[Manga] Naruto - Page 496

On August 03 2012 17:41 fishinguy wrote:


We have not seen the full power of the senju clan, which is meant to be equal to the Uchiha and their eye hax. We only know the hashirama somehow beat Madara. Anyway I thought some of the stuff in the war arc was cool, Kabuto with his Sage Mode and Reanimation was pretty boss and the old kage were pretty cool too. What I dislike most about the manga though is that the other old genin were never really developed. OK Ino-Shika-Cho got some spotlight but Hinata's team was almost completely ignored and team Gai was just hopeless. They got 1 battle with themselves (lol) and Lee and Neji who were total beasts in part 1 are just so weak now. Even Sakura who is supposed to be the main heroine hasn't done anything useful since her battle with sosori which is just sad. Kishi just focused too much on Naruto, Sasuke and haxed eye powers.

On August 03 2012 18:11 Tandinel wrote:
Does anyone have any theories on what the heck happened to the Senju clan? Weren't they in control of Konoha, and now there are just no more Senju? There is Tsunade, but i think thats it so far, right? Them being even more powerful then the Uchiha, and there being no story of what happened to them is just odd.

On August 04 2012 08:37 Uridium wrote:


I think the main theory has to do with the fact that most Uchiha bred within their own clan families to preserve the family bloodline; And as the Senju are the opposite of the Uchiha in every way you could assume the Senju just bred with everyone diluting the bloodline.

On August 04 2012 08:43 Forikorder wrote:

Shikamarus teacher was supposed to be Senju and he was fodder so this is pretty accurate

then again we havent even heard of Hashiramas son at all doing anything amazing, and i think the second Hokage wasnt a senju and it was stated that only Hashirama and the cloned dude was the only guys who managed to use wood techniques so i think Hashirama was the only exceptional member of the Senju clan

On August 04 2012 08:43 Forikorder wrote:

Shikamarus teacher was supposed to be Senju and he was fodder so this is pretty accurate

then again we havent even heard of Hashiramas son at all doing anything amazing, and i think the second Hokage wasnt a senju and it was stated that only Hashirama and the cloned dude was the only guys who managed to use wood techniques so i think Hashirama was the only exceptional member of the Senju clan

On August 02 2012 18:05 Courthead wrote:
For those who didn't understand what was going on last chapter, what's happening is that to dodge attacks, Tobi sends parts of his body to another dimension. But he only sends the part being attacked, not his entire body. Kakashi's Kamui technique also sends objects to another dimension. It turns out that these two dimensions are actually the same dimension, and that it's likely pretty small, barely containing enough room for the objects sent to it.

Thus, if Tobi dematerializes part of his body at the same time Kakashi uses Kamui on an object, the object will collide with Tobi's body part in the next dimension.

The first example of this happening was when Tobi kicked a kunai at Naruto. Immediately afterward, Naruto punched Tobi in the face, but Tobi dematerialized his face and mask, sending them to the other dimension. At that moment, Kakashi used Kamui to send the kunai to the other dimension. Thus, Tobi got a scratch on his mask. Since Naruto attacked at the same time, the three of them at first thought the scratch was caused by Naruto's punch.

The last example of this happening was, obviously, when Naruto tried to hit Tobi with a Rasengan at the end of the chapter. Tobi dematerialized his right arm so that Naruto wouldn't collide with it, but only moments after Kakashi sucked the Rasengan to the other dimension. Thus Tobi's arm and the Rasengan were in the other dimension at the same time, and Tobi was hit.

On August 04 2012 11:41 ixi.genocide wrote:


Sorry to say but almost everything you said was wrong... Shikamaru's teacher was the 3rd hokage's son. His name is Asuma and he is not of senju blood. The second hokage was hashirama's brother and he was senju, he was also retardedly powerful... Having created the impure resurrection tech and some other bs abilities. it is true that hashirama and Yamato are the only known wood style users (until danzo and madara in this war) but the senju clan was supposedly on par with uchiha for a long time, even before hashirama was leader.

Also, Tobirama could use space-time ninjutsu, which would lend credence to the namikazi clan being related.

On August 04 2012 08:43 Forikorder wrote:

Shikamarus teacher was supposed to be Senju and he was fodder so this is pretty accurate

On August 05 2012 07:21 Forikorder wrote:

Madara is probably the strongest member of the Uchiha clan (at least if someone was stronger then him theyd still be around kicking ass) so Hashirama is the only exceptional member of the Senju clan but thats really jsut splitting hairs

didnt know second Hokage was a senju dont know why people say hes retardly powerful since he died acting as a decoy, if it was minato he would have probably jsut solod the force attacking them and get back to the village alive so the second couldnt ahve been all that great if he died so easily

On August 05 2012 07:29 AXygnus wrote:


Uhh, you mean Asuma. He's a Sarutobi, son of the 3rd Hokage, Hiruzen. The only Senju present in the manga is Tsunade, granddaughter of Hashirama Senju and Mito Uzumaki.

On August 05 2012 07:29 AXygnus wrote:


Uhh, you mean Asuma. He's a Sarutobi, son of the 3rd Hokage, Hiruzen. The only Senju present in the manga is Tsunade, granddaughter of Hashirama Senju and Mito Uzumaki.

On August 05 2012 07:44 intrigue wrote:
tobirama's death has always seemed so sketch to me... it makes so little sense. maybe the true details from that will emerge slowly?

On August 05 2012 07:53 Forikorder wrote:

its pretty unlikely for Tobi to be Tobirama since Orochimaru brought him back with the necro jutsu

it is possible for Tobirama to be Tobi but it requires him to have a body double that spent a lot of time pretending to be him(possible if we assume that he had the same ambitions as Tobi), and then it would require Tobi to feign ingorance when asking Kabuto about the necro jutsu (possible if his intent was to figure out how loyal Kabuto was since hed know if Kabuto lie), not bother to do exactly what Kabuto did (possible if he jsut didnt ahve the time to gather the components) to help fight the war and not know enough about the jutsu he created to stop Kabuto from ressurecting Madara (possible there jsut was no way)

of course if the above is all true then it explains why Madara managed to free himself from Kabuto but the second couldnt but its a bit convoluted

On August 05 2012 07:47 a3den wrote:


Kishimoto kinda took the easy way out : "see, Uzumaki and Senju married each other, Uzumaki are therefore half-Senju". That's why he presents Naruto and Nagato as Senju bred.