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On December 05 2013 16:28 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 15:11 Forikorder wrote:On December 05 2013 15:05 Zooper31 wrote:On December 05 2013 14:49 ticklishmusic wrote:On December 05 2013 14:32 Zooper31 wrote:On December 05 2013 14:18 ticklishmusic wrote: What no one mentioned is Madara's brother. I am willing to bet that he will be revived or make an appearance in some way. He's been mentioned. He's definitely dead. Being dead and being gone are entirely different in Naruto. If he comes back to life I'll literally eat my next bill that comes in the mail. hes only been shown in like 5 panels in the entire manga hes not apearing That's what makes it a good bet. He's a side character at most. translation: he knows it won't happen 100% thus he can literally bet on eating his next bill rofl.
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On December 05 2013 16:19 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 15:54 FakeDeath wrote: Sigh. Madara is the next Aizen 2.0 or Frieza.
Kishi has no choice to make Madara OP like shit even though there is plotholes regarding his powerups. Because if he doesn't,Madara will look underwhelming.
I am expecting Madara thrashing everyone in the Alliance. And then getting the Tailed Beast and become the Juubi and finally Naruto/Sasuke getting random powerups(fusion jk) to own him.
same. Madara has to be more powerful than Obito. Obito did hold back a bit because he kept trying to destroy Naruto mentally but Madara won't hold back and is likely much much stronger than Obito based on the fact that he's the final boss that they have to defeat. I do wonder though if he can just become the Juubi's host like that. I mean, he's going to take over the beasts then absorb them and fuse them together? :S
I would like to see a different scenario.
We already seen Obito become the Juubi host and trying to complete the Moon Eye Plan. Madara going through the same process of hunting down the Tailed Beast and becoming the Juubi host would be just Obito 2.0 all over again.
But sadly the latter is the most likely scenario. And Yes Madara can just become the Juubi host like that by just absorbing them and fuse them together. Although it's gonna failed miserably, since he still has to go through Naruto.
I hope people are ready to see more random powerups from Madara in the upcoming chapters even if it doesn't make sense since clearly Kishi doesn't give a damn about giving proper explanation anymore about powerups and just giving the " deal with it readers".
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On December 05 2013 16:51 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 16:19 BigFan wrote:On December 05 2013 15:54 FakeDeath wrote: Sigh. Madara is the next Aizen 2.0 or Frieza.
Kishi has no choice to make Madara OP like shit even though there is plotholes regarding his powerups. Because if he doesn't,Madara will look underwhelming.
I am expecting Madara thrashing everyone in the Alliance. And then getting the Tailed Beast and become the Juubi and finally Naruto/Sasuke getting random powerups(fusion jk) to own him.
same. Madara has to be more powerful than Obito. Obito did hold back a bit because he kept trying to destroy Naruto mentally but Madara won't hold back and is likely much much stronger than Obito based on the fact that he's the final boss that they have to defeat. I do wonder though if he can just become the Juubi's host like that. I mean, he's going to take over the beasts then absorb them and fuse them together? :S I would like to see a different scenario. We already seen Obito become the Juubi host and trying to complete the Moon Eye Plan. Madara going through the same process of hunting down the Tailed Beast and becoming the Juubi host would be just Obito 2.0 all over again. But sadly the latter is the most likely scenario. And Yes Madara can just become the Juubi host like that by just absorbing them and fuse them together. Although it's gonna failed miserably, since he still has to go through Naruto. I hope people are ready to see more random powerups from Madara in the upcoming chapters even if it doesn't make sense since clearly Kishi doesn't give a damn about giving proper explanation anymore about powerups and just giving the " deal with it readers". who knows? Maybe Madara will just control the tailed beasts and leave it at that lol. ya, it won't be the greatest if he just repeats what Obito did however unlike Obito, Madara knows what his intentions are and won't 'play' with them like Obito did.
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On December 05 2013 16:51 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 16:19 BigFan wrote:On December 05 2013 15:54 FakeDeath wrote: Sigh. Madara is the next Aizen 2.0 or Frieza.
Kishi has no choice to make Madara OP like shit even though there is plotholes regarding his powerups. Because if he doesn't,Madara will look underwhelming.
I am expecting Madara thrashing everyone in the Alliance. And then getting the Tailed Beast and become the Juubi and finally Naruto/Sasuke getting random powerups(fusion jk) to own him.
same. Madara has to be more powerful than Obito. Obito did hold back a bit because he kept trying to destroy Naruto mentally but Madara won't hold back and is likely much much stronger than Obito based on the fact that he's the final boss that they have to defeat. I do wonder though if he can just become the Juubi's host like that. I mean, he's going to take over the beasts then absorb them and fuse them together? :S I would like to see a different scenario. We already seen Obito become the Juubi host and trying to complete the Moon Eye Plan. Madara going through the same process of hunting down the Tailed Beast and becoming the Juubi host would be just Obito 2.0 all over again. But sadly the latter is the most likely scenario. And Yes Madara can just become the Juubi host like that by just absorbing them and fuse them together. Although it's gonna failed miserably, since he still has to go through Naruto. I hope people are ready to see more random powerups from Madara in the upcoming chapters even if it doesn't make sense since clearly Kishi doesn't give a damn about giving proper explanation anymore about powerups and just giving the " deal with it readers". maybe hes just going to feed them to the big tree one after the other?
no need to eat them the tree is still up and can eat them itself
even if he could absorb the Bijuus the Gedou would still be "inside" Obito and he doesnt seem to care about his body, so hes not really planning to become the Jyuubis Jinchuuriki at this pooint though i think all the flower needs is a ton of power in order to finish blooming
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guys some questions.
1. why can't hashirama move? is it because of those black sticks on his back? when did madara put those? when hashirama got him with the wooden dragon or earlier?
2. what did obito's rinne tensei no jutsu do in chapter 656 before he got caught by black zetsu? or was it interrupted by zetsu?
thanks
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On December 06 2013 05:17 Levistus wrote: guys some questions.
1. why can't hashirama move? is it because of those black sticks on his back? when did madara put those? when hashirama got him with the wooden dragon or earlier?
2. what did obito's rinne tensei no jutsu do in chapter 656 before he got caught by black zetsu? or was it interrupted by zetsu?
thanks
He jumped on Hashirama and sucked all his chakra out and then those black rods came flying into his body to his back. Same rods Pain used so they are presumably sucking chakra constantly and making him unable to move.
Zetsu took over his body and made him cast the jutsu on Madara. How else did he come back to life randomly?
Cmon man read the chapter again lol.
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actually Hashi was already locked with those black rods before Madara sucking Senju chakra out of him, was surprised, as well because I couldn't remember when he immobilized him.
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I find it hard to believe that Madra can do all of this crazy shit without any eyes. I mean without their eyes, Uchiha are kinda shit. And kishimoto still hasn't explained how Madra got a powerup when he turned human.
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On December 06 2013 09:17 Hyperbola wrote: I find it hard to believe that Madra can do all of this crazy shit without any eyes. I mean without their eyes, Uchiha are kinda shit. And kishimoto still hasn't explained how Madra got a powerup when he turned human. Dont expect anything about kishimoto explaining buddy. Naruto has become the king of plotholes like how shingeki no kyojin became the anime with zero plotarmor. Just enjoy the ride and deal with it.
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Madara and Hashi must have double KO'd each other
I find it hard to believe that Madra can do all of this crazy shit without any eyes. I mean without their eyes, Uchiha are kinda shit. And kishimoto still hasn't explained how Madra got a powerup when he turned human.
he already explained it, the person ressurected by the edo tensei is limited by the technique, and while hes powerful, the second doesnt come close to the 1st and Madara so why would a (probably) incomplete version of a technique he made cast by someone weaker then he is be able to bring back Madara to 100%?
as to how Madara is still OWNING without eyes, just when it comes to pure power hes miles above every ninja on the field and he can still seem to somewhat use the Rinnegan abilities (he absorbed Sasukes Amaterasu) so while hes not at 100% its still enough to kick ass
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On December 06 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:Madara and Hashi must have double KO'd each other Show nested quote + I find it hard to believe that Madra can do all of this crazy shit without any eyes. I mean without their eyes, Uchiha are kinda shit. And kishimoto still hasn't explained how Madra got a powerup when he turned human.
he already explained it, the person ressurected by the edo tensei is limited by the technique, and while hes powerful, the second doesnt come close to the 1st and Madara so why would a (probably) incomplete version of a technique he made cast by someone weaker then he is be able to bring back Madara to 100%? as to how Madara is still OWNING without eyes, just when it comes to pure power hes miles above every ninja on the field and he can still seem to somewhat use the Rinnegan abilities (he absorbed Sasukes Amaterasu) so while hes not at 100% its still enough to kick ass
Don't think he's shown the true power of the ultimate Susan'o yet either. And he's not used any major eye powers at all. Hell he could have another power only he himself has awakened yet to show off.
The best thing that could happen right now imo for the manga is that Madara just goes bezerk and starts offing people left and right and actually killing a couple named characters, probably 1-2 kages at least and then he finally acknowledges Naruto. And hes just like "sup" after killing the last person. I just want him to be brutal and show the world why he is Madara.
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On December 06 2013 13:52 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:Madara and Hashi must have double KO'd each other I find it hard to believe that Madra can do all of this crazy shit without any eyes. I mean without their eyes, Uchiha are kinda shit. And kishimoto still hasn't explained how Madra got a powerup when he turned human.
he already explained it, the person ressurected by the edo tensei is limited by the technique, and while hes powerful, the second doesnt come close to the 1st and Madara so why would a (probably) incomplete version of a technique he made cast by someone weaker then he is be able to bring back Madara to 100%? as to how Madara is still OWNING without eyes, just when it comes to pure power hes miles above every ninja on the field and he can still seem to somewhat use the Rinnegan abilities (he absorbed Sasukes Amaterasu) so while hes not at 100% its still enough to kick ass Don't think he's shown the true power of the ultimate Susan'o yet either. And he's not used any major eye powers at all. Hell he could have another power only he himself has awakened yet to show off. The best thing that could happen right now imo for the manga is that Madara just goes bezerk and starts offing people left and right and actually killing a couple named characters, probably 1-2 kages at least and then he finally acknowledges Naruto. And hes just like "sup" after killing the last person. I just want him to be brutal and show the world why he is Madara. As much as I would love to see Madara do that, to show just how OP he was and wreck havoc on everyone, I feel like Kishi will limit him to the tailed beasts before they eventually deal with him. I mean, he does tell the beasts that he's coming for them or something in the last page. What a character. Even with his eyes closed, he's wrecking some havoc and going up against an entire army with tailed beasts wtf is this lol
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On December 06 2013 13:52 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:Madara and Hashi must have double KO'd each other I find it hard to believe that Madra can do all of this crazy shit without any eyes. I mean without their eyes, Uchiha are kinda shit. And kishimoto still hasn't explained how Madra got a powerup when he turned human.
he already explained it, the person ressurected by the edo tensei is limited by the technique, and while hes powerful, the second doesnt come close to the 1st and Madara so why would a (probably) incomplete version of a technique he made cast by someone weaker then he is be able to bring back Madara to 100%? as to how Madara is still OWNING without eyes, just when it comes to pure power hes miles above every ninja on the field and he can still seem to somewhat use the Rinnegan abilities (he absorbed Sasukes Amaterasu) so while hes not at 100% its still enough to kick ass Don't think he's shown the true power of the ultimate Susan'o yet either. And he's not used any major eye powers at all. Hell he could have another power only he himself has awakened yet to show off. The best thing that could happen right now imo for the manga is that Madara just goes bezerk and starts offing people left and right and actually killing a couple named characters, probably 1-2 kages at least and then he finally acknowledges Naruto. And hes just like "sup" after killing the last person. I just want him to be brutal and show the world why he is Madara. Madaras whole plan was made to bring peace and happiness to maximum amount of people so im pretty sure hes not going to turn on masacre mode anytime soon
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On December 06 2013 14:13 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 13:52 Zooper31 wrote:On December 06 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:Madara and Hashi must have double KO'd each other I find it hard to believe that Madra can do all of this crazy shit without any eyes. I mean without their eyes, Uchiha are kinda shit. And kishimoto still hasn't explained how Madra got a powerup when he turned human.
he already explained it, the person ressurected by the edo tensei is limited by the technique, and while hes powerful, the second doesnt come close to the 1st and Madara so why would a (probably) incomplete version of a technique he made cast by someone weaker then he is be able to bring back Madara to 100%? as to how Madara is still OWNING without eyes, just when it comes to pure power hes miles above every ninja on the field and he can still seem to somewhat use the Rinnegan abilities (he absorbed Sasukes Amaterasu) so while hes not at 100% its still enough to kick ass Don't think he's shown the true power of the ultimate Susan'o yet either. And he's not used any major eye powers at all. Hell he could have another power only he himself has awakened yet to show off. The best thing that could happen right now imo for the manga is that Madara just goes bezerk and starts offing people left and right and actually killing a couple named characters, probably 1-2 kages at least and then he finally acknowledges Naruto. And hes just like "sup" after killing the last person. I just want him to be brutal and show the world why he is Madara. Madaras whole plan was made to bring peace and happiness to maximum amount of people so im pretty sure hes not going to turn on masacre mode anytime soon but but, we want to see OP Madara and Susano! If all he does is just go around targetting the tailed beasts and trapping them into the tree for infinite Tsukuyomi or something, I'm going to be very disappointed XD
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What if Madara win this war and use the moon eye plan to create Aizen's shikai and this whole manga is about Aizen showing ichigo his history?
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On December 06 2013 15:19 phodacbiet wrote: What if Madara win this war and use the moon eye plan to create Aizen's shikai and this whole manga is about Aizen showing ichigo his history? and what if the soul king is actually named D and is in charge of guarding one piece?
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On December 06 2013 15:28 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 15:19 phodacbiet wrote: What if Madara win this war and use the moon eye plan to create Aizen's shikai and this whole manga is about Aizen showing ichigo his history? and what if the soul king is actually named D and is in charge of guarding one piece? and what if they were all inside bu's stomache ?
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Isn't the Madara wants peace in the world a lie to lure Obito? To me, he just wanted a way to have a body once again and it somehow worked, because he wasn't even dead when he planned that thing.
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On December 06 2013 20:37 Lysteria wrote: Isn't the Madara wants peace in the world a lie to lure Obito? To me, he just wanted a way to have a body once again and it somehow worked, because he wasn't even dead when he planned that thing. he just said that everything is not going well for him. His plans are not being followed. He still has the same plan as obito does but he wanted to be the host not obito.
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On December 06 2013 14:13 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2013 13:52 Zooper31 wrote:On December 06 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:Madara and Hashi must have double KO'd each other I find it hard to believe that Madra can do all of this crazy shit without any eyes. I mean without their eyes, Uchiha are kinda shit. And kishimoto still hasn't explained how Madra got a powerup when he turned human.
he already explained it, the person ressurected by the edo tensei is limited by the technique, and while hes powerful, the second doesnt come close to the 1st and Madara so why would a (probably) incomplete version of a technique he made cast by someone weaker then he is be able to bring back Madara to 100%? as to how Madara is still OWNING without eyes, just when it comes to pure power hes miles above every ninja on the field and he can still seem to somewhat use the Rinnegan abilities (he absorbed Sasukes Amaterasu) so while hes not at 100% its still enough to kick ass Don't think he's shown the true power of the ultimate Susan'o yet either. And he's not used any major eye powers at all. Hell he could have another power only he himself has awakened yet to show off. The best thing that could happen right now imo for the manga is that Madara just goes bezerk and starts offing people left and right and actually killing a couple named characters, probably 1-2 kages at least and then he finally acknowledges Naruto. And hes just like "sup" after killing the last person. I just want him to be brutal and show the world why he is Madara. Madaras whole plan was made to bring peace and happiness to maximum amount of people so im pretty sure hes not going to turn on masacre mode anytime soon Well, you'd think so, but we'll see. Madara's brother was mentioned, but I remember him having 4 brothers, that all died one by one, which drove Madara into his incurable madness, and to do the Moon's Eye Plan, I think it was the last of his brothers that he took his new eyes from, gaining an Eternal Mangekyou. I think, I don't remember exactly though, which is why I wish they'd go more into that. Knowing his painful history would let us empathize with him more as a character, and the best villains are always relatable in some fundamental way. Shit.
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