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On March 14 2014 05:52 MoonPieMat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2014 16:03 GTPGlitch wrote:
How it's really gonna end:
Sasuke and Naruto tag-team Madara down, OMG U GUYZ HERO etc
Sasuke stabs naruto in the back, but naruto manages to overcome the disadvantage of having a sword stuck through his ribcage and defeat sasuke, and is elected hokage to lead the 5 nations into a new era of prosperity
However, sasuke didn't really die - instead, he retreats to the shadows to rebuild the uchiha clan and at the same time creates an akatsuki-style organization, which he names Hebi in honor of his previous escapades.
Naruto is actually 100% aware of this and maintains covert communications with Sasuke - Hebi is labeled a terrorist organization by the Five Kages, but Naruto is secretly using Hebi as his secret police. Sasuke rules the shadows and Naruto rules the light. With the death of Madara, none can match the might of the Naruke duo, cue madman rules the world ending :D I would be really okay with this ending.
Me too.
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On March 15 2014 22:45 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2014 12:40 BigFan wrote:First time I was able to tear up in this manga :'( Dai seemed like the perfect father for Gai and now Gai is able to die. Please Kishi, don't mess this up. I'm expecting some kind of damage on Madara, anything! Just don't let Madara kill him or wait for him to burn out without any damage on him. That would be such a big letdown! On March 13 2014 12:37 ProV1 wrote:
Few questions that need answering: Gai can summon turtles. That's not ninjutsu?
Two supposed at least chunin ranked ninjas beat up a five year old kid that badly for throwing a rock at them? Wtf? This is konoha right? And they supposedly got over it without any charge?
Just a thought, I wonder how many swordsmen of the mist dai f'ed up with his eight gates
my guess is that the kid challenged them and won't leave them go till they accepted so they gave him a beating lol. I do agree with your point though, just bizzare. Yeah sure 8 gate damages madara and kyubi form barely scratches obito in 6 path mode with sage chackra. Regarding gai being able to use ninjutsu with the summoning of turtles and the recent chapter saying he can't do ninjutsu. Just count it as plothole. Kishi has been doing it for the entire final arc anyways. So whatever.
He couldn't do ninjutsu when he was a kid.
Unlike Rock Lee, Gai did not have a birth defect making it impossible for him to ever learn ninjutsu.
Also I assume you're just hating because you don't like Gai as much as glowing power rangers.
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also its not like summoning is difficult, Naruto learned how to easily its just a power drain
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On March 15 2014 22:48 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 22:45 goody153 wrote:On March 13 2014 12:40 BigFan wrote:First time I was able to tear up in this manga :'( Dai seemed like the perfect father for Gai and now Gai is able to die. Please Kishi, don't mess this up. I'm expecting some kind of damage on Madara, anything! Just don't let Madara kill him or wait for him to burn out without any damage on him. That would be such a big letdown! On March 13 2014 12:37 ProV1 wrote:
Few questions that need answering: Gai can summon turtles. That's not ninjutsu?
Two supposed at least chunin ranked ninjas beat up a five year old kid that badly for throwing a rock at them? Wtf? This is konoha right? And they supposedly got over it without any charge?
Just a thought, I wonder how many swordsmen of the mist dai f'ed up with his eight gates
my guess is that the kid challenged them and won't leave them go till they accepted so they gave him a beating lol. I do agree with your point though, just bizzare. Yeah sure 8 gate damages madara and kyubi form barely scratches obito in 6 path mode with sage chackra. Regarding gai being able to use ninjutsu with the summoning of turtles and the recent chapter saying he can't do ninjutsu. Just count it as plothole. Kishi has been doing it for the entire final arc anyways. So whatever. He couldn't do ninjutsu when he was a kid. Unlike Rock Lee, Gai did not have a birth defect making it impossible for him to ever learn ninjutsu. Also I assume you're just hating because you don't like Gai as much as glowing power rangers.
No i hate the entire arc. Destroyed all the feeling i had watching naruto for like a decade.
I never really expected Gai to be a mister Bigshot that is more powerful than someone in tailed beast form. That is why i hated the new episode not that i hate gai.
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how about if goku and the z fighters just come in cuz of some space time continuum mix up, naruto and goku do a fusion jutsu and do a combined spirit bomb giant rasengan thing, and then they leave again except gohan's family cuz he wants to study chakra, and naruto leaves for the other dbz world and becomes the martial arts champion there (which equals hokage) and goku becomes hokage :D
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On March 14 2014 06:23 Lokian wrote:
we talking about endings? I would like to see another time-skip where naruto is a full adult and becomes a hokage. The new series will end in Sasuke vs Naruto and both of them dying while they're around middle-age... and then a new generation appears. That's the very end with possible spin-offs from naruto's child, etc.
I still believe the 4th hokage will finish off Madara, even without arms. The last blow will redeem everything that's happened to him so far. Sasuke weakens madara with his new eyes(?), naruto sucks out all the bijuus, kakashi might get obito's other eye once madara takes back his eye and starts laying waste on madara. I have no idea how madara will reach obito in the other dimension but it probably has to do with the black zetsu. It could be that madara will take kakashi's eye and use that power.
I would so laugh if Madara was killed by a kunai. I guess Minato's job is to take some deadly blow for of his son, have a dramatic "dead again" scene with another flashback.
That aside i am not sure if Kishi noticed this, but he created the dragon-balls (aka no permanent death). They (Kabuto or Oro, mb Sasuke or Suigetsu cause they read the scroll) can just edo tensei Nagato and he can rezz people.
I still believe that Kishi didnt notice though and say that if we see another big rezz, it will come from Sasuke to redeem his char. His chances to become Hokage and rebuild his clan are next to zero anyways and he can "entrust" everything to Naruto at the end. I (hopefully) doubt that we see another big rezz though.
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On March 15 2014 23:44 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 22:48 Mataza wrote:On March 15 2014 22:45 goody153 wrote:On March 13 2014 12:40 BigFan wrote:First time I was able to tear up in this manga :'( Dai seemed like the perfect father for Gai and now Gai is able to die. Please Kishi, don't mess this up. I'm expecting some kind of damage on Madara, anything! Just don't let Madara kill him or wait for him to burn out without any damage on him. That would be such a big letdown! On March 13 2014 12:37 ProV1 wrote:
Few questions that need answering: Gai can summon turtles. That's not ninjutsu?
Two supposed at least chunin ranked ninjas beat up a five year old kid that badly for throwing a rock at them? Wtf? This is konoha right? And they supposedly got over it without any charge?
Just a thought, I wonder how many swordsmen of the mist dai f'ed up with his eight gates
my guess is that the kid challenged them and won't leave them go till they accepted so they gave him a beating lol. I do agree with your point though, just bizzare. Yeah sure 8 gate damages madara and kyubi form barely scratches obito in 6 path mode with sage chackra. Regarding gai being able to use ninjutsu with the summoning of turtles and the recent chapter saying he can't do ninjutsu. Just count it as plothole. Kishi has been doing it for the entire final arc anyways. So whatever. He couldn't do ninjutsu when he was a kid. Unlike Rock Lee, Gai did not have a birth defect making it impossible for him to ever learn ninjutsu. Also I assume you're just hating because you don't like Gai as much as glowing power rangers. No i hate the entire arc. Destroyed all the feeling i had watching naruto for like a decade. I never really expected Gai to be a mister Bigshot that is more powerful than someone in tailed beast form. That is why i hated the new episode not that i hate gai.
weve seen regular people stand toe to toe with Bijuus for ages
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I think the difference is that the other people used techniques with fancy names which remind everyone of magic, while Gai may have names for techniques but he is still kicking and punching people.
Also in contrast to everyone Gai has to ensure his own death so he can be this strong during his death throes.
If it wasn't worth it, he wouldn't kill himself by doing this.
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On March 16 2014 00:14 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 23:44 goody153 wrote:On March 15 2014 22:48 Mataza wrote:On March 15 2014 22:45 goody153 wrote:On March 13 2014 12:40 BigFan wrote:First time I was able to tear up in this manga :'( Dai seemed like the perfect father for Gai and now Gai is able to die. Please Kishi, don't mess this up. I'm expecting some kind of damage on Madara, anything! Just don't let Madara kill him or wait for him to burn out without any damage on him. That would be such a big letdown! On March 13 2014 12:37 ProV1 wrote:
Few questions that need answering: Gai can summon turtles. That's not ninjutsu?
Two supposed at least chunin ranked ninjas beat up a five year old kid that badly for throwing a rock at them? Wtf? This is konoha right? And they supposedly got over it without any charge?
Just a thought, I wonder how many swordsmen of the mist dai f'ed up with his eight gates
my guess is that the kid challenged them and won't leave them go till they accepted so they gave him a beating lol. I do agree with your point though, just bizzare. Yeah sure 8 gate damages madara and kyubi form barely scratches obito in 6 path mode with sage chackra. Regarding gai being able to use ninjutsu with the summoning of turtles and the recent chapter saying he can't do ninjutsu. Just count it as plothole. Kishi has been doing it for the entire final arc anyways. So whatever. He couldn't do ninjutsu when he was a kid. Unlike Rock Lee, Gai did not have a birth defect making it impossible for him to ever learn ninjutsu. Also I assume you're just hating because you don't like Gai as much as glowing power rangers. No i hate the entire arc. Destroyed all the feeling i had watching naruto for like a decade. I never really expected Gai to be a mister Bigshot that is more powerful than someone in tailed beast form. That is why i hated the new episode not that i hate gai. weve seen regular people stand toe to toe with Bijuus for ages
That was one of the bad parts that kishi pursued for god knows what reason but i am not the author so whatever.
Gai is supposed to just a high level ninja not the 3rd Raikage Level of Ninja. I hate how kishi just makes every single ninja almost on the same level right now. And Gai using 8 gate scratching the most powerful form in the entire narutoverse while tailed beast form. But naruto is already ridiculous lately so whatever.
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gai isnt 3rd raikage level, it's just using 8 gates is a one time only massive power spike
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On March 16 2014 00:30 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 00:14 Forikorder wrote:On March 15 2014 23:44 goody153 wrote:On March 15 2014 22:48 Mataza wrote:On March 15 2014 22:45 goody153 wrote:On March 13 2014 12:40 BigFan wrote:First time I was able to tear up in this manga :'( Dai seemed like the perfect father for Gai and now Gai is able to die. Please Kishi, don't mess this up. I'm expecting some kind of damage on Madara, anything! Just don't let Madara kill him or wait for him to burn out without any damage on him. That would be such a big letdown! On March 13 2014 12:37 ProV1 wrote:
Few questions that need answering: Gai can summon turtles. That's not ninjutsu?
Two supposed at least chunin ranked ninjas beat up a five year old kid that badly for throwing a rock at them? Wtf? This is konoha right? And they supposedly got over it without any charge?
Just a thought, I wonder how many swordsmen of the mist dai f'ed up with his eight gates
my guess is that the kid challenged them and won't leave them go till they accepted so they gave him a beating lol. I do agree with your point though, just bizzare. Yeah sure 8 gate damages madara and kyubi form barely scratches obito in 6 path mode with sage chackra. Regarding gai being able to use ninjutsu with the summoning of turtles and the recent chapter saying he can't do ninjutsu. Just count it as plothole. Kishi has been doing it for the entire final arc anyways. So whatever. He couldn't do ninjutsu when he was a kid. Unlike Rock Lee, Gai did not have a birth defect making it impossible for him to ever learn ninjutsu. Also I assume you're just hating because you don't like Gai as much as glowing power rangers. No i hate the entire arc. Destroyed all the feeling i had watching naruto for like a decade. I never really expected Gai to be a mister Bigshot that is more powerful than someone in tailed beast form. That is why i hated the new episode not that i hate gai. weve seen regular people stand toe to toe with Bijuus for ages That was one of the bad parts that kishi pursued for god knows what reason but i am not the author so whatever. Gai is supposed to just a high level ninja not the 3rd Raikage Level of Ninja. I hate how kishi just makes every single ninja almost on the same level right now. And Gai using 8 gate scratching the most powerful form in the entire narutoverse while tailed beast form. But naruto is already ridiculous lately so whatever.
well its been an extremely major part of it since the sand invaded Konoha
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On March 15 2014 23:44 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 22:48 Mataza wrote:On March 15 2014 22:45 goody153 wrote:On March 13 2014 12:40 BigFan wrote:First time I was able to tear up in this manga :'( Dai seemed like the perfect father for Gai and now Gai is able to die. Please Kishi, don't mess this up. I'm expecting some kind of damage on Madara, anything! Just don't let Madara kill him or wait for him to burn out without any damage on him. That would be such a big letdown! On March 13 2014 12:37 ProV1 wrote:
Few questions that need answering: Gai can summon turtles. That's not ninjutsu?
Two supposed at least chunin ranked ninjas beat up a five year old kid that badly for throwing a rock at them? Wtf? This is konoha right? And they supposedly got over it without any charge?
Just a thought, I wonder how many swordsmen of the mist dai f'ed up with his eight gates
my guess is that the kid challenged them and won't leave them go till they accepted so they gave him a beating lol. I do agree with your point though, just bizzare. Yeah sure 8 gate damages madara and kyubi form barely scratches obito in 6 path mode with sage chackra. Regarding gai being able to use ninjutsu with the summoning of turtles and the recent chapter saying he can't do ninjutsu. Just count it as plothole. Kishi has been doing it for the entire final arc anyways. So whatever. He couldn't do ninjutsu when he was a kid. Unlike Rock Lee, Gai did not have a birth defect making it impossible for him to ever learn ninjutsu. Also I assume you're just hating because you don't like Gai as much as glowing power rangers. No i hate the entire arc. Destroyed all the feeling i had watching naruto for like a decade. I never really expected Gai to be a mister Bigshot that is more powerful than someone in tailed beast form. That is why i hated the new episode not that i hate gai.
It's not fair to say that 8 gates = tailed beast power, because it's a temporary spike in power, and then you're dead. Also, it's a different kind of power, taijutsu, as opposed to the masses of chakra and ninjutsu(tailed beast bomb) that the beasts are, that power is easily deflected or absorbed by the 6-paths power. Taijutsu could also be blocked by forming a shield, but Gai might be too fast in this state. But you're probably closed off to the idea of buying it at this point, so w/e.
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Something I've noticed when rereading the chuunin exams. Kakashi says that opening the 8 gates gives you power greater to that of the hokage who was Hiruzen at the time. Now he was said to be the strongest Hokage (was given the same titles as hashi etc. Raikage said he was the strongest Kage even in old age. This would make him the strongest person other than the SO6P) ever which would put him above that of hashi and Madara.
So in theory given what was stated in that early part of the manga the 8 gates would put Gai at a level where he could in fact go toe to toe with or even overwhelm Madara if my comprehension is correct.
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On March 16 2014 07:05 shark. wrote:
Something I've noticed when rereading the chuunin exams. Kakashi says that opening the 8 gates gives you power greater to that of the hokage who was Hiruzen at the time. Now he was said to be the strongest Hokage (was given the same titles as hashi etc. Raikage said he was the strongest Kage even in old age. This would make him the strongest person other than the SO6P) ever which would put him above that of hashi and Madara.
So in theory given what was stated in that early part of the manga the 8 gates would put Gai at a level where he could in fact go toe to toe with or even overwhelm Madara if my comprehension is correct.
power levels werent near established back then, Madara and Hashirama were far far stronger then the 3rd, Hashi was known as the god of Shinobi
but yeah 8 gates Gai should be equal to Madara
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It's pretty sketchy to measure how strong the 8 gates will be just because of what Kakashi said way back when, once it's paired up with ambiguous, and probably incorrect, ideas of the power of the differing Hokage. It's much simpler to just say given the context of the story, this is a stall tactic, it may injure Madara, maybe piss him off some too, but there's no way this is going anywhere. It's like the moments before Ichigo showed up against Aizen, more or less. The normal people need to step aside so the Gods can play their little game.
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In Bleach Aizen did not kill Ichigo. I'm pretty sure every character that matters already fought against Madara and got their asses handed to them.
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On March 16 2014 12:34 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 07:05 shark. wrote:
Something I've noticed when rereading the chuunin exams. Kakashi says that opening the 8 gates gives you power greater to that of the hokage who was Hiruzen at the time. Now he was said to be the strongest Hokage (was given the same titles as hashi etc. Raikage said he was the strongest Kage even in old age. This would make him the strongest person other than the SO6P) ever which would put him above that of hashi and Madara.
So in theory given what was stated in that early part of the manga the 8 gates would put Gai at a level where he could in fact go toe to toe with or even overwhelm Madara if my comprehension is correct. power levels werent near established back then, Madara and Hashirama were far far stronger then the 3rd, Hashi was known as the god of Shinobi but yeah 8 gates Gai should be equal to Madara
Actually Sarutobi was reffered to as the god of all ninja, if you re-read the konoha invasion arc
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The ending is simple guys. Sasuke and Naruto fight but they can't overcome their love of each other so they start making out instead. Then right in front of everyone they start doing the dirty, screaming "narutooooooooo" and "sasukeeeeeeeeeee". Once that's done, they get married and become the two rulers of the shinobi alliance. Sasuke eventually gets pregnant with a child who becomes the new sage of six paths because he has both aspects: the eyes and the body. The new sage and his future children rule the world and everyone is happy.
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On March 19 2014 00:08 Hyperbola wrote:
The ending is simple guys. Sasuke and Naruto fight but they can't overcome their love of each other so they start making out instead. Then right in front of everyone they start doing the dirty, screaming "narutooooooooo" and "sasukeeeeeeeeeee". Once that's done, they get married and become the two rulers of the shinobi alliance. Sasuke eventually gets pregnant with a child who becomes the new sage of six paths because he has both aspects: the eyes and the body. The new sage and his future children rule the world and everyone is happy.
You have just summed up every fanfiction ever written.
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