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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 20 2015 22:05 GMT
#26461
On April 21 2015 05:20 AsnSensation wrote:
I had no idea the actor for Jaqen Hygaar was german :O

The accent is actually very noticable. :D
Off-season = best season
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 00:30:08
April 21 2015 00:28 GMT
#26462
On April 21 2015 04:35 Hexe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 03:46 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't understand why are people upset with Dany.

Things progress so fast in the show despite what people say about its slow pace. I've stopped caring about nearly everything related to Dany simply because there has been no reflection on her changes from concubine to Queen. For 3 seasons she has risen to the top of the world and then has quickly lost control. She has acted almost the same in every council/judgment scenes. Jaime on the other hand (ha,) has changed and evolved multiple times. they've been very repitive with all of her toppling city moments and queen events, I think people are just bored of her isolation and nature of her story compared with Jons. I would have loved to see nearly an entire episode with just her and her new city, but done in an interesting way. It's like we get it, shes making mistakes and its hard to be a ruler. Do we need 4-5 seasons to hammer that point for One character?

On another small gripe, I wish the Wall wasnt so simple and the Walkers would have more play in westeros, Season 2 showed the Walkers about to siege the Wall and instead they were just ... scouting? I much prefer The Consult in Prince of Nothing series to what at least the tv show GoT has done with impending doom. I actually sort of hoped during the burning scene the Walkers warning horn would sound off and all rules would change, but instead its back to Game of Thrones. Will we even see 2+ scenes with the Walkers this season?

Despite all the complaints I will continue to watch, I love Jon Snows overall arc so far and the end of episode 4 was another good step. Brienne and Gandry? Have had some great moments and I like the slower pace of this season. The production of the show is insane.


if that happened GoT was probably finished on season 3. GoT is not just about ice zombies and dragons. I think most people are hooked because of the politics and unexpected twists in the series
AKMU / IU
Mostha
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands63 Posts
April 21 2015 01:26 GMT
#26463
On April 21 2015 04:35 Hexe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 03:46 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't understand why are people upset with Dany.

Things progress so fast in the show despite what people say about its slow pace. I've stopped caring about nearly everything related to Dany simply because there has been no reflection on her changes from concubine to Queen. For 3 seasons she has risen to the top of the world and then has quickly lost control. She has acted almost the same in every council/judgment scenes. Jaime on the other hand (ha,) has changed and evolved multiple times. they've been very repitive with all of her toppling city moments and queen events, I think people are just bored of her isolation and nature of her story compared with Jons. I would have loved to see nearly an entire episode with just her and her new city, but done in an interesting way. It's like we get it, shes making mistakes and its hard to be a ruler. Do we need 4-5 seasons to hammer that point for One character?


I think the scenes with Dany, although not the most entertaining are really needed for the story. Because with traveling from slave city to city she is just doing the same thing over and over again. And it really shows how much her character has developed just looking from her first arrival in slaver's bay to where she is now. The dillema of punishing her own men for a crime she cannot really frown upon was brilliant. The fact the unsullied wasn't put to the same sort of trial because he confessed, and the tight spot he put dany in because of doing that.

Even her goal of Westeros has become distant now she has taken it upon herself to liberate all the slaves. But in the end, this is all just a warm up for the wars yet to come in Westeros.

Dany's scene's may not be as exciting as Jon, and her development may not be as staggering as that of Jaime, but it is very subtle and realistic.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
April 21 2015 01:55 GMT
#26464
woah if ayra becomes a faceless assassin doesnt that mean were going have a bunch of different actors playing? and probably adults right? that would be weird
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 02:36:14
April 21 2015 02:33 GMT
#26465
I think the reason so many people dislike the dany lines is they're just so completely unrelated to the rest of the show :s

All the other plot lines are meeting and influencing each other, you care about what happens to any individual because it affects all the other lines. Any individual dying, or getting a boost somehow will have repercussions on all the other players there.

Meanwhile Dany is just so disconnected, she could have all the dragons line dancing, or be killed, and it wouldn't change anything. And on top of that, she has a huge invinceble army which means she can make almost as many bad deicsions as she wants, with the only consequence being her becoming even more angsty, yet we still get 30%+ of each episode dedicated to her losing at simcity.

Hopefully it gets more interesting when other characters arrive

The other Lines though

Ninja Arya Hype!
Bronn Hype!
Pod Hype!
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 02:52:47
April 21 2015 02:51 GMT
#26466
Well since Tyrion and Varys are going that way, I think this season will now connect, westeros and the desert shithole. Also worried for Arya , she might totally forget avenging Ned T__T
AKMU / IU
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 21 2015 03:12 GMT
#26467
On April 21 2015 10:55 Shock710 wrote:
woah if ayra becomes a faceless assassin doesnt that mean were going have a bunch of different actors playing? and probably adults right? that would be weird

if this happens, does it mean that arya can't die?
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
April 21 2015 04:43 GMT
#26468
On April 21 2015 12:12 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 10:55 Shock710 wrote:
woah if ayra becomes a faceless assassin doesnt that mean were going have a bunch of different actors playing? and probably adults right? that would be weird

if this happens, does it mean that arya can't die?


I told myself before, Ned can't die
AKMU / IU
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
April 21 2015 05:43 GMT
#26469
On April 21 2015 11:51 shin_toss wrote:
Well since Tyrion and Varys are going that way, I think this season will now connect, westeros and the desert shithole. Also worried for Arya , she might totally forget avenging Ned T__T

Well she was sitting outside the doorway repeating the names of the people on her "kill list" while fingering the coin. Right now at least she's definitely becoming an assassin to be able to avenge her dead friends/family.

I doubt the training will be able to completely erase her reason for seeking it out. She'll probably learn for a while, then get kicked out/leave because she can't let go of her need for vengeance, and master yoda won't train someone constrained by somethign so basic. So we get awesome ninja arya who can't actually change faces.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 21 2015 08:21 GMT
#26470
On April 21 2015 12:12 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 10:55 Shock710 wrote:
woah if ayra becomes a faceless assassin doesnt that mean were going have a bunch of different actors playing? and probably adults right? that would be weird

if this happens, does it mean that arya can't die?

She will for sure be harder to kill.
Erinyes
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany104 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 11:44:22
April 21 2015 11:43 GMT
#26471
On April 21 2015 13:43 shin_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 12:12 Frolossus wrote:
On April 21 2015 10:55 Shock710 wrote:
woah if ayra becomes a faceless assassin doesnt that mean were going have a bunch of different actors playing? and probably adults right? that would be weird

if this happens, does it mean that arya can't die?


I told myself before, Ned can't die


Hahaha, this is so much me. "Surely someone will intervene to stop them from cutting of Ned's head..... *thud*.... well okay then".

I think for me personally that was the defining moment when I realized this story does not care about whether a character is seen as a "main character". It also enlightened me that I should expect anything and everything at any given time. However, I did not see the Red Wedding coming nor Oberyn's death even though I should have been trained well during the previous seasons.

For me the last few seasons have been a rollercoaster ride between highly excited for a really played character and killing off of said character. I hate that I love that but I admit it keeps the tension and the motivation for me to come back every week and watch it - with my plush penguin - just in case something horrible happens and I need to squeeze something very quickly.

Backup plans must be made.
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
April 21 2015 12:08 GMT
#26472
On April 20 2015 10:59 Topin wrote:
holy shit Kevan Lannister is a boss


Taking none of Cersei's bs. A rare talent.

On the subject of Dany: Her plot line better tie into the rest of the realm and fast. Last night's episode made me fish she was still wandering in the desert. I hope Tyrion saves that part of the show.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
April 21 2015 13:15 GMT
#26473
On April 21 2015 17:21 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 12:12 Frolossus wrote:
On April 21 2015 10:55 Shock710 wrote:
woah if ayra becomes a faceless assassin doesnt that mean were going have a bunch of different actors playing? and probably adults right? that would be weird

if this happens, does it mean that arya can't die?

She will for sure be harder to kill.


I love that everyone responded to this without understanding it. But yes, my expectation is that we have only a few more episodes of "Arya" but I'm looking forward to the adventures of "a girl."
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
April 21 2015 13:34 GMT
#26474
Kevan Lannister is so boss, definitely the new fan favorite of this season.
moo...for DRG
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-21 16:08:27
April 21 2015 16:07 GMT
#26475
On April 21 2015 03:46 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't understand why are people upset with Dany.

She's incompetent and has a Messiah Complex. Seems unlikely things won't get worse.

She also screwed the pooch with her dragons, rather imprisoning all of them in a dungeon (instead of doing some real parenting) for what one of them did. That'll teach them not to fry kids!
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
April 21 2015 17:10 GMT
#26476
On April 22 2015 01:07 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 03:46 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't understand why are people upset with Dany.

She's incompetent and has a Messiah Complex. Seems unlikely things won't get worse.

She also screwed the pooch with her dragons, rather imprisoning all of them in a dungeon (instead of doing some real parenting) for what one of them did. That'll teach them not to fry kids!

not to mention "I'll kill you without a trial for killing a man without a trial !"
I like starcraft
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 21 2015 17:31 GMT
#26477
On April 21 2015 12:12 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 10:55 Shock710 wrote:
woah if ayra becomes a faceless assassin doesnt that mean were going have a bunch of different actors playing? and probably adults right? that would be weird

if this happens, does it mean that arya can't die?


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Valar dohaeris.
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1964 Posts
April 21 2015 17:34 GMT
#26478
On April 21 2015 22:15 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2015 17:21 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:12 Frolossus wrote:
On April 21 2015 10:55 Shock710 wrote:
woah if ayra becomes a faceless assassin doesnt that mean were going have a bunch of different actors playing? and probably adults right? that would be weird

if this happens, does it mean that arya can't die?

She will for sure be harder to kill.


I love that everyone responded to this without understanding it. But yes, my expectation is that we have only a few more episodes of "Arya" but I'm looking forward to the adventures of "a girl."

We'll probably get too see "Arya" every time she kills someone on her list. Cause you know she's going to want them to know who killed them.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 21 2015 18:45 GMT
#26479
On April 22 2015 02:10 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 01:07 sumsaR wrote:
On April 21 2015 03:46 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't understand why are people upset with Dany.

She's incompetent and has a Messiah Complex. Seems unlikely things won't get worse.

She also screwed the pooch with her dragons, rather imprisoning all of them in a dungeon (instead of doing some real parenting) for what one of them did. That'll teach them not to fry kids!

not to mention "I'll kill you without a trial for killing a man without a trial !"

It wasn't without a trial. Lords and Monarchs act as judges. Daenerys listened to what he had to say, he admitted the crime, so she sentenced him to death. You could argue that she should have shown mercy, but it wasn't without a trial.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 21 2015 19:16 GMT
#26480
On April 22 2015 02:10 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 01:07 sumsaR wrote:
On April 21 2015 03:46 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't understand why are people upset with Dany.

She's incompetent and has a Messiah Complex. Seems unlikely things won't get worse.

She also screwed the pooch with her dragons, rather imprisoning all of them in a dungeon (instead of doing some real parenting) for what one of them did. That'll teach them not to fry kids!

not to mention "I'll kill you without a trial for killing a man without a trial !"


She is judge, jury, and executioner unless she wants to appoint a panel of judges like what was used for Tyrion's trial. The man confessed, she heard what he had to say, and sentenced him to death. I do not see a conflict in her application of the law.

Whether or not she should have shown mercy is another question entirely. Robb Stark also followed the law without any interpretation or mercy...but only when it applied to people who weren't his immediate family. At least Dany is consistent (so far).
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