On April 29 2015 00:24 URfavHO wrote:
I thought it was just a call back to the opening scene of the series when Ned kills the night watch dude for desertion.

That aswel yes. After all Ned is John's role model.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

April 28 2015 16:15 GMT

#26602

that damn valyrian steel sure cuts smoothly...

Vesimias

Finland135 Posts

April 28 2015 16:19 GMT

#26603

Well considering (if my eyes didn't decieve me), that Brienne's sword straight up broke a sword in the 2nd episode, beheading a man should be no problem. Valyrian steel is so OP man.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

April 28 2015 16:47 GMT

#26604

On April 28 2015 23:43 Gorsameth wrote:
Janos Slynt was banished by Tyrion when he became Hand because he could not be trusted (his sister owned his loyalty) and he betrayed the previous Hand (Ned).

As for why John killed him but helped Sam. Sam didn't refuse orders. He did the best he could but couldn't do better.
Janos on the other hand refused his commander. John also needed to prove to the others that he is a strong leader. He needed to show that he cannot be ignored.

Also Tyrion did not like the murder of the bastards of the former King Robert. Didnt Slynt personally slit the throat of a baby? Tyrion mentioned the murder of the children in the last talk with Slynt when he had him arrested.
Another point why Tyrion is awesome and Slynt got what he deserved.

GreenHorizons

United States24049 Posts

April 28 2015 19:00 GMT

#26605

On April 29 2015 01:19 Vesimias wrote:
Well considering (if my eyes didn't decieve me), that Brienne's sword straight up broke a sword in the 2nd episode, beheading a man should be no problem. Valyrian steel is so OP man.

Totally fogot Bri's sword was Jamie's valaryian steel during that scene durp. I have a feeling that's going to bite Jaimie in the ass in Dorne.

Also Sam saved Jon more than once really it would be kinda buggered if Jon had thrown Sam under the bus. He also proved he wasn't doing it to be a dick or whatever by appointing that jerky commander to first ranger. Which also got that guys respect hence him stepping aside for them to kill his lackey.

LordYama

United States370 Posts

April 28 2015 19:04 GMT

#26606

On April 29 2015 01:19 Vesimias wrote: Valyrian steel is so OP man.

Valyrian Steel should be the name of a weapons upgrade for human melee characters in Warcraft 2.

I thought Janos Slynt was one of the people who held Ned Stark down to get his head chopped off, nice of him to give Jon the chance for some payback.

There was no way Jon could let someone get away with openly defying a direct order on his first day as Lord Commander, his career would have been over before it started. The fact that he wielded the blade personally has to impress the lads also.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

April 28 2015 19:06 GMT

#26607

Who is in possession of the valyrian steel sword that Joffrey got from Tywin now? I guess it's Tommen?

KOFgokuon

United States14912 Posts

April 28 2015 19:12 GMT

#26608

On April 28 2015 23:43 Erinyes wrote:

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If I remember correctly it was Tyrion who sent him to the Wall the in first place while he was still Hand of the King. Janos Slynt was then commander of the Goldcloaks, the city watch basically, and sat together with Tyrion for some late night food and drink. His actions, behaviour and attitude however made Tyrion appoint a new commander ( in fact before they met for that "dinner" ) in the form of Jacelyn Bywater who then threw Janos out. He just couldn't trust someone like to Janos to be honorable seeing as the Goldcloaks and their commander also betrayed Ned Stark.

Jacelyn Bywater is a book character only, in the show Bronn was made head of the goldcloaks

sumsaR

Sweden1812 Posts

April 28 2015 19:32 GMT

#26609

On April 29 2015 04:06 AsnSensation wrote:
Who is in possession of the valyrian steel sword that Joffrey got from Tywin now? I guess it's Tommen?

I can't see a reason for someone else to possess it.

GreenHorizons

United States24049 Posts

April 28 2015 19:58 GMT

#26610

On April 29 2015 04:32 sumsaR wrote:

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I can't see a reason for someone else to possess it.

I could see Varys having secreted it away when he left with Tyrion. I could see it playing a role in an epic battle at the end between whoever survives.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

April 29 2015 00:08 GMT

#26611

So are the Boltons remodeling the North or something, what was with the construction during that scene?

Frolossus

United States4779 Posts

April 29 2015 00:24 GMT

#26612

On April 29 2015 09:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So are the Boltons remodeling the North or something, what was with the construction during that scene?

i thought that when theon took it, they burned everything down
probably repairs from that

Wolfstan

Canada605 Posts

April 29 2015 00:30 GMT

#26613

On April 29 2015 09:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So are the Boltons remodeling the North or something, what was with the construction during that scene?

Theon razed it, Boltons are remodeling it.

KadaverBB

Germany25658 Posts

April 29 2015 00:41 GMT

#26614

Nah Theon didn't. He was knocked unconscious after giving his brilliant speech :d
Either the Ironborn burned Winterfell as a distraction to escape or Ramsay burned it because he is fucking Ramsay.

LeeDawg

United States1306 Posts

April 29 2015 00:44 GMT

#26615

If you ask me, this is Sansa's chance to go from the character everyone is disappointed with, to everyone's pride and glory. Littlefinger seems to have a plan to get the North back under Stark control and undermine the Boltons. As we've been reminded several times this season, the North will always remember the Starks, which gives Sansa the drivers seat (potentially) to return her country under her control. I truly hope the Boltons and Baelish are killed and the Starks have power in the North, but I have no idea how things will go....

Hier

2391 Posts

April 29 2015 01:10 GMT

#26616

That wasn't Winterfell, Petyr and Sansa arrived at Moat Cailin; the place from which Theon lured out the Ironborn by pretending to be himself.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

April 29 2015 01:32 GMT

#26617

On April 29 2015 09:41 KadaverBB wrote:
Nah Theon didn't. He was knocked unconscious after giving his brilliant speech :d
Either the Ironborn burned Winterfell as a distraction to escape or Ramsay burned it because he is fucking Ramsay.

We all know it's Ramsay for sure, the ironborn were "given" free leave to leave, I doubt they'd burn it and expect to make it out alive (which we know didn't happen anyway).

shin_toss

Philippines2589 Posts

April 29 2015 01:40 GMT

#26618

Yes... that was not Winterfell, it was Moat Cailin. Since season 1 Petyr Baelish is running the show on Westeros ;_;

I can't remember which episode in S4 the Ironborn got slaughtered in Moat Cailin. I think I need to rewatch that

GreenHorizons

United States24049 Posts

April 29 2015 01:41 GMT

#26619

On April 29 2015 10:40 shin_toss wrote:
Yes... that was not Winterfell, it was Moat Cailin. Since season 1 Petyr Baelish is running the show on Westeros ;_;

I can't remember which episode in S4 the Ironborn got slaughtered in Moat Cailin. I think I need to rewatch that

Makes me think that this is one of those series I'll really want to watch a second time after I know how it ends to see what hints were dropped that I missed.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

April 29 2015 01:58 GMT

#26620

On April 29 2015 10:41 GreenHorizons wrote:

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Makes me think that this is one of those series I'll really want to watch a second time after I know how it ends to see what hints were dropped that I missed.

In the weeks before every new season I always rewatched the old ones. Didnt do it this time though, it is a little too long by now.