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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 00:44:09
October 03 2014 00:42 GMT
#18961
That's some fucked up logic and rationalization there Sasuke. Why don't you just kill yourself and sever all those connections, alone in oblivion, eh? Nihilism would at least make some sense.
Zeo1990
Profile Joined October 2011
United States132 Posts
October 03 2014 02:28 GMT
#18962
The thing is. Killing all the tailed beasts and (maybe) the kages is the only part of this stupid plan that i can see making sense;

The Beasts, regardless of whether they just keep to themselves and don't attack anyone were still used as weapons by the ninja world. Getting rid of them so no random asshole can take one and weaponize it makes sense in a 'lowering the nuclear stock pile" kind of way. Killing the Kages and replacing them is sort of a dark twisted version of the whole 'younger generation taking over for the old' theme that constant;y runs through the series as well.

everything OTHER then that makes little to no sense but those 2 things I would understand even it was the "wrong" thing to do of course. In a better writers hands this COULD work.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 08:16:14
October 03 2014 08:14 GMT
#18963
On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote:
This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard.


Itachis way was kinda retarded too though:
- To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them
- The village among other things exists to protect my family

If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people

Sasuke is basically trying to outdo Itachi, probably because he was the only person he ever respected.

You can't blame the dude for the way he turned out considering his only role model is a person who slaughtered his entire clan in their sleep(including, but no limited to: his parents, clan members who probably didn't even know about the coup d'etat, children, women and elders) for some absurd reason like "the village". That, his childhood and the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
October 03 2014 09:22 GMT
#18964
On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:
On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote:
This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard.


Itachis way was kinda retarded too though:
- To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them
- The village among other things exists to protect my family

If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people

[...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.

I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD."
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3274 Posts
October 03 2014 10:55 GMT
#18965
On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:
On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:
On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote:
This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard.


Itachis way was kinda retarded too though:
- To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them
- The village among other things exists to protect my family

If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people

[...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.

I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD."

It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait...
That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 03 2014 14:57 GMT
#18966
he needed Sasuke to grow strong enough to survive and kill Itachi so Sasuke could return as a hero
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 03:43:18
October 04 2014 03:42 GMT
#18967
Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan.

On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:
On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:
On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote:
This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard.


Itachis way was kinda retarded too though:
- To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them
- The village among other things exists to protect my family

If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people

[...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.

I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD."

It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait...
That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways.

I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 03:48:49
October 04 2014 03:48 GMT
#18968
On October 04 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:
Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan.

Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:
On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:
On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:
On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote:
This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard.


Itachis way was kinda retarded too though:
- To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them
- The village among other things exists to protect my family

If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people

[...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.

I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD."

It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait...
That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways.

I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi.


No one will endorse his plan once they wake up. They would just rofl stomp him (yes the entire ninja world would be able to take him down). No one would follow him and he won't be able to enforce his stupid ideas on anyone alone, you need people to help you enforce that crazy kind of shit just for logistics sake. His idea is just to be powerful to dominate everyone into submission, yep will work out quite well when he has alienated every single ninja on the planet and they collectively just tell him to fuck off and he is just treated like a criminal again.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 04 2014 03:58 GMT
#18969
On October 04 2014 12:48 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:
Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan.

On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:
On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:
On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:
On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote:
This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard.


Itachis way was kinda retarded too though:
- To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them
- The village among other things exists to protect my family

If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people

[...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.

I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD."

It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait...
That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways.

I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi.


No one will endorse his plan once they wake up. They would just rofl stomp him (yes the entire ninja world would be able to take him down). No one would follow him and he won't be able to enforce his stupid ideas on anyone alone, you need people to help you enforce that crazy kind of shit just for logistics sake. His idea is just to be powerful to dominate everyone into submission, yep will work out quite well when he has alienated every single ninja on the planet and they collectively just tell him to fuck off and he is just treated like a criminal again.

look at what Madara could do all by himself without going all out, Sasuke could easily survive dealing with large groups with his Rinnegan

also your wrong in thinking the whole world would get together to Lynch him at this point in time everyone is asleep no matter what Sasuke does before waking them all up there are no witnesses there is only his side of the story he could claim the Kages died in battle against Madara and not a single person would be able to prove differently it wouldnt even be a stretch to say hed be able to trick Kakashi and Sakura into believing his story through Genjutsu

after that Sasuke becomes the lone survivng hero who saved the entire world, with no Kages everyone would naturally fall into line under him anyone else who tries to claim power could be dealt with

after he has power its just a simple task of killing anyone who tries to take him down, even an army wouldnt touch him, pain solod basically an entire village while barely alive and using only dolls that were a bajillion miles away, imagine what Sasuke could do?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 04 2014 04:01 GMT
#18970
You mean one of the worst criminals of the ninja world? Why would they believe him.
Never Knows Best.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 04:13:39
October 04 2014 04:10 GMT
#18971
Sakura will vouch for him. Everyone will believe her

but for real if he ended up beating Naruto and the current hokages who's going to stop him? they'd be forced to do what he wants because he has so many godly powers
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 04 2014 04:56 GMT
#18972
On October 04 2014 13:01 Slaughter wrote:
You mean one of the worst criminals of the ninja world? Why would they believe him.

there are some people who saw him before the tree and could potentially vouch for him

but if hes the only one standing and undoes the tree and saves them all who can speak out against that?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 08:57:42
October 04 2014 08:57 GMT
#18973
On October 04 2014 12:58 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 12:48 Slaughter wrote:
On October 04 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:
Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan.

On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:
On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:
On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:
On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote:
This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard.


Itachis way was kinda retarded too though:
- To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them
- The village among other things exists to protect my family

If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people

[...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.

I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD."

It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait...
That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways.

I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi.


No one will endorse his plan once they wake up. They would just rofl stomp him (yes the entire ninja world would be able to take him down). No one would follow him and he won't be able to enforce his stupid ideas on anyone alone, you need people to help you enforce that crazy kind of shit just for logistics sake. His idea is just to be powerful to dominate everyone into submission, yep will work out quite well when he has alienated every single ninja on the planet and they collectively just tell him to fuck off and he is just treated like a criminal again.

look at what Madara could do all by himself without going all out, Sasuke could easily survive dealing with large groups with his Rinnegan

also your wrong in thinking the whole world would get together to Lynch him at this point in time everyone is asleep no matter what Sasuke does before waking them all up there are no witnesses there is only his side of the story he could claim the Kages died in battle against Madara and not a single person would be able to prove differently it wouldnt even be a stretch to say hed be able to trick Kakashi and Sakura into believing his story through Genjutsu

after that Sasuke becomes the lone survivng hero who saved the entire world, with no Kages everyone would naturally fall into line under him anyone else who tries to claim power could be dealt with

after he has power its just a simple task of killing anyone who tries to take him down, even an army wouldnt touch him, pain solod basically an entire village while barely alive and using only dolls that were a bajillion miles away, imagine what Sasuke could do?

Pain was in a tower or something near konoha, and gai could have taken down pain for sure.

But yeh, point still stands there is no one outside of naruto who realistically has a chance of contending with sasuke
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 09:39:06
October 04 2014 09:38 GMT
#18974
We already know that Taijutsu is one of the few things to beat/counteract/negate the Rinnegan hax (Gai vs. Madara), so in theory Lee could 1v1 Sasuke, open up all 8 gates and sacrifice himself to kill Sasuke, or weaken him so much that the other ninjas could kill Sasuke.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 04 2014 12:00 GMT
#18975
On October 04 2014 18:38 Kinie wrote:
We already know that Taijutsu is one of the few things to beat/counteract/negate the Rinnegan hax (Gai vs. Madara), so in theory Lee could 1v1 Sasuke, open up all 8 gates and sacrifice himself to kill Sasuke, or weaken him so much that the other ninjas could kill Sasuke.


naruto can bring him back to life like what naruto did with gai
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 04 2014 15:32 GMT
#18976
On October 04 2014 12:48 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 12:42 BigFan wrote:
Not a bad chapter though I would've liked to see a bit more fighting In general though, aside from the small parts of Sasuke's plan that he didn't consider (sleep for example etc...), I think he would be able to make it work. The whole idea is that by destroying all the villages, he can reunite everyone under the same one eliminating the whole village vs village mentality. On top of that, he gets rid of the tailed beasts avoiding others from getting their hands on them to use and by being a dictator, everyone's focus would be on him. No longer will people feel like they belong in one camp or another. Their main focus will be on Sasuke which will unite them. He definitely has the power to take down anyone asides from Naruto imo. The kages are probably a joke for him now especially when you consider he kept up well enough back when he stormed their summit and everyone beneath them is child's play. Yes, he won't live forever but I doubt he's thinking that far ahead. Main goal is to eliminate the only person that can challenge him to proceed with the plan.

On October 03 2014 19:55 Blackfeather wrote:
On October 03 2014 18:22 sumsaR wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:14 Zane wrote:
On October 03 2014 06:09 Fi0na wrote:
On October 03 2014 05:53 Kazeyonoma wrote:
This story should be renamed: Itachi - How I gave up my life to protect the world but for no reason because my brother is a retard.


Itachis way was kinda retarded too though:
- To protect the village I become a traitor to my own family and kill them
- The village among other things exists to protect my family

If you follow Itachis logic then the woman boss they just fought was right. The best way to prevent any harm to all people is to kill all people

[...] the psychological torture from Itachi would fuck anyone up.

I always wondered what the point of that was. "I protect you by giving you PTSD."

It's because he loves him... So he made sure of it by torturing him 144 hours... Wait...
That one has never made any sense to me tbh. Itachi's decision just seemed wrong either way (I mean either kill the leaders of one of the two factions, or try to negotiate on the basic that everyone knows the gig is up and it's not gonna work) and he totally abused Sasuke in the process with literally no reason at all. The whole "hate to get strong" argument could only make Sasuke crazy and Danzo had no reason to kill him anyways.

I saw it as Itachi wanting Sasuke to focus on him and as mentioned above, to become a hero after he kills Itachi.


No one will endorse his plan once they wake up. They would just rofl stomp him (yes the entire ninja world would be able to take him down). No one would follow him and he won't be able to enforce his stupid ideas on anyone alone, you need people to help you enforce that crazy kind of shit just for logistics sake. His idea is just to be powerful to dominate everyone into submission, yep will work out quite well when he has alienated every single ninja on the planet and they collectively just tell him to fuck off and he is just treated like a criminal again.

Slaughter, please, Sasuke is essentially God tier now with his latest upgrade. He chibaku tensei'd all 9 beasts like that. Pain who could only do a single one and was suffering at the time took down all of Konoha. Madara who I would say Sasuke is getting close to (power wise), slapped around the beasts who >>>> than most of the ninjas combined. My point is that yes, logistics would be a problem but Sasuke definitely has the power to eliminate competition and claim dominance.

Heck, as Forikorder mentioned, he can easily eliminate Naruto and the kages then claim he's the only survivor and that he saved them. Most will submit to it so long as his efforts of helping out can be confirmed by several 'important' people etc... Regardless, Naruto will come out alive from their fight and give Sasuke the chance to join him which he'll take kinda like the Madara/Hashi fight from long ago. He'll probably find a place for him after he becomes Hokage and everyone lives happily ever after
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
October 06 2014 08:17 GMT
#18977
How hilarious of a middle finger would it be if Naruto ends this fight after all this talking and lecturing with a thousand years of pain (shocker) on Sasuke and it saves the ninja world?
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 06 2014 08:20 GMT
#18978
bruh

http://kotaku.com/the-naruto-manga-ends-next-month-1642809700?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18763 Posts
October 06 2014 08:23 GMT
#18979
thank god it ends
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 06 2014 08:24 GMT
#18980
The end of a legendary manga, I hope these last chapters are awesome
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