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On August 27 2013 15:57 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't agree with any of you. I found all seasons fun. Yes dexter has changed from the person he was so many seasons ago but that is as it should be
Fun is the apt word IMO.
Dexter as a dark comedy still is great as I've found myself laughing just as much as I did in S1. I think what everyone is suggesting is Dexter as a suspense/thoughtful show has all but gone off the rails. I remember so many holy shit moments in those early Dexter seasons, but now it's as Consummate says, a lot of it seems rehashed. I'm still entertained however, and still looking forward to end. At the very least, it's still better than TWD (where every episode can be summed up as 30 minutes of filler sandwiched by a strong opener/cliffhanger).
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On August 27 2013 11:47 HawaiianPig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 21:45 Mikau wrote:On August 26 2013 21:34 Redox wrote:
Comparisons to Breaking Bad really annoy me. Just completely different things. Makes sense like comparing Dexter to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I don't even know how you can compare Dexter to Buffy. They are worlds apart. BB and Dexter are much much closer to eachother. Either way, even if their only common element is that they're a show on television, Dexter's writing is complete shit. I slapped this together to demonstrate: + Show Spoiler [Breaking Bad spoilers] +
Haha very nice. Top post on the dexter subreddit, and rightly so.
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This season is awful, I can't decide if it's worse than 6 or not. At least 3, 5 and 7 had some tension to it. This show used to give me goosebumps in S1, 2 and 4.
good god this season man, this season. Isn't it supposed to be the last one?
- 5+ new isolated characters, only to be seen this season. The advantage of a series is having character development over time, this raises the stakes. People want to see Dexter run from characters like Doakes, Deb, Batista, hell even Quinn, etc. how can you give a shit about teenage version of Dex or Vogel after less than 10 episodes? It's the last season too, when is shit gonna hit the fan? The most interesting part was seeing Deb freak out at the start and that arc is almost completely dead. She's fine with Hannah now?
- Dexter's in love, again. We saw this dynamic with Lila, Rita, Lumen, and Hannah. Wasn't this show about "cheering" for a serial killer, seeing how he could live every day life with his addiction, questioning the morality of the whole thing and seeing if he'd get away with it?
- "shocking" twists like Vogel writing the code, Masuka having a kid, the brain surgeon reveal, Hannah returning. You can't just keep throwing these things out and expecting people to care, this is like WWE quality writing.
- Quinn has the memory of a hamster
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I'm disappointed mama Vogel isn't the killer. The boyfriend seems like an ass pull. Definitely not final boss tier.
Let's hope Deb turns Hannah and Dexter in and Harrison dies or something.
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On August 27 2013 16:19 Little-Chimp wrote:
- Dexter's in love, again. We saw this dynamic with Lila, Rita, Lumen, and Hannah. Wasn't this show about "cheering" for a serial killer, seeing how he could live every day life with his addiction, questioning the morality of the whole thing and seeing if he'd get away with it?
IMO Rita was the only interesting relationship, because it showed his struggles as a serial killer trying to maintain a cover, and it was before he got so goddamn sappy all the time. For a psychopath, he sure has become quite emo, and I think the decline began with Brother Sam in season 6.
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On August 27 2013 16:06 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2013 15:57 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't agree with any of you. I found all seasons fun. Yes dexter has changed from the person he was so many seasons ago but that is as it should be Fun is the apt word IMO. Dexter as a dark comedy still is great as I've found myself laughing just as much as I did in S1. I think what everyone is suggesting is Dexter as a suspense/thoughtful show has all but gone off the rails. I remember so many holy shit moments in those early Dexter seasons, but now it's as Consummate says, a lot of it seems rehashed. I'm still entertained however, and still looking forward to end. At the very least, it's still better than TWD (where every episode can be summed up as 30 minutes of filler sandwiched by a strong opener/cliffhanger).
no way. TWD is at least in a stage where it has great moments and the acting/dialogue doesn't completely suck. TWD doesn't fumble around aimlessly with next to no followthrough on several plots like Dexter does now.
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On August 27 2013 18:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2013 16:06 ssxsilver wrote:On August 27 2013 15:57 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't agree with any of you. I found all seasons fun. Yes dexter has changed from the person he was so many seasons ago but that is as it should be Fun is the apt word IMO. Dexter as a dark comedy still is great as I've found myself laughing just as much as I did in S1. I think what everyone is suggesting is Dexter as a suspense/thoughtful show has all but gone off the rails. I remember so many holy shit moments in those early Dexter seasons, but now it's as Consummate says, a lot of it seems rehashed. I'm still entertained however, and still looking forward to end. At the very least, it's still better than TWD (where every episode can be summed up as 30 minutes of filler sandwiched by a strong opener/cliffhanger). no way. TWD is at least in a stage where it has great moments and the acting/dialogue doesn't completely suck. TWD doesn't fumble around aimlessly with next to no followthrough on several plots like Dexter does now.
TWD is terrible compared to Dexter. I was half asleep or skipping big parts of that show.
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The part I really enjoyed in this season was the whole "I can't let you leave Hannah, oh wait shit you gotta leave for reals this time but let me leave you at Debra's house for now because its likely her boss will come over unannounced and stir shit up for the "shock" drama rather than just leaving you at vogel's which is the more logical choice"
I almost closed VLC when Deb's boss said he had a hunch she didn't take the boat and leave Miami come to think of it...
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On August 27 2013 19:22 Consummate wrote:
The part I really enjoyed in this season was the whole "I can't let you leave Hannah, oh wait shit you gotta leave for reals this time but let me leave you at Debra's house for now because its likely her boss will come over unannounced and stir shit up for the "shock" drama rather than just leaving you at vogel's which is the more logical choice"
I almost closed VLC when Deb's boss said he had a hunch she didn't take the boat and leave Miami come to think of it...
I don't think Dexter wanted hannah to stay at Vogel's since he thought she was still in danger from the brain surgeon. So I think Debs place IS the most logical actually.
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sad to agree,
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Wearing that attractive pink dress as a fugitive isn't very smart though xD
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On August 28 2013 05:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Wearing that attractive pink dress as a fugitive isn't very smart though xD
I thought the same thing. Didn't she NOT want attention?
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On August 28 2013 05:47 DEN1ED wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2013 19:22 Consummate wrote:
The part I really enjoyed in this season was the whole "I can't let you leave Hannah, oh wait shit you gotta leave for reals this time but let me leave you at Debra's house for now because its likely her boss will come over unannounced and stir shit up for the "shock" drama rather than just leaving you at vogel's which is the more logical choice"
I almost closed VLC when Deb's boss said he had a hunch she didn't take the boat and leave Miami come to think of it... I don't think Dexter wanted hannah to stay at Vogel's since he thought she was still in danger from the brain surgeon. So I think Debs place IS the most logical actually.
The thing is that the brain surgeon dropped Mark's (I hope I am right with his name) body in Dexter's house. It's clear he knows about Dexter and his acquaintances, so she's not particularly safe anywhere but they decided on Deb because shit is going to go down there with her boss.
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Hopefully the show will be back in cpl years with the original writers. Its a long shot, but it is the only thing that holds any hope for me. This show could go for years if the old writers came back.
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On August 27 2013 18:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2013 16:06 ssxsilver wrote:On August 27 2013 15:57 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't agree with any of you. I found all seasons fun. Yes dexter has changed from the person he was so many seasons ago but that is as it should be Fun is the apt word IMO. Dexter as a dark comedy still is great as I've found myself laughing just as much as I did in S1. I think what everyone is suggesting is Dexter as a suspense/thoughtful show has all but gone off the rails. I remember so many holy shit moments in those early Dexter seasons, but now it's as Consummate says, a lot of it seems rehashed. I'm still entertained however, and still looking forward to end. At the very least, it's still better than TWD (where every episode can be summed up as 30 minutes of filler sandwiched by a strong opener/cliffhanger). no way. TWD is at least in a stage where it has great moments and the acting/dialogue doesn't completely suck. TWD doesn't fumble around aimlessly with next to no followthrough on several plots like Dexter does now.
I distinctly remember an episode devoted to a well... a well.
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On August 28 2013 15:20 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2013 18:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 27 2013 16:06 ssxsilver wrote:On August 27 2013 15:57 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't agree with any of you. I found all seasons fun. Yes dexter has changed from the person he was so many seasons ago but that is as it should be Fun is the apt word IMO. Dexter as a dark comedy still is great as I've found myself laughing just as much as I did in S1. I think what everyone is suggesting is Dexter as a suspense/thoughtful show has all but gone off the rails. I remember so many holy shit moments in those early Dexter seasons, but now it's as Consummate says, a lot of it seems rehashed. I'm still entertained however, and still looking forward to end. At the very least, it's still better than TWD (where every episode can be summed up as 30 minutes of filler sandwiched by a strong opener/cliffhanger). no way. TWD is at least in a stage where it has great moments and the acting/dialogue doesn't completely suck. TWD doesn't fumble around aimlessly with next to no followthrough on several plots like Dexter does now. I distinctly remember an episode devoted to a well... a well.
Yes and even that well episode felt like it contributed to something, it was after all filled with a zombie that was contaminating the water supply. It also demonstrated to Maggie the harsh manner in which Rick's group handle the zombies. I don't want to go further on the specifics, as this isn't TWD thread but that eventually added to the character development for Hershel's group. Yeah season 2 was overall a bit of a lull in the series, but it's still leagues above this train wreck of a Dexter season.
I mean a few things off the top of my head from this season alone that seem to have just been forgotten, superficially addressed, or still floating around with no urgency:
- Where's Miller? Y'know the sassy black officer that suddenly skyrocketed in wiseass lines early this season? She took Quinn's sergeant position? Yeah, uh, where is she?
- Speaking of the sergeant subplot, that too seems to be amounting to nothing. It was all kind of for Jaime, as I guess she's getting serious with Quinn, but then all of a sudden Quinn fucks all that up for a chance with Deb again out of the blue. Talk about forced and a waste of time. We've already been down this road. Plus, this is more time away from Dexter's story.
- I didn't like the direction they were going by the introduction of Zach, but at least it seemed like it was gravitating towards a reasonable conclusion with Dexter maybe passing the torch in the end. Then the character dies in the next two episodes...yeah kind of pointless.
- Hi Cassie. Bye Cassie. Die Cassie :/
- Wasn't Dexter beginning to lose control of his dark passenger? That sure seemed interesting, maybe they were going to go the dark route and Dexter would start indiscriminately killing people. Nope. Vogel appears, talks about Harry for a little bit and we haven't followed up on that area since. Guess he's cured.
- Deb was probably the most interesting factor coming into this season. She killed Laguerta, abandoned the career and identity she had been working for the entire series, almost confessed, and even tried to kill both herself and Dexter. Few sessions with Vogel and that whole story got swept right under the rug. Hell, now she's even having dinner with her sworn enemy Hannah.
Finally, it's just totally fucking boring. I mean Dexter has killed, like, 2 people this season? It took 9 episodes for things to heat up, and only slightly really. There's just no urgency or thrill anymore. Season 2 could easily be mistaken as more of a final season than this mess.
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Haha, reading some of the comments here is cracking me up. I stopped watching after Season 6, looks like I'm not missing much?
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On August 28 2013 16:14 Chrispy wrote:
Haha, reading some of the comments here is cracking me up. I stopped watching after Season 6, looks like I'm not missing much?
Not at all. This season is complete garbage, and this is coming from someone who likes the notoriously disliked season 5. I am only continuing watching for the fact that I have invested time into the rest of the series so I might as well suck it up and watch the last one.
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On August 28 2013 16:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2013 15:20 ssxsilver wrote:On August 27 2013 18:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 27 2013 16:06 ssxsilver wrote:On August 27 2013 15:57 -Archangel- wrote:
I don't agree with any of you. I found all seasons fun. Yes dexter has changed from the person he was so many seasons ago but that is as it should be Fun is the apt word IMO. Dexter as a dark comedy still is great as I've found myself laughing just as much as I did in S1. I think what everyone is suggesting is Dexter as a suspense/thoughtful show has all but gone off the rails. I remember so many holy shit moments in those early Dexter seasons, but now it's as Consummate says, a lot of it seems rehashed. I'm still entertained however, and still looking forward to end. At the very least, it's still better than TWD (where every episode can be summed up as 30 minutes of filler sandwiched by a strong opener/cliffhanger). no way. TWD is at least in a stage where it has great moments and the acting/dialogue doesn't completely suck. TWD doesn't fumble around aimlessly with next to no followthrough on several plots like Dexter does now. I distinctly remember an episode devoted to a well... a well. Yes and even that well episode felt like it contributed to something, it was after all filled with a zombie that was contaminating the water supply. It also demonstrated to Maggie the harsh manner in which Rick's group handle the zombies. I don't want to go further on the specifics, as this isn't TWD thread but that eventually added to the character development for Hershel's group. Yeah season 2 was overall a bit of a lull in the series, but it's still leagues above this train wreck of a Dexter season. I mean a few things off the top of my head from this season alone that seem to have just been forgotten, superficially addressed, or still floating around with no urgency: - Where's Miller? Y'know the sassy black officer that suddenly skyrocketed in wiseass lines early this season? She took Quinn's sergeant position? Yeah, uh, where is she? - Speaking of the sergeant subplot, that too seems to be amounting to nothing. It was all kind of for Jaime, as I guess she's getting serious with Quinn, but then all of a sudden Quinn fucks all that up for a chance with Deb again out of the blue. Talk about forced and a waste of time. We've already been down this road. Plus, this is more time away from Dexter's story. - I didn't like the direction they were going by the introduction of Zach, but at least it seemed like it was gravitating towards a reasonable conclusion with Dexter maybe passing the torch in the end. Then the character dies in the next two episodes...yeah kind of pointless. - Hi Cassie. Bye Cassie. Die Cassie :/ - Wasn't Dexter beginning to lose control of his dark passenger? That sure seemed interesting, maybe they were going to go the dark route and Dexter would start indiscriminately killing people. Nope. Vogel appears, talks about Harry for a little bit and we haven't followed up on that area since. Guess he's cured. - Deb was probably the most interesting factor coming into this season. She killed Laguerta, abandoned the career and identity she had been working for the entire series, almost confessed, and even tried to kill both herself and Dexter. Few sessions with Vogel and that whole story got swept right under the rug. Hell, now she's even having dinner with her sworn enemy Hannah. Finally, it's just totally fucking boring. I mean Dexter has killed, like, 2 people this season? It took 9 episodes for things to heat up, and only slightly really. There's just no urgency or thrill anymore. Season 2 could easily be mistaken as more of a final season than this mess.
If we were in court, you would hear 'objection' for every point you make. Just saying...
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