. Well i would find her attractive if she wasn't so servile to tyrants and she had anything interesting, funny or witty to say. Instead she fanatically devotes herself to a tyrannical political institution. And i can't tolerate littlefinger for getting so lucky. He will die soon if he stops getting so lucky.

edit: The great thing about this show is it realistically demonstrates how dumb the political system of monarchy is. Unlike other fantasy series in books/tv, ect. This one actually shows what tyranny is. A single tyrant getting emotional over something and making the entire population of the world suffer over it, quite realistic.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24024 Posts
May 20 2015 20:15 GMT
#27211
On May 21 2015 05:10 AndreWiles wrote:
A fight between the african guy with a halberd and bronn would be cool. Hoping that happens. Chances of jaime and Bron living to the end of this season seemed to have improved. would have been awesome of they died to that snake in episode 4.

Kind of suprised littlefinger isn't dead yet given how many risks he takes. In any case, Briene could get littlefinger into a load of trouble if she rescues Sansa. That's just going to mess up his plan big time. Im hoping that happens, i can't tolerate that humorless character Briene. She's such a bore. And she thinks people dont like her because shes ugly. Well i would find her attractive if she wasn't so servile to tyrants and she had anything interesting, funny or witty to say. Instead she fanatically devotes herself to a tyrannical political institution. And i can't tolerate littlefinger for getting so lucky. He will die soon if he stops getting so lucky.



Other people are hoping Brienne hooks up Podrick right? He's a bit notorious for his work in that arena and I think they could both use a good shag.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
AndreWiles
Profile Joined May 2015
36 Posts
May 20 2015 20:17 GMT
#27212
On May 21 2015 05:15 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 05:10 AndreWiles wrote:
A fight between the african guy with a halberd and bronn would be cool. Hoping that happens. Chances of jaime and Bron living to the end of this season seemed to have improved. would have been awesome of they died to that snake in episode 4.

Kind of suprised littlefinger isn't dead yet given how many risks he takes. In any case, Briene could get littlefinger into a load of trouble if she rescues Sansa. That's just going to mess up his plan big time. Im hoping that happens, i can't tolerate that humorless character Briene. She's such a bore. And she thinks people dont like her because shes ugly. Well i would find her attractive if she wasn't so servile to tyrants and she had anything interesting, funny or witty to say. Instead she fanatically devotes herself to a tyrannical political institution. And i can't tolerate littlefinger for getting so lucky. He will die soon if he stops getting so lucky.



Other people are hoping Brienne hooks up Podrick right? He's a bit notorious for his work in that arena and I think they could both use a good shag.


Or maybe if they rescue sansa, sansa and pod will hook up and it will make up for joffrey and ramsey.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 20 2015 20:21 GMT
#27213
On May 21 2015 03:11 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 03:04 B.I.G. wrote:
If I recall correctly children are being murdered and tortured in this show so freaking out about this rape scene is completely ridiculous. Yes rape is bad but everyone should know by now that this show is basically a very long snuff film.

Its simple emotional investment. People have seen and followed Sansa for a long time so it has impact. When it happened to Daenarys (who was considerable younger story wise at the time) people were not invested in her and so didn't care nearly as much.

I think it also wasn't at the end of an episode, if I remember correctly. I think any series should think long and hard about using a rape scene as a stinger/cliff hanger. Its just a weird place to leave your audience.
We also knew what was going to happen to Daenarys and that the scene would make her stronger and more powerful over time. That isn't present in this scene.

I don't disagree with the inclusion of the scene, but I wouldn't' have used it as the end of an episode.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22417 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-20 20:37:08
May 20 2015 20:34 GMT
#27214
On May 21 2015 05:10 AndreWiles wrote:
A fight between the african guy with a halberd and bronn would be cool. Hoping that happens. Chances of jaime and Bron living to the end of this season seemed to have improved. would have been awesome of they died to that snake in episode 4.

Kind of suprised littlefinger isn't dead yet given how many risks he takes. In any case, Briene could get littlefinger into a load of trouble if she rescues Sansa. That's just going to mess up his plan big time. Im hoping that happens, i can't tolerate that humorless character Briene. She's such a bore. And she thinks people dont like her because shes ugly. Well i would find her attractive if she wasn't so servile to tyrants and she had anything interesting, funny or witty to say. Instead she fanatically devotes herself to a tyrannical political institution. And i can't tolerate littlefinger for getting so lucky. He will die soon if he stops getting so lucky.

edit: The great thing about this show is it realistically demonstrates how dumb the political system of monarchy is. Unlike other fantasy series in books/tv, ect. This one actually shows what tyranny is. A single tyrant getting emotional over something and making the entire population of the world suffer over it, quite realistic.

Littlefinger is alive because he is very careful about who he takes risks against.

The only time he was in a position of risk was when he killed Lyssa and that was because it was an impulsive move he had to make up on the spot to save Sansa.

And now he takes a risk with Cersei because he knows her power is failing fast. He questioned her about Loras before making his promise, he realizes she is going to destroy herself with this latest move and so is free to take risks against her.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
May 20 2015 20:50 GMT
#27215
I thought Sansa would have a plan to kill Ramsey before the marriage (and consummation thereof). She doesn't seem to have learnt anything from her dealings with Joffrey.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Wita
Profile Joined January 2015
Denmark267 Posts
May 20 2015 20:52 GMT
#27216
Littlefinger is the greatest player of the Game it self. His risks are insanely well thought out. Things might turn, since he doesnt know that Ramsay is loco and the risk with Cersei seems a little big as well.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22417 Posts
May 20 2015 20:58 GMT
#27217
The threat with Cersei is well thought out. The Lannisters just lost the Tyrell's as allies. How are they going to be able to march on the Vale or the North after the mauling Rob gave their armies previously without Tyrell armies and while being bankrupt.
The Lannister days are counting down, which is probably why Littlefinger is looking towards Stannis.

And yes I agree Littlefinger is the greatest player. Tyrion is the only one I would see close to him but Littlefinger is much more ruthless.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24024 Posts
May 20 2015 21:07 GMT
#27218
On May 21 2015 05:17 AndreWiles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 05:15 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 21 2015 05:10 AndreWiles wrote:
A fight between the african guy with a halberd and bronn would be cool. Hoping that happens. Chances of jaime and Bron living to the end of this season seemed to have improved. would have been awesome of they died to that snake in episode 4.

Kind of suprised littlefinger isn't dead yet given how many risks he takes. In any case, Briene could get littlefinger into a load of trouble if she rescues Sansa. That's just going to mess up his plan big time. Im hoping that happens, i can't tolerate that humorless character Briene. She's such a bore. And she thinks people dont like her because shes ugly. Well i would find her attractive if she wasn't so servile to tyrants and she had anything interesting, funny or witty to say. Instead she fanatically devotes herself to a tyrannical political institution. And i can't tolerate littlefinger for getting so lucky. He will die soon if he stops getting so lucky.



Other people are hoping Brienne hooks up Podrick right? He's a bit notorious for his work in that arena and I think they could both use a good shag.


Or maybe if they rescue sansa, sansa and pod will hook up and it will make up for joffrey and ramsey.


Setting up Brienne being jealous seems kind of cruel, but right in line with the series.

How it could happen:

+ Show Spoiler +
Brienne and Podrick bang, but they have that awkward one night stand moment in the morning and don't talk about it. Then they go to save Sansa and Podrick ends up doing something heroic (possibly accidentally or coincidentally) to save Sansa, she gets all adrenaline horny and wants to bang Podrick but circumstances don't permit. Brienne notices and feels a familiar jealousy and rages indirectly or randomly. Then it's a love triangle of sorts where Podrick wants Sansa, Brienne is jealous and isn't sure if that means she wants Podrick, and Sansa is torn between pursuing Podrick and her heart or Marrying some high-borne she ends up being pushed towards to secure the kingdom. Then Podrick dies in some shitty way because it's GOT.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 20 2015 21:25 GMT
#27219
On May 21 2015 05:50 ShAsTa wrote:
I thought Sansa would have a plan to kill Ramsey before the marriage (and consummation thereof). She doesn't seem to have learnt anything from her dealings with Joffrey.


A plan? Like what, stab him in the gut and then get flayed alive by his father? I'm not really sure what people expected her to do in this situation, assuming her life is worth anything to her at all. And people saying that this scene somehow undid her seasons of character development and growth may be the most sexist part of it all. Bad things can happen to good, strong people. Also, saying that it wasn't expected is also a bit naive, given all that we know of Ramsay. To be honest, it was probably the most tame potential outcome of their wedding night, and I was expecting much worse.

Give Sansa some benefit of the doubt, she will figure out a way to exact her revenge. The North remembers.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22417 Posts
May 20 2015 21:33 GMT
#27220
On May 21 2015 06:25 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 05:50 ShAsTa wrote:
I thought Sansa would have a plan to kill Ramsey before the marriage (and consummation thereof). She doesn't seem to have learnt anything from her dealings with Joffrey.


A plan? Like what, stab him in the gut and then get flayed alive by his father? I'm not really sure what people expected her to do in this situation, assuming her life is worth anything to her at all. And people saying that this scene somehow undid her seasons of character development and growth may be the most sexist part of it all. Bad things can happen to good, strong people. Also, saying that it wasn't expected is also a bit naive, given all that we know of Ramsay. To be honest, it was probably the most tame potential outcome of their wedding night, and I was expecting much worse.

Give Sansa some benefit of the doubt, she will figure out a way to exact her revenge. The North remembers.

Kill Ramsey, signal the supporters she has as told by the elderly women before and get whisked away into the countryside to hide until Stannis shows up?

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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