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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 03 2009 16:21 OSWater wrote: God, when did Naruto start sucking? I can't put my finger on it.. Also, well never see most of these characters ever again. I guarantee it. After the chuunin exams. | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
Just cut the crap and get on with the action. It'll be awesome watching Sasuke vs Gaara again. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
pretty much this, it was soo good, now its just a pile of poop | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
and that is one asshole ninja right there, how could naruto speak he had a forearm up his throat. holy shit was that the 4th hokage? | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 03 2009 20:56 Scaramanga wrote: pretty much this, it was soo good, now its just a pile of poop In the show's defense, Naruto vs. Sasuke was a fucking epic battle with really great animation in a lot of the parts. That battle is pretty much the reason I started watching/reading Naruto. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 04 2009 01:20 fanatacist wrote: In the show's defense, Naruto vs. Sasuke was a fucking epic battle with really great animation in a lot of the parts. That battle is pretty much the reason I started watching/reading Naruto. Well the Animation and Manga does have flashes of brilliance during fights. Kakashi vs Kakuzu Sasuke vs Deidera Pain vs Naruto Pain vs Jiraiya. Sasuke vs Naruto ro1 Naruto vs Gaara Naruto vs Neji As much as I don't like Sasuke as a character he certainly has a flair when he fights. Kishimoto is pretty damn good at the fights but his plot tends to be all over the place | ||
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Phantom
Canada2151 Posts
I don't get how this has turned into some 'Gandhi peace shit', uh they've been trying to avoid war for quite some time now. 'hate begets more hate', not just Gandhi...but I mean naruto has always been about the philosophical out look on being a ninja and what the 'way of the ninja' is. This stretches all the way back to when they were against Haku and Zabuza. You might not like how the direction of the discussion has gone, nor feel like Naruto is the proper medium for such a discussion, or narrative i guess in this case, but it's been there the entire time. So i'm not sure if you guys are mad at Naruto's conclusions, or the fact that the issue is even brought up... | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 04 2009 01:40 Jayme wrote: Well the Animation and Manga does have flashes of brilliance during fights. Kakashi vs Kakuzu Sasuke vs Deidera Pain vs Naruto Pain vs Jiraiya. Sasuke vs Naruto ro1 Naruto vs Gaara Naruto vs Neji As much as I don't like Sasuke as a character he certainly has a flair when he fights. Kishimoto is pretty damn good at the fights but his plot tends to be all over the place And overly dramatic. A few chapters on a person's death/ceremony/post-death is lol. And drawn-out to shit. How fucking long is it gonna be before Naruto and Sasuke fight again for fuck's sake? Jesus I know that's probably the hook of the plot to keep viewers/readers interested but come on. And unnecessarily comlex at parts. EDIT: And also, I know so many people hate Sasuke... But he's actually either my favorite or second-favorite (to Kakashi) character in the story. IMO he has the coolest abilities, he seems to be innovative, intelligent, a bit too emo but not without reason (also remember that he is what 16? 17? right now), great fighter, highest mastery of sharingan (except Madara but we haven't seen much of that besides the de-materializing thing which I do think is a sharingan ability), and conflicts/personality that I can relate with better than with Naruto the bumbling idiot who is turning into a pacifist and future 40-year-old virgin. | ||
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ryuu_
United States1266 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 04 2009 01:52 Phantom wrote: I don't get how this has turned into some 'Gandhi peace shit', uh they've been trying to avoid war for quite some time now. 'hate begets more hate', not just Gandhi...but I mean naruto has always been about the philosophical out look on being a ninja and what the 'way of the ninja' is. This stretches all the way back to when they were against Haku and Zabuza. You might not like how the direction of the discussion has gone, nor feel like Naruto is the proper medium for such a discussion, or narrative i guess in this case, but it's been there the entire time. So i'm not sure if you guys are mad at Naruto's conclusions, or the fact that the issue is even brought up... I'm saying that it's turning from medium-level pussy shit (everyone crying at deaths and at working hard and at inter-personal relations and a puppy-love type crush scenario on top of a best-friend conflict emphasis, into a high-level pussy shit plot because now Naruto is taking a beating in a manner similar to Gandhi who refused to fight back. Notice how I said "Naruto is turning into..." It's literally what I meant, Naruto the character is getting that like "stop the hate man just beat the fuck out of me and don't hurt my friend, I am such a selfless mature being hurrr" attitude going (not disrespecting Gandhi, just pointing out the parallel). Although you could say via transitive property that since the show is pretty much about Naruto (hence the title?), then his turning into a hippy makes the show turn into a hippy show too. EDIT : God I am high. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 04 2009 02:19 fanatacist wrote: EDIT: And also, I know so many people hate Sasuke... But he's actually either my favorite or second-favorite (to Kakashi) character in the story. IMO he has the coolest abilities, he seems to be innovative, intelligent, a bit too emo but not without reason (also remember that he is what 16? 17? right now), great fighter, highest mastery of sharingan (except Madara but we haven't seen much of that besides the de-materializing thing which I do think is a sharingan ability), and conflicts/personality that I can relate with better than with Naruto the bumbling idiot who is turning into a pacifist and future 40-year-old virgin. I think the reason people generally hate Sasuke is that he gives the impression that he's the only person in the world who has had it rough in his life. That and Madara is quite easily manipulating Sasuke into doing what Madara himself wants. Also he's angsty and I personally hate angst a lot. I like it when Sasuke fights though, he shows innovation and intelligence generally only seen with the bad guys.... though I guess Sasuke could be considered one. Kishimoto likes to desolve peoples intelligence to suit the plot lines and that's really annoying. Naruto showed some major insight during the fight with Pain and now he's nearly completely regressed into the bumbling fool he was before... instead this time he's not going to sell out a "friend" who put a chidori through his chest because "hate begets more hate." Blah.. blah... Blah. I'll finish just to finish I suppose. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Cape = Awesome. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 04 2009 03:07 King K. Rool wrote: This manga would be so much cooler if Naruto kept his freaking cape. Cape = Awesome. It was a COAT! A long COAT! | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On July 04 2009 02:49 Jayme wrote: I think the reason people generally hate Sasuke is that he gives the impression that he's the only person in the world who has had it rough in his life. That and Madara is quite easily manipulating Sasuke into doing what Madara himself wants. Also he's angsty and I personally hate angst a lot. I like it when Sasuke fights though, he shows innovation and intelligence generally only seen with the bad guys.... though I guess Sasuke could be considered one. Kishimoto likes to desolve peoples intelligence to suit the plot lines and that's really annoying. Naruto showed some major insight during the fight with Pain and now he's nearly completely regressed into the bumbling fool he was before... instead this time he's not going to sell out a "friend" who put a chidori through his chest because "hate begets more hate." Blah.. blah... Blah. I'll finish just to finish I suppose. I completely agree with the points you bring up, but like I said people can relate to that (I think) - "every man thinks his burden is the heaviest." Madara is clearly using Sasuke to do what he wants but if you pay attention to details (Madara recently popping up to Sasuke from doing what Sasuke wants, Sasuke always plotting things for his own ends and not Madara's, etc.) it makes it obvious that it's not a mental control, it's more of "I am stronger than you and I want to use you so I am going to" control that has a tendency to be broken in Animes including Naruto. That is also true, but it mostly happens to Naruto. With almost every other character I see a linear progression in terms of abilities/intelligence. | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Regardless, it still made him look way more badass. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
oh wait he can burn gaara with black fire | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
I can't believe how bad the anime fucked up the Sasori fight Was my favourite part in the manga then they shit all over it. Was terrible. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 04 2009 05:22 rei wrote: since sasuke can no longer fly any more, how can he reach gaara if gaara decide to fly 2 miles above ground and just sand sink 5 square miles of land? oh wait he can burn gaara with black fire good ninjas can jump like all the way into outer space | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
Naruto trying to be smart and mature just isn't cool  But the chapter was just introducing some new characters so can't complain too much, the chapters before it were pretty awesome after all. | ||
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