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That's some fucked up logic and rationalization there Sasuke. Why don't you just kill yourself and sever all those connections, alone in oblivion, eh? Nihilism would at least make some sense.
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The thing is. Killing all the tailed beasts and (maybe) the kages is the only part of this stupid plan that i can see making sense;
The Beasts, regardless of whether they just keep to themselves and don't attack anyone were still used as weapons by the ninja world. Getting rid of them so no random asshole can take one and weaponize it makes sense in a 'lowering the nuclear stock pile" kind of way. Killing the Kages and replacing them is sort of a dark twisted version of the whole 'younger generation taking over for the old' theme that constant;y runs through the series as well.
everything OTHER then that makes little to no sense but those 2 things I would understand even it was the "wrong" thing to do of course. In a better writers hands this COULD work.
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On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard. Itachis way was kinda retarded too though: - To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them - The village among other things exists to protect my family If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people Sasuke is basically trying to outdo Itachi, probably because he was the only person he ever respected.
You can't blame the dude for the way he turned out considering his only role model is a person who slaughtered his entire clan in their sleep(including, but no limited to: his parents, clan members who probably didn't even know about the coup d'etat, children, women and elders) for some absurd reason like "the village". That, his childhood and the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.
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On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard. Itachis way was kinda retarded too though: - To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them - The village among other things exists to protect my family If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people [...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up. I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD."
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On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard. Itachis way was kinda retarded too though: - To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them - The village among other things exists to protect my family If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people [...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up. I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD." It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait... That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways.
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he needed Sasuke to grow strong enough to survive and kill Itachi so Sasuke could return as a hero
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Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan.
On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard. Itachis way was kinda retarded too though: - To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them - The village among other things exists to protect my family If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people [...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up. I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD." It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait... That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways. I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi.
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On October 04 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting  In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan. Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard. Itachis way was kinda retarded too though: - To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them - The village among other things exists to protect my family If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people [...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up. I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD." It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait... That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways. I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi.
No one will endorse his plan once they wake up. They would just rofl stomp him (yes the entire ninja world would be able to take him down). No one would follow him and he won't be able to enforce his stupid ideas on anyone alone, you need people to help you enforce that crazy kind of shit just for logistics sake. His idea is just to be powerful to dominate everyone into submission, yep will work out quite well when he has alienated every single ninja on the planet and they collectively just tell him to fuck off and he is just treated like a criminal again.
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On October 04 2014 12:48 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting  In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan. On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard. Itachis way was kinda retarded too though: - To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them - The village among other things exists to protect my family If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people [...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up. I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD." It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait... That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways. I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi. No one will endorse his plan once they wake up. They would just rofl stomp him (yes the entire ninja world would be able to take him down). No one would follow him and he won't be able to enforce his stupid ideas on anyone alone, you need people to help you enforce that crazy kind of shit just for logistics sake. His idea is just to be powerful to dominate everyone into submission, yep will work out quite well when he has alienated every single ninja on the planet and they collectively just tell him to fuck off and he is just treated like a criminal again. look at what Madara could do all by himself without going all out, Sasuke could easily survive dealing with large groups with his Rinnegan
also your wrong in thinking the whole world would get together to Lynch him at this point in time everyone is asleep no matter what Sasuke does before waking them all up there are no witnesses there is only his side of the story he could claim the Kages died in battle against Madara and not a single person would be able to prove differently it wouldnt even be a stretch to say hed be able to trick Kakashi and Sakura into believing his story through Genjutsu
after that Sasuke becomes the lone survivng hero who saved the entire world, with no Kages everyone would naturally fall into line under him anyone else who tries to claim power could be dealt with
after he has power its just a simple task of killing anyone who tries to take him down, even an army wouldnt touch him, pain solod basically an entire village while barely alive and using only dolls that were a bajillion miles away, imagine what Sasuke could do?
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You mean one of the worst criminals of the ninja world? Why would they believe him.
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Sakura will vouch for him. Everyone will believe her
but for real if he ended up beating Naruto and the current hokages who's going to stop him? they'd be forced to do what he wants because he has so many godly powers
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On October 04 2014 13:01 Slaughter wrote: You mean one of the worst criminals of the ninja world? Why would they believe him. there are some people who saw him before the tree and could potentially vouch for him
but if hes the only one standing and undoes the tree and saves them all who can speak out against that?
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On October 04 2014 12:58 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 12:48 Slaughter wrote:On October 04 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting  In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan. On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard. Itachis way was kinda retarded too though: - To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them - The village among other things exists to protect my family If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people [...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up. I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD." It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait... That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways. I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi. No one will endorse his plan once they wake up. They would just rofl stomp him (yes the entire ninja world would be able to take him down). No one would follow him and he won't be able to enforce his stupid ideas on anyone alone, you need people to help you enforce that crazy kind of shit just for logistics sake. His idea is just to be powerful to dominate everyone into submission, yep will work out quite well when he has alienated every single ninja on the planet and they collectively just tell him to fuck off and he is just treated like a criminal again. look at what Madara could do all by himself without going all out, Sasuke could easily survive dealing with large groups with his Rinnegan also your wrong in thinking the whole world would get together to Lynch him at this point in time everyone is asleep no matter what Sasuke does before waking them all up there are no witnesses there is only his side of the story he could claim the Kages died in battle against Madara and not a single person would be able to prove differently it wouldnt even be a stretch to say hed be able to trick Kakashi and Sakura into believing his story through Genjutsu after that Sasuke becomes the lone survivng hero who saved the entire world, with no Kages everyone would naturally fall into line under him anyone else who tries to claim power could be dealt with after he has power its just a simple task of killing anyone who tries to take him down, even an army wouldnt touch him, pain solod basically an entire village while barely alive and using only dolls that were a bajillion miles away, imagine what Sasuke could do? Pain was in a tower or something near konoha, and gai could have taken down pain for sure.
But yeh, point still stands there is no one outside of naruto who realistically has a chance of contending with sasuke
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We already know that Taijutsu is one of the few things to beat/counteract/negate the Rinnegan hax (Gai vs. Madara), so in theory Lee could 1v1 Sasuke, open up all 8 gates and sacrifice himself to kill Sasuke, or weaken him so much that the other ninjas could kill Sasuke.
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On October 04 2014 18:38 Kinie wrote: We already know that Taijutsu is one of the few things to beat/counteract/negate the Rinnegan hax (Gai vs. Madara), so in theory Lee could 1v1 Sasuke, open up all 8 gates and sacrifice himself to kill Sasuke, or weaken him so much that the other ninjas could kill Sasuke.
naruto can bring him back to life like what naruto did with gai
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On October 04 2014 12:48 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting  In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan. On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard. Itachis way was kinda retarded too though: - To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them - The village among other things exists to protect my family If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people [...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up. I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD." It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait... That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways. I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi. No one will endorse his plan once they wake up. They would just rofl stomp him (yes the entire ninja world would be able to take him down). No one would follow him and he won't be able to enforce his stupid ideas on anyone alone, you need people to help you enforce that crazy kind of shit just for logistics sake. His idea is just to be powerful to dominate everyone into submission, yep will work out quite well when he has alienated every single ninja on the planet and they collectively just tell him to fuck off and he is just treated like a criminal again. Slaughter, please, Sasuke is essentially God tier now with his latest upgrade. He chibaku tensei'd all 9 beasts like that. Pain who could only do a single one and was suffering at the time took down all of Konoha. Madara who I would say Sasuke is getting close to (power wise), slapped around the beasts who >>>> than most of the ninjas combined. My point is that yes, logistics would be a problem but Sasuke definitely has the power to eliminate competition and claim dominance.
Heck, as Forikorder mentioned, he can easily eliminate Naruto and the kages then claim he's the only survivor and that he saved them. Most will submit to it so long as his efforts of helping out can be confirmed by several 'important' people etc... Regardless, Naruto will come out alive from their fight and give Sasuke the chance to join him which he'll take kinda like the Madara/Hashi fight from long ago. He'll probably find a place for him after he becomes Hokage and everyone lives happily ever after
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How hilarious of a middle finger would it be if Naruto ends this fight after all this talking and lecturing with a thousand years of pain (shocker) on Sasuke and it saves the ninja world?
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The end of a legendary manga, I hope these last chapters are awesome
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