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Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
December 04 2013 09:28 GMT
#15901
What if the entire war was a genjutsu and after Madara's win, they'll all wake up and go to war once again, but this time knowing they will lose, and it will take three more years for Kishimoto to draw it.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
December 04 2013 09:53 GMT
#15902
On December 04 2013 17:47 amaDeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 17:18 NewSunshine wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:11 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If Edo Tenseis are actually weak then they should have mentioned that earlier so we wouldn't have to care about all the fights at the beginning of the war. Not like anyone had to tryhard to defeat them.

The anime made a bigger deal about all the small fry fights than the manga, but this isn't true at all. The revived people may only be at, say, 60-70% power (just to make a point), still enough to pose a huge threat if you choose the right targets. And with someone like Madara, that last 30% is huge.

As for outright saying it, they've dropped hints here and there, such the second mentioning being restored 'nearly to full power', and I'd prefer not to have someone just blurt it out for no reason, it starts to feel more like Bleach at that point.


So far ok but how can Madara possibly win against hashirama, the bijuus, naruto and sasuke, the 5 hokages and 50000 fodder ninjas? Huge asspull incoming. I didn't get much joy reading the chapter but everyone to himself
And it's kinda ridiculous that hashirama is so weak atm when Madara is shown to be so strong. Blabla greater than his prime ok, but the strongest shinobi of all time should at least be at equal strength.

Well, I don't have a crystal ball, just ideas and a memory that's held onto all the important bits so far. As for the 5 kage and the fodder ninja, he's already shown that he can crush them with little effort, using powers that are just out of their league. He's apparently still capable of absorbing chakra, as he absorbed the 1st's powers, and rendered him seemingly useless. If all this holds, that leaves Naruto, Sasuke, and the Bijuu, and the struggle will surely focus on that. Will Madara be able to coerce the bijuu to do his bidding, like he did with the kyuubi in the past, and become the juubi's host finally, or can Naruto pull something off, given the bonds he has with them? And of course, he can combine powers with Sasuke like he's already done.

Remember, the Uchiha and the Senju are direct offhshoots of the sage of six paths, and have very effective powers for dealing with tailed beasts. The Senju's powers let them subdue a tailed beast, where the Uchiha can control them outright. Madara has both now. I don't think they'll pose that big a threat to him honestly.
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Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
December 04 2013 11:22 GMT
#15903
On December 04 2013 18:53 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 17:47 amaDeus wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:18 NewSunshine wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:11 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If Edo Tenseis are actually weak then they should have mentioned that earlier so we wouldn't have to care about all the fights at the beginning of the war. Not like anyone had to tryhard to defeat them.

The anime made a bigger deal about all the small fry fights than the manga, but this isn't true at all. The revived people may only be at, say, 60-70% power (just to make a point), still enough to pose a huge threat if you choose the right targets. And with someone like Madara, that last 30% is huge.

As for outright saying it, they've dropped hints here and there, such the second mentioning being restored 'nearly to full power', and I'd prefer not to have someone just blurt it out for no reason, it starts to feel more like Bleach at that point.


So far ok but how can Madara possibly win against hashirama, the bijuus, naruto and sasuke, the 5 hokages and 50000 fodder ninjas? Huge asspull incoming. I didn't get much joy reading the chapter but everyone to himself
And it's kinda ridiculous that hashirama is so weak atm when Madara is shown to be so strong. Blabla greater than his prime ok, but the strongest shinobi of all time should at least be at equal strength.

Well, I don't have a crystal ball, just ideas and a memory that's held onto all the important bits so far. As for the 5 kage and the fodder ninja, he's already shown that he can crush them with little effort, using powers that are just out of their league. He's apparently still capable of absorbing chakra, as he absorbed the 1st's powers, and rendered him seemingly useless. If all this holds, that leaves Naruto, Sasuke, and the Bijuu, and the struggle will surely focus on that. Will Madara be able to coerce the bijuu to do his bidding, like he did with the kyuubi in the past, and become the juubi's host finally, or can Naruto pull something off, given the bonds he has with them? And of course, he can combine powers with Sasuke like he's already done.

Remember, the Uchiha and the Senju are direct offhshoots of the sage of six paths, and have very effective powers for dealing with tailed beasts. The Senju's powers let them subdue a tailed beast, where the Uchiha can control them outright. Madara has both now. I don't think they'll pose that big a threat to him honestly.


Inb4 Naruto becomes the Juubi because of his bond with them after Madara tries to just control them or some bs.

I'm a little confused about what happened with Sasuke's eye though this chapter. Madara was saying it was a straight comma. Do we know what that is? The impression I get is that it's pretty much a perfect sharingan or something, but that was something I don't remember hearing before and something that kind of pulled me out of the epicness of the chapter.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
December 04 2013 11:30 GMT
#15904
What about the extra special edo tensei Kabuto used to revive Madara?
I clearly remember them saying Madara was revived stronger than in his prime(in addition of edo tensei unlimited chakra and body regeneration). He revived properly now, and is somehow unable to use his eyes and even stronger. Despite his inability to use his eyes.

Didn't know he was daredevil, too.
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Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
December 04 2013 11:51 GMT
#15905
On December 04 2013 20:30 Mataza wrote:
What about the extra special edo tensei Kabuto used to revive Madara?
I clearly remember them saying Madara was revived stronger than in his prime(in addition of edo tensei unlimited chakra and body regeneration). He revived properly now, and is somehow unable to use his eyes and even stronger. Despite his inability to use his eyes.

Either Kabuto told bullshit when he was saying those edo tensei guys were stronger than in their prime, or everyone is dead tired (including those edo tensei Hokage). Final possibility is Kishimoto said, screw logic, we need a legit final boss.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 04 2013 12:17 GMT
#15906
Madara looks imba now because Naruto's talk no jutsu is in cool down.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
December 04 2013 13:19 GMT
#15907
this uchiha + senju = overpowered
sasuke + naruto fusion incoming
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 04 2013 13:30 GMT
#15908
On December 04 2013 17:05 SilverSkyLark wrote:

AND FUCKING FINALLY, MINATO AND KAKASHI FINALLY THOUGHT OF ATTACKING ZETSU.


lol, I was thinking about that too. But they need a plot device to have Madara revived.

It would have been more dramatic (and made more sense) to have black Zetsu try to assimilate Obito right away and have the revival complete right before say the 4th teleports over and dices up Obito like the first time they tried to do that. Unfortunately Kishi still need a way for Madara to get his Rinnegan back so instead we have Minato and Kakashi stare blankly at Zetsu do what he pleases.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 04 2013 13:31 GMT
#15909
On December 04 2013 22:19 GizmoPT wrote:
this uchiha + senju = overpowered
sasuke + naruto fusion incoming


I like where your head's at.

Nothing would be more appropriate than to have this manga go full DBZ at the end of this arc.
GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
December 04 2013 14:39 GMT
#15910
Anyone else secretly hoping Madara wins? lol
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
December 04 2013 14:46 GMT
#15911
On December 04 2013 23:39 GrapeApe wrote:
Anyone else secretly hoping Madara wins? lol

There is no saving naruto. So yes you are not alone in this.

I was actually been rooting for Tobi when he was not known as Obito yet and became absolutely lame. My friends find it weird that i root for the villain.
this is a quote
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
December 04 2013 14:53 GMT
#15912
On December 04 2013 17:18 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 17:11 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If Edo Tenseis are actually weak then they should have mentioned that earlier so we wouldn't have to care about all the fights at the beginning of the war. Not like anyone had to tryhard to defeat them.

The anime made a bigger deal about all the small fry fights than the manga, but this isn't true at all. The revived people may only be at, say, 60-70% power (just to make a point), still enough to pose a huge threat if you choose the right targets. And with someone like Madara, that last 30% is huge.

As for outright saying it, they've dropped hints here and there, such the second mentioning being restored 'nearly to full power', and I'd prefer not to have someone just blurt it out for no reason, it starts to feel more like Bleach at that point.



I'm 99% sure that when madara is summoned there is a conversation between him and and Kabuto where he says that he has been summoned ''way beyond his prime''.


This is just a random (ass pulled) power up.
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Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
December 04 2013 15:04 GMT
#15913
On December 04 2013 23:53 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 17:18 NewSunshine wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:11 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If Edo Tenseis are actually weak then they should have mentioned that earlier so we wouldn't have to care about all the fights at the beginning of the war. Not like anyone had to tryhard to defeat them.

The anime made a bigger deal about all the small fry fights than the manga, but this isn't true at all. The revived people may only be at, say, 60-70% power (just to make a point), still enough to pose a huge threat if you choose the right targets. And with someone like Madara, that last 30% is huge.

As for outright saying it, they've dropped hints here and there, such the second mentioning being restored 'nearly to full power', and I'd prefer not to have someone just blurt it out for no reason, it starts to feel more like Bleach at that point.



I'm 99% sure that when madara is summoned there is a conversation between him and and Kabuto where he says that he has been summoned ''way beyond his prime''.


This is just a random (ass pulled) power up.

At this point it shouldn't come as a surprise when people get random power-ups. Also spoiler alert: Naruto is probably going to win by some combination of said random power-up and talk no jutsu.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
December 04 2013 15:15 GMT
#15914
On December 05 2013 00:04 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 23:53 DDie wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:18 NewSunshine wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:11 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If Edo Tenseis are actually weak then they should have mentioned that earlier so we wouldn't have to care about all the fights at the beginning of the war. Not like anyone had to tryhard to defeat them.

The anime made a bigger deal about all the small fry fights than the manga, but this isn't true at all. The revived people may only be at, say, 60-70% power (just to make a point), still enough to pose a huge threat if you choose the right targets. And with someone like Madara, that last 30% is huge.

As for outright saying it, they've dropped hints here and there, such the second mentioning being restored 'nearly to full power', and I'd prefer not to have someone just blurt it out for no reason, it starts to feel more like Bleach at that point.



I'm 99% sure that when madara is summoned there is a conversation between him and and Kabuto where he says that he has been summoned ''way beyond his prime''.


This is just a random (ass pulled) power up.

At this point it shouldn't come as a surprise when people get random power-ups. Also spoiler alert: Naruto is probably going to win by some combination of said random power-up and talk no jutsu.

No need for random power-ups. Talk no jutsu takes care of everything. Remember what happened to the equivalent of Sage of Six Path in terms of power namely Juubito he got talked !
this is a quote
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
December 04 2013 15:23 GMT
#15915
On December 05 2013 00:15 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 00:04 Prog455 wrote:
On December 04 2013 23:53 DDie wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:18 NewSunshine wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:11 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If Edo Tenseis are actually weak then they should have mentioned that earlier so we wouldn't have to care about all the fights at the beginning of the war. Not like anyone had to tryhard to defeat them.

The anime made a bigger deal about all the small fry fights than the manga, but this isn't true at all. The revived people may only be at, say, 60-70% power (just to make a point), still enough to pose a huge threat if you choose the right targets. And with someone like Madara, that last 30% is huge.

As for outright saying it, they've dropped hints here and there, such the second mentioning being restored 'nearly to full power', and I'd prefer not to have someone just blurt it out for no reason, it starts to feel more like Bleach at that point.



I'm 99% sure that when madara is summoned there is a conversation between him and and Kabuto where he says that he has been summoned ''way beyond his prime''.


This is just a random (ass pulled) power up.

At this point it shouldn't come as a surprise when people get random power-ups. Also spoiler alert: Naruto is probably going to win by some combination of said random power-up and talk no jutsu.

No need for random power-ups. Talk no jutsu takes care of everything. Remember what happened to the equivalent of Sage of Six Path in terms of power namely Juubito he got talked !


Madara will make himself def to counter talk-no-jutsu your play naruto..
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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
December 04 2013 15:27 GMT
#15916
Can't help but to hope that Orichimaru will join this fight with a huge powerup as well
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 04 2013 15:30 GMT
#15917
Well, the jutsu was supposed to bring Madara back to life, but it was never said it restores his original body. When the villagers were revived, it seemed as if their souls returned to their body and they started living again. Madara has been dead for so long, his body probably doesn't even exist anymore.

Besides, Madara died more or less of old age, so if he would come back in his own body, then it would be as an old man too old to fight.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 16:04:11
December 04 2013 16:03 GMT
#15918
On December 04 2013 20:30 Mataza wrote:
What about the extra special edo tensei Kabuto used to revive Madara?
I clearly remember them saying Madara was revived stronger than in his prime(in addition of edo tensei unlimited chakra and body regeneration). He revived properly now, and is somehow unable to use his eyes and even stronger. Despite his inability to use his eyes.

Didn't know he was daredevil, too.

he probably underestimated how strong Madara truly was, he brought him back super powerful and added more power to him and thought that there was no way he wasnt even stronger then that

remember what the 2nd said when Oro first used it he didnt use it right so he and his brother came back weak, so while Kabuto used a more complete version still wasnt enough to bring back Madara and Hashi at full power
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
December 04 2013 16:10 GMT
#15919
On December 05 2013 00:23 GizmoPT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 00:15 goody153 wrote:
On December 05 2013 00:04 Prog455 wrote:
On December 04 2013 23:53 DDie wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:18 NewSunshine wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:11 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If Edo Tenseis are actually weak then they should have mentioned that earlier so we wouldn't have to care about all the fights at the beginning of the war. Not like anyone had to tryhard to defeat them.

The anime made a bigger deal about all the small fry fights than the manga, but this isn't true at all. The revived people may only be at, say, 60-70% power (just to make a point), still enough to pose a huge threat if you choose the right targets. And with someone like Madara, that last 30% is huge.

As for outright saying it, they've dropped hints here and there, such the second mentioning being restored 'nearly to full power', and I'd prefer not to have someone just blurt it out for no reason, it starts to feel more like Bleach at that point.



I'm 99% sure that when madara is summoned there is a conversation between him and and Kabuto where he says that he has been summoned ''way beyond his prime''.


This is just a random (ass pulled) power up.

At this point it shouldn't come as a surprise when people get random power-ups. Also spoiler alert: Naruto is probably going to win by some combination of said random power-up and talk no jutsu.

No need for random power-ups. Talk no jutsu takes care of everything. Remember what happened to the equivalent of Sage of Six Path in terms of power namely Juubito he got talked !


Madara will make himself def to counter talk-no-jutsu your play naruto..

nah i dont think so. Naruto's talk no jutsu just too strong.
this is a quote
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
December 04 2013 16:49 GMT
#15920
On December 05 2013 01:10 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 00:23 GizmoPT wrote:
On December 05 2013 00:15 goody153 wrote:
On December 05 2013 00:04 Prog455 wrote:
On December 04 2013 23:53 DDie wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:18 NewSunshine wrote:
On December 04 2013 17:11 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
If Edo Tenseis are actually weak then they should have mentioned that earlier so we wouldn't have to care about all the fights at the beginning of the war. Not like anyone had to tryhard to defeat them.

The anime made a bigger deal about all the small fry fights than the manga, but this isn't true at all. The revived people may only be at, say, 60-70% power (just to make a point), still enough to pose a huge threat if you choose the right targets. And with someone like Madara, that last 30% is huge.

As for outright saying it, they've dropped hints here and there, such the second mentioning being restored 'nearly to full power', and I'd prefer not to have someone just blurt it out for no reason, it starts to feel more like Bleach at that point.



I'm 99% sure that when madara is summoned there is a conversation between him and and Kabuto where he says that he has been summoned ''way beyond his prime''.


This is just a random (ass pulled) power up.

At this point it shouldn't come as a surprise when people get random power-ups. Also spoiler alert: Naruto is probably going to win by some combination of said random power-up and talk no jutsu.

No need for random power-ups. Talk no jutsu takes care of everything. Remember what happened to the equivalent of Sage of Six Path in terms of power namely Juubito he got talked !


Madara will make himself def to counter talk-no-jutsu your play naruto..

nah i dont think so. Naruto's talk no jutsu just too strong.

Yeah, there is definitely the possibility that Naruto will come inside Madara, too. Like he did with Obito.

Phrasing on purpose, by the way.
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