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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18625 Posts
August 13 2012 11:56 GMT
#10021
On August 13 2012 20:34 AXygnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 08:16 Dosey wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
Yay, more deliberate vagueness on Kishi's part over Tobi's identity.

Obito's eye yes, but his body/mind/soul? Dun dun dunnnnnn.

Almost as bad as Kubo having a mysterious character kill a Sternritter and put a sword to Urahara's face and then completely abandon the reveal.


Bleach's new arc has been great so far.


lol no
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
August 13 2012 12:11 GMT
#10022
On August 13 2012 09:37 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:21 TheBamf wrote:
Fucking reveal Tobi already!


Just 1, 2 weeks tops.


Calling it, his identity will be revealed in chapter 600.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 13 2012 12:20 GMT
#10023
This past week's issue was cool, but I really want the issue of Tobi's identity resolved already.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 22:02:56
August 13 2012 21:14 GMT
#10024
On August 12 2012 13:24 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 13:19 Slaughter wrote:
I think someone just ganked Obitos eye. Eye farming has come up a decent amount so why not Obito's too? Everyone would of known Obito was capable of Sharingan because right before he died he managed to awaken it and Kakashi was running around with it.

judging by Tobis collection i wouldnt be surprised if he was present every time an Uchiha died or manged to access the corpse before there Sharingan was destroyed

with Sharingan he could trick autopsys and those ninja whos job is to destroy the body so the missing sharingan would never be reported

most likely he was trying to find a sharingan like Obitos which could control space time or one with some other ability

im still rpetty annoyed that such an OP ability like Tobis comes from a sharingan though dont see why it couldnt jsut be a ninjutsu he invented

although i do like the symatrey, for the MS one eye fires the Tsukyomi which is a very passive sort of attack and the other fires the Amaterasu which is a very direct sort of attack so it makes sense that one of Obitos eyes transfers the user to a different dimension passively dealing with things and the other transfers a target to a different dimension directly dealing with things

im starting to think Tobi might be Kakashis father, at this point pretty much anyone who could be Tobi is dead so somsone faked there death somewhere along the line

Kakashis dad has a serious grudge against wars and such since it was because of war he made that decision that turned everyone against him

Kakashis dad died and everyone pretty much forgot about him and stopped telling people about him (hence why Obito didnt know of him) plus he didnt die in active duty but by suicide (kinda odd that someone who cared so much for his comrades would suicide) essentially Kakashis dad became a "noone" and was forgotten by everyone

he definently has the motive to want to do waht Tobi is planning, and a good reason to keep his identity hidden and would explain why he was caught by Itachi sneaking around the Uchihas secret places (an uchiha wouldnt have to be sneaking around) he knew hed need a powerful genjutsu to pull of his plan and when you say Genjutsu you think Uchihas

and it would explain why he was there when Obito died, since it was Kakashis first mission as a captain so he wanted to watch him and see what would happen


Edit: I had not yet read some of the other posts. Oops.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#10025
On August 13 2012 20:47 shark. wrote:
It would not surpirse me at all i it was obito had gotten that strong as he awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoe in each eye and read the stone dude tiajutsu easy.

I wonder what the chances of Obito's last thoughts and emotions would have been enough for his mangekyou sharingan to activate allowing him to space time his ass outta there.

he didnt kill nor cause the death of anyone close to him nor did anyone even die there at all so if that did awaken his MS it would completely reqrite the rules of MS
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
August 13 2012 23:38 GMT
#10026
On August 12 2012 13:30 ixi.genocide wrote:
I still find it hard to believe that Obito accomplished what he did in such a short amount of time. I definitely think that Tobi has some parts of Obito, especially his eye.


Ye, impossible....

Naruto went from not being able to summon a bunshin to summoning gamabunta in what, 6 months?

Set it ablaze!
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
August 13 2012 23:39 GMT
#10027
On August 13 2012 20:56 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 20:34 AXygnus wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:16 Dosey wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
Yay, more deliberate vagueness on Kishi's part over Tobi's identity.

Obito's eye yes, but his body/mind/soul? Dun dun dunnnnnn.

Almost as bad as Kubo having a mysterious character kill a Sternritter and put a sword to Urahara's face and then completely abandon the reveal.


Bleach's new arc has been great so far.


lol no


Funny thing. I like it too.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 13 2012 23:52 GMT
#10028
On August 14 2012 08:38 Nausea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 13:30 ixi.genocide wrote:
I still find it hard to believe that Obito accomplished what he did in such a short amount of time. I definitely think that Tobi has some parts of Obito, especially his eye.


Ye, impossible....

Naruto went from not being able to summon a bunshin to summoning gamabunta in what, 6 months?


he had the Kyuubi helping him

plus hes actually using really simple techniques, lots of people can do summoning techniques, pretty much eVERYONE has a summoning technique it took Naruto 2 panels to learn the summoning technique
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 23:59:13
August 13 2012 23:58 GMT
#10029
598 will be out on the 22nd, and if Tobi is Izuna, it would be anti climactic and make no sense. Tobi will take off his mask and say "It is I Izuna Uchiha: and Kakashi, Gai, Naruto, Bee will be like "lol who are you" It will probably be Obito. Kishi can make up any excuse he wants to make it be him, like time being slow in his dimension or something.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 14 2012 00:03 GMT
#10030
impure soul resurrection still open as an excuse too, madara didn't die when kabuto broke jutsu so it's possible lol
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
August 14 2012 00:20 GMT
#10031
On August 14 2012 08:52 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 08:38 Nausea wrote:
On August 12 2012 13:30 ixi.genocide wrote:
I still find it hard to believe that Obito accomplished what he did in such a short amount of time. I definitely think that Tobi has some parts of Obito, especially his eye.


Ye, impossible....

Naruto went from not being able to summon a bunshin to summoning gamabunta in what, 6 months?


he had the Kyuubi helping him

plus hes actually using really simple techniques, lots of people can do summoning techniques, pretty much eVERYONE has a summoning technique it took Naruto 2 panels to learn the summoning technique


So?
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.
2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.
3) He´s an uchiha (instant eyehax powerup no jutsu)
4) Zetsu record fights and they seem to get along pretty well (combat experience from "replays" lol)
5) Teleportation is a form of time-travel, he moves inside his dimension to the new destination and arrives there instantly in the real world. We have already seen sasuke inside this dimension, it is possible this dimension was used as a training ground by him and madara since tobi can take other people with him inside it.

If it is Obito (which I am not sure it is) then kishimoto will find a way to explain it.
Set it ablaze!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 14 2012 00:22 GMT
#10032
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 00:30:25
August 14 2012 00:28 GMT
#10033
On August 14 2012 09:22 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

Show nested quote +
2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him


A tomoe is the name of one of the 3 signs around the center of the eye.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is the first time Sasuke awakens his sharingan, with 1 tomoe.

He later got the second one, but the point is that Obito had great potential because he had 2 tomoes from the start when he awakened his sharingan.

Oh and Tobi given Nagato rinnegan has never been confirmed by anyone except Tobi himself, who also claimed to be madara at one point, so chanses are he is full of shit.
Set it ablaze!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 14 2012 00:47 GMT
#10034
On August 14 2012 09:28 Nausea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:22 Forikorder wrote:
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him


A tomoe is the name of one of the 3 signs around the center of the eye.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is the first time Sasuke awakens his sharingan, with 1 tomoe.

He later got the second one, but the point is that Obito had great potential because he had 2 tomoes from the start when he awakened his sharingan.

Oh and Tobi given Nagato rinnegan has never been confirmed by anyone except Tobi himself, who also claimed to be madara at one point, so chanses are he is full of shit.

that makes no sense he couldnt use Sharingan until the fight on the bridge in the land of waves when he opened it whith 2 tomoe
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:02:57
August 14 2012 00:52 GMT
#10035
On August 14 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:28 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:22 Forikorder wrote:
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him


A tomoe is the name of one of the 3 signs around the center of the eye.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is the first time Sasuke awakens his sharingan, with 1 tomoe.

He later got the second one, but the point is that Obito had great potential because he had 2 tomoes from the start when he awakened his sharingan.

Oh and Tobi given Nagato rinnegan has never been confirmed by anyone except Tobi himself, who also claimed to be madara at one point, so chanses are he is full of shit.

that makes no sense he couldnt use Sharingan until the fight on the bridge in the land of waves when he opened it whith 2 tomoe


Are you saying the manga is wrong?
Sasuke awakened his sharingan with 1 tomoe the day itachi left the village after slaughtering the clan. (see pic)
This is about 3-4 years before the battle against zabusa/haku on that bridge.


Set it ablaze!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 14 2012 01:08 GMT
#10036
On August 14 2012 09:52 Nausea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:28 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:22 Forikorder wrote:
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him


A tomoe is the name of one of the 3 signs around the center of the eye.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is the first time Sasuke awakens his sharingan, with 1 tomoe.

He later got the second one, but the point is that Obito had great potential because he had 2 tomoes from the start when he awakened his sharingan.

Oh and Tobi given Nagato rinnegan has never been confirmed by anyone except Tobi himself, who also claimed to be madara at one point, so chanses are he is full of shit.

that makes no sense he couldnt use Sharingan until the fight on the bridge in the land of waves when he opened it whith 2 tomoe


Are you saying the manga is wrong?
Sasuke awakened his sharingan with 1 tomoe the day itachi left the village after slaughtering the clan. (see pic)
This is about 3-4 years before the battle against zabusa/haku on that bridge.



no im saying its a plot hole

besides who cares about the tomoe? Itachi awoke full sharingan before Obito had 2 sharingan and Itachi is weaker then him

also Obito probably had one tomoe sharingan before that but jsut like Sasuke couldnt actually activate it
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:14:04
August 14 2012 01:12 GMT
#10037
On August 14 2012 10:08 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:52 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:28 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:22 Forikorder wrote:
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him


A tomoe is the name of one of the 3 signs around the center of the eye.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is the first time Sasuke awakens his sharingan, with 1 tomoe.

He later got the second one, but the point is that Obito had great potential because he had 2 tomoes from the start when he awakened his sharingan.

Oh and Tobi given Nagato rinnegan has never been confirmed by anyone except Tobi himself, who also claimed to be madara at one point, so chanses are he is full of shit.

that makes no sense he couldnt use Sharingan until the fight on the bridge in the land of waves when he opened it whith 2 tomoe


Are you saying the manga is wrong?
Sasuke awakened his sharingan with 1 tomoe the day itachi left the village after slaughtering the clan. (see pic)
This is about 3-4 years before the battle against zabusa/haku on that bridge.



no im saying its a plot hole

besides who cares about the tomoe? Itachi awoke full sharingan before Obito had 2 sharingan and Itachi is weaker then him

also Obito probably had one tomoe sharingan before that but jsut like Sasuke couldnt actually activate it


Well probably isnt really canon, this is canon however until we see something disproving it. And your comment about Itachi i don´t fully understand since Itachi probably was not even born when Obito got his sharingan.
Or well Itachi was about 3-4 years old at the time i suppose.
Set it ablaze!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 14 2012 01:15 GMT
#10038
On August 14 2012 10:12 Nausea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:08 Forikorder wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:52 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:28 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:22 Forikorder wrote:
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him


A tomoe is the name of one of the 3 signs around the center of the eye.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is the first time Sasuke awakens his sharingan, with 1 tomoe.

He later got the second one, but the point is that Obito had great potential because he had 2 tomoes from the start when he awakened his sharingan.

Oh and Tobi given Nagato rinnegan has never been confirmed by anyone except Tobi himself, who also claimed to be madara at one point, so chanses are he is full of shit.

that makes no sense he couldnt use Sharingan until the fight on the bridge in the land of waves when he opened it whith 2 tomoe


Are you saying the manga is wrong?
Sasuke awakened his sharingan with 1 tomoe the day itachi left the village after slaughtering the clan. (see pic)
This is about 3-4 years before the battle against zabusa/haku on that bridge.



no im saying its a plot hole

besides who cares about the tomoe? Itachi awoke full sharingan before Obito had 2 sharingan and Itachi is weaker then him

also Obito probably had one tomoe sharingan before that but jsut like Sasuke couldnt actually activate it


Well probably isnt really canon, this is canon however until we see something disproving it. And your comment about Itachi i don´t fully understand since Itachi probably was not even born when Obito got his sharingan.

who cares if Itachi hadnt been born yet

Obito probably awoken his 2 tomoe Sharingan at around the same age Sasuke awoke his probably later since Kakashi was a whatever the name of the rank is which means that exam thing had passed which means he awoke his after graduating from ninja academy and after the exam while Sasuke had 3 tomoe not long after the exam

and Itachi awoke his Sharingan much younger then both of them

it doesnt matter when you get your tomoe
whatever292
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada21 Posts
August 14 2012 01:22 GMT
#10039
On August 14 2012 10:08 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:52 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:28 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:22 Forikorder wrote:
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him


A tomoe is the name of one of the 3 signs around the center of the eye.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is the first time Sasuke awakens his sharingan, with 1 tomoe.

He later got the second one, but the point is that Obito had great potential because he had 2 tomoes from the start when he awakened his sharingan.

Oh and Tobi given Nagato rinnegan has never been confirmed by anyone except Tobi himself, who also claimed to be madara at one point, so chanses are he is full of shit.

that makes no sense he couldnt use Sharingan until the fight on the bridge in the land of waves when he opened it whith 2 tomoe


Are you saying the manga is wrong?
Sasuke awakened his sharingan with 1 tomoe the day itachi left the village after slaughtering the clan. (see pic)
This is about 3-4 years before the battle against zabusa/haku on that bridge.



no im saying its a plot hole

besides who cares about the tomoe? Itachi awoke full sharingan before Obito had 2 sharingan and Itachi is weaker then him

also Obito probably had one tomoe sharingan before that but jsut like Sasuke couldnt actually activate it


Its not a plot hole. Sasuke must have repressed the whole thing and he didnt remember himself awakening it. Obito definetly didn't have a sharingan before since during the Kakashi chronicles he said a number of times about what would happen "once he awakens it". I never heard of the whole measuring ones potential with the number of tomoe during the initial awakening, is there anything in the manga to back that up?
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
August 14 2012 01:22 GMT
#10040
On August 14 2012 10:15 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:12 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:08 Forikorder wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:52 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:47 Forikorder wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:28 Nausea wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:22 Forikorder wrote:
1) Obito awakened his sharingan with 2 tomoes in difference to most uchihas, that speaks volumes of his potential.


WTF is a tomoe...

and his Sharingan opened jsut like Sasuke seems to be the norm not exception

2) Obito is now confirmed to have one of the most imba sharingans in both his eyes ever seen in the manga.


granted

remember, Tobi gave Rinnegan to Nagato its just simply impossible for Obito to be Tobi

Tobi is some overachiever who has some misconceived wrongs taht the world did to him


A tomoe is the name of one of the 3 signs around the center of the eye.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That is the first time Sasuke awakens his sharingan, with 1 tomoe.

He later got the second one, but the point is that Obito had great potential because he had 2 tomoes from the start when he awakened his sharingan.

Oh and Tobi given Nagato rinnegan has never been confirmed by anyone except Tobi himself, who also claimed to be madara at one point, so chanses are he is full of shit.

that makes no sense he couldnt use Sharingan until the fight on the bridge in the land of waves when he opened it whith 2 tomoe


Are you saying the manga is wrong?
Sasuke awakened his sharingan with 1 tomoe the day itachi left the village after slaughtering the clan. (see pic)
This is about 3-4 years before the battle against zabusa/haku on that bridge.



no im saying its a plot hole

besides who cares about the tomoe? Itachi awoke full sharingan before Obito had 2 sharingan and Itachi is weaker then him

also Obito probably had one tomoe sharingan before that but jsut like Sasuke couldnt actually activate it


Well probably isnt really canon, this is canon however until we see something disproving it. And your comment about Itachi i don´t fully understand since Itachi probably was not even born when Obito got his sharingan.

who cares if Itachi hadnt been born yet

Obito probably awoken his 2 tomoe Sharingan at around the same age Sasuke awoke his probably later since Kakashi was a whatever the name of the rank is which means that exam thing had passed which means he awoke his after graduating from ninja academy and after the exam while Sasuke had 3 tomoe not long after the exam

and Itachi awoke his Sharingan much younger then both of them

it doesnt matter when you get your tomoe


And my point, that sparked the start of this discussion was that you can in short time develop your sharingan and become imba. And you just said so, so what are we debating about? Obito got 2 tomoes the second he awakened his sharingan, that means there is potential that he in 1-2 years could have gotten 3 tomoes, even mangekyo and learnt to use his space/time ninjutsu.
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