On May 24 2012 02:07 Heh_ wrote: [quote] No, you use the illusion eye to make the new eye cast Izanagi again! Confusing? Explanation below:
1: Cast Izanagi with first eye. 2: When it runs out, cast Izanagi using the second eye, making the first one "normal" again. 3: Before Izanagi from step 2 runs out, use the first eye to cast Izanagi again, making the second one "normal". 4: Repeat steps 2 and 3 until enemy dies. 5: Profit.
Infinite loop!
steps 2 and 3 doesnt make the enemy die
you have 2 eyes, A and B
you use Eye A to save your life and eye A closes so you use eye B to stop eye A from closing so eye B closes so you use eye A to stop eye B from closing in an infinite loop that prevents you from using any ninjutsu, drains your chakra and makes your opponent think you have a very wierd blinking habit
Well, Izanagi is on a time limit so you don't have to bother about the "use once then discard" rule. While you're at it, might as well give yourself more chakra since you can do anything you want!
no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
Proof? Don't make me laugh. You expect me to find some peer-reviewed article in a reputable scientific journal about how IZANAGI (NOT IZANAMI FFS) works? Why don't you show me your proof too. You're barking up the wrong tree, I suggest that you get a get a muzzle.
Now now boys, its a freaking manga not rocket science. Remain civil.
I thought I was pretty civil. I was thinking up cute ideas until someone failed to catch the joke and call me dumb. So I started to criticize said person's ideas, instead of the person.
On May 24 2012 02:07 Heh_ wrote: [quote] No, you use the illusion eye to make the new eye cast Izanagi again! Confusing? Explanation below:
1: Cast Izanagi with first eye. 2: When it runs out, cast Izanagi using the second eye, making the first one "normal" again. 3: Before Izanagi from step 2 runs out, use the first eye to cast Izanagi again, making the second one "normal". 4: Repeat steps 2 and 3 until enemy dies. 5: Profit.
Infinite loop!
steps 2 and 3 doesnt make the enemy die
you have 2 eyes, A and B
you use Eye A to save your life and eye A closes so you use eye B to stop eye A from closing so eye B closes so you use eye A to stop eye B from closing in an infinite loop that prevents you from using any ninjutsu, drains your chakra and makes your opponent think you have a very wierd blinking habit
Well, Izanagi is on a time limit so you don't have to bother about the "use once then discard" rule. While you're at it, might as well give yourself more chakra since you can do anything you want!
no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
Proof? Don't make me laugh. You expect me to find some peer-reviewed article in a reputable scientific journal about how IZANAGI (NOT IZANAMI FFS) works? Why don't you show me your proof too. You're barking up the wrong tree, I suggest that you get a get a muzzle.
why do i need proof when i have common sense on my side? sacrificng an eye to get back an eye makes absolutely no sense at all
plus they said that an eye that use the Izanagi can never see again therefore it stands to reason they tried everything to recover a lost eye and failed
its not a plot hole you jsut dont seem to understand how it couldnt possibly work
On May 24 2012 02:09 Forikorder wrote: [quote] steps 2 and 3 doesnt make the enemy die
you have 2 eyes, A and B
you use Eye A to save your life and eye A closes so you use eye B to stop eye A from closing so eye B closes so you use eye A to stop eye B from closing in an infinite loop that prevents you from using any ninjutsu, drains your chakra and makes your opponent think you have a very wierd blinking habit
Well, Izanagi is on a time limit so you don't have to bother about the "use once then discard" rule. While you're at it, might as well give yourself more chakra since you can do anything you want!
no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
Proof? Don't make me laugh. You expect me to find some peer-reviewed article in a reputable scientific journal about how IZANAGI (NOT IZANAMI FFS) works? Why don't you show me your proof too. You're barking up the wrong tree, I suggest that you get a get a muzzle.
Now now boys, its a freaking manga not rocket science. Remain civil.
I thought I was pretty civil. I was thinking up cute ideas until someone failed to catch the joke and call me dumb. So I started to criticize said person's ideas, instead of the person.
On May 24 2012 02:09 Forikorder wrote: [quote] steps 2 and 3 doesnt make the enemy die
you have 2 eyes, A and B
you use Eye A to save your life and eye A closes so you use eye B to stop eye A from closing so eye B closes so you use eye A to stop eye B from closing in an infinite loop that prevents you from using any ninjutsu, drains your chakra and makes your opponent think you have a very wierd blinking habit
Well, Izanagi is on a time limit so you don't have to bother about the "use once then discard" rule. While you're at it, might as well give yourself more chakra since you can do anything you want!
no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
Proof? Don't make me laugh. You expect me to find some peer-reviewed article in a reputable scientific journal about how IZANAGI (NOT IZANAMI FFS) works? Why don't you show me your proof too. You're barking up the wrong tree, I suggest that you get a get a muzzle.
why do i need proof when i have common sense on my side? sacrificng an eye to get back an eye makes absolutely no sense at all
plus they said that an eye that use the Izanagi can never see again therefore it stands to reason they tried everything to recover a lost eye and failed
its not a plot hole you jsut dont seem to understand how it couldnt possibly work
On May 24 2012 02:17 Heh_ wrote: [quote] Well, Izanagi is on a time limit so you don't have to bother about the "use once then discard" rule. While you're at it, might as well give yourself more chakra since you can do anything you want!
no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
Proof? Don't make me laugh. You expect me to find some peer-reviewed article in a reputable scientific journal about how IZANAGI (NOT IZANAMI FFS) works? Why don't you show me your proof too. You're barking up the wrong tree, I suggest that you get a get a muzzle.
Now now boys, its a freaking manga not rocket science. Remain civil.
I thought I was pretty civil. I was thinking up cute ideas until someone failed to catch the joke and call me dumb. So I started to criticize said person's ideas, instead of the person.
Edit:
On May 24 2012 03:20 Forikorder wrote:
On May 24 2012 03:11 Heh_ wrote:
On May 24 2012 03:08 Forikorder wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:46 Heh_ wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:34 Forikorder wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:30 Heh_ wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:22 Forikorder wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:17 Heh_ wrote: [quote] Well, Izanagi is on a time limit so you don't have to bother about the "use once then discard" rule. While you're at it, might as well give yourself more chakra since you can do anything you want!
no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
Proof? Don't make me laugh. You expect me to find some peer-reviewed article in a reputable scientific journal about how IZANAGI (NOT IZANAMI FFS) works? Why don't you show me your proof too. You're barking up the wrong tree, I suggest that you get a get a muzzle.
why do i need proof when i have common sense on my side? sacrificng an eye to get back an eye makes absolutely no sense at all
plus they said that an eye that use the Izanagi can never see again therefore it stands to reason they tried everything to recover a lost eye and failed
its not a plot hole you jsut dont seem to understand how it couldnt possibly work
The whole fucking thing MAKES NO SENSE.
how doesnt it make sense? it makes sense to me
Good for you. Your suspension of disbelief is orders of magnitude higher than mine. Either that, or you're unable to notice huge problems with the story. If you refuse to hear the comments of other people that talked about said problems, then carry on.
On May 24 2012 02:22 Forikorder wrote: [quote] no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
Proof? Don't make me laugh. You expect me to find some peer-reviewed article in a reputable scientific journal about how IZANAGI (NOT IZANAMI FFS) works? Why don't you show me your proof too. You're barking up the wrong tree, I suggest that you get a get a muzzle.
Now now boys, its a freaking manga not rocket science. Remain civil.
I thought I was pretty civil. I was thinking up cute ideas until someone failed to catch the joke and call me dumb. So I started to criticize said person's ideas, instead of the person.
Edit:
On May 24 2012 03:20 Forikorder wrote:
On May 24 2012 03:11 Heh_ wrote:
On May 24 2012 03:08 Forikorder wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:46 Heh_ wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:34 Forikorder wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:30 Heh_ wrote:
On May 24 2012 02:22 Forikorder wrote: [quote] no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
Proof? Don't make me laugh. You expect me to find some peer-reviewed article in a reputable scientific journal about how IZANAGI (NOT IZANAMI FFS) works? Why don't you show me your proof too. You're barking up the wrong tree, I suggest that you get a get a muzzle.
why do i need proof when i have common sense on my side? sacrificng an eye to get back an eye makes absolutely no sense at all
plus they said that an eye that use the Izanagi can never see again therefore it stands to reason they tried everything to recover a lost eye and failed
its not a plot hole you jsut dont seem to understand how it couldnt possibly work
The whole fucking thing MAKES NO SENSE.
how doesnt it make sense? it makes sense to me
Good for you. Your suspension of disbelief is orders of magnitude higher than mine. Either that, or you're unable to notice huge problems with the story. If you refuse to hear the comments of other people that talked about said problems, then carry on.
waht huge holes are yo talking about aside from the made up one about how trading an eye for an eye for infinitum somehow makes your opponent lose
Ok you win. The story is completely perfect, there isn't anything wrong with the way that the last few chapters turned out into a shitfest. All my opinions are obviously inferior to yours, o' ruler of the imaginary castle upon the clouds in the sky. I am but a mere mindless peon among everybody else in this thread, with no expression of my thoughts and opinions.
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for the manga to reach its conclusion.Quoted from the Bleach thread about exactly how I feel:
On May 17 2012 05:57 SilverskY wrote: I want this manga to end. The only reason why I'm still reading this thing is because I'm already 500 chapters into this shit hole and might as well see through it. But damn it couldn't come any faster.
On May 24 2012 01:25 Kupon3ss wrote: clearly, you can just use ur other eye to make the fact that your first eye went blind an illusion, too bad danzo never figured it out
but then youd lose the eye you used to make your other eye not disapear
No, you use the illusion eye to make the new eye cast Izanagi again! Confusing? Explanation below:
1: Cast Izanagi with first eye. 2: When it runs out, cast Izanagi using the second eye, making the first one "normal" again. 3: Before Izanagi from step 2 runs out, use the first eye to cast Izanagi again, making the second one "normal". 4: Repeat steps 2 and 3 until enemy dies. 5: Profit.
Infinite loop!
steps 2 and 3 doesnt make the enemy die
you have 2 eyes, A and B
you use Eye A to save your life and eye A closes so you use eye B to stop eye A from closing so eye B closes so you use eye A to stop eye B from closing in an infinite loop that prevents you from using any ninjutsu, drains your chakra and makes your opponent think you have a very wierd blinking habit
Well, Izanagi is on a time limit so you don't have to bother about the "use once then discard" rule. While you're at it, might as well give yourself more chakra since you can do anything you want!
no you cant do anything you can prevent one thing from happening you cant just give yourself infinite chakra at the most you can spend X amount of chakra to give yourself back X amount of chakra by using the jutsu to cancel you last casting of the jutsu though theres no point since your paying the exact same price so it doesnt change anything
It does! If Izanagi can really change anything (I mean dying is as big as you get), then you should be able to modify chakra, at least pay it back. You can keep chaining Izanagi forever and ever, no longer limited by the number of eyes (most people come with 2). The only problem is how to go to sleep without losing the illusion.
Why are we debating about the silliness of the story...
were not your being dumb, the Izanagi could POSSIBLY return your eye, but only if you paid with an eye it only works one time you only get one thing fudged at the cost of one eye so if you cast the Izanagi to undo an Izanagi you MIGHT get back the chakra you used to cast the oringinal izanagi, you MIGHT get back the eye you spent to cast the Izanagi but you sould stiill have to pay the exact same amount of chakra you got back and still lose an eye the only difference is which eye you lose
So instead of presenting logical arguments, you start to insult me. Nice. Replace all the words in capslock with "will" and now it's correct.
I came up with this in jest to poke fun at the massive plot holes in the story. I know you don't agree with this statement, but everybody else does. All the recent posts are poking fun at how ridiculous the story has become.
proof or GTFO
show any proof at all that the ability of Izanami is stronger then the cost, it could be since Izanami took the eye its impossible to get it back under any circumstances hence why Itachis eye is still sightless despite being under the edo tensei which should recover nay wound immediately
YOu can just transplant an other eye from an other uchiha, like Tobi he has an entire collection In that case I think Izanagi is stronger than the cost yes.
On May 24 2012 03:32 Rob-Zero wrote: You could defeat your opponent in a "normal" way, just using izanagi once to save your life or so, and then after the fight you could do it.
Definitely Danzou could have "healed" all his other Sharingans in trade for one, I think there is no doubt about that..
no he could only heal one and the Izanagi cant reverse anything or else he would have reversed his useing Shisuis eye so he could have used it sooner you can only undo one thing (all evidence points to only one thing that is happening as you cast the jutsu) you cant trade one eye to undo multiple events
On May 24 2012 03:32 Rob-Zero wrote: You could defeat your opponent in a "normal" way, just using izanagi once to save your life or so, and then after the fight you could do it.
Definitely Danzou could have "healed" all his other Sharingans in trade for one, I think there is no doubt about that..
no he could only heal one and the Izanagi cant reverse anything or else he would have reversed his useing Shisuis eye so he could have used it sooner you can only undo one thing (all evidence points to only one thing that is happening as you cast the jutsu) you cant trade one eye to undo multiple events
You are right, I thought about it and I does not work. I personally think it is a bit different from what you wrote, but I can´t explain it in english, respectively it would be much to stressful But I agree with you, it would not work.
On May 24 2012 03:36 Heh_ wrote: Ok you win. The story is completely perfect, there isn't anything wrong with the way that the last few chapters turned out into a shitfest. All my opinions are obviously inferior to yours, o' ruler of the imaginary castle upon the clouds in the sky. I am but a mere mindless peon among everybody else in this thread, with no expression of my thoughts and opinions.
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for the manga to reach its conclusion.Quoted from the Bleach thread about exactly how I feel:
On May 17 2012 05:57 SilverskY wrote: I want this manga to end. The only reason why I'm still reading this thing is because I'm already 500 chapters into this shit hole and might as well see through it. But damn it couldn't come any faster.
LOL! For a series that's built itself up on the fact that you can change destiny, now we are introduced to a jutsu where one is forced to accept destiny. This series and its usage of destiny. Child of the Prophecy, anyone?
On May 24 2012 03:36 Heh_ wrote: Ok you win. The story is completely perfect, there isn't anything wrong with the way that the last few chapters turned out into a shitfest. All my opinions are obviously inferior to yours, o' ruler of the imaginary castle upon the clouds in the sky. I am but a mere mindless peon among everybody else in this thread, with no expression of my thoughts and opinions.
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for the manga to reach its conclusion.Quoted from the Bleach thread about exactly how I feel:
On May 17 2012 05:57 SilverskY wrote: I want this manga to end. The only reason why I'm still reading this thing is because I'm already 500 chapters into this shit hole and might as well see through it. But damn it couldn't come any faster.
LOL! For a series that's built itself up on the fact that you can change destiny, now we are introduced to a jutsu where one is forced to accept destiny. This series and its usage of destiny. Child of the Prophecy, anyone?
I never thought about that. Somewhere along the way, I degenerated into a mindless zombie trying to finish up this blasted series. I kinda forgot about the overarching plot. Seems like I can't change my destiny =/
Tobi is clueless on the abilities of Minato. Obito should at the very least know the abilities of his teacher. Makes it seem less likely for Tobi = Obito.
Yellow Flash so badass. I wish we could see more of him
On May 24 2012 03:36 Heh_ wrote: Ok you win. The story is completely perfect, there isn't anything wrong with the way that the last few chapters turned out into a shitfest. All my opinions are obviously inferior to yours, o' ruler of the imaginary castle upon the clouds in the sky. I am but a mere mindless peon among everybody else in this thread, with no expression of my thoughts and opinions.
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for the manga to reach its conclusion.Quoted from the Bleach thread about exactly how I feel:
On May 17 2012 05:57 SilverskY wrote: I want this manga to end. The only reason why I'm still reading this thing is because I'm already 500 chapters into this shit hole and might as well see through it. But damn it couldn't come any faster.
LOL! For a series that's built itself up on the fact that you can change destiny, now we are introduced to a jutsu where one is forced to accept destiny. This series and its usage of destiny. Child of the Prophecy, anyone?
I never thought about that. Somewhere along the way, I degenerated into a mindless zombie trying to finish up this blasted series. I kinda forgot about the overarching plot. Seems like I can't change my destiny =/
Itachis new jutsu has nothing to do with not being able to change your destiny its about making Kabuto accept his destiny instead of being stuck trying to be Orochimaru
Tobi is clueless on the abilities of Minato. Obito should at the very least know the abilities of his teacher. Makes it seem less likely for Tobi = Obito.
Yellow Flash so badass. I wish we could see more of him
Kishi should completely drop Naruto and base everything off of Minato. He is so bad-ass.
Tobi is clueless on the abilities of Minato. Obito should at the very least know the abilities of his teacher. Makes it seem less likely for Tobi = Obito.
Yellow Flash so badass. I wish we could see more of him
Kishi should completely drop Naruto and base everything off of Minato. He is so bad-ass.
while awesome, i think dropping naruto would be bad, naruto, has been consistent, he works hard, he trains under the people who came before him, and he uses some level of strategy to win fights. Kishi needs to drop this whole EYE JUTSU LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE combat that he keeps pulling.
When i turned the page and saw a FUCKING FLOW CHART, i knew this was too fucking complicated for it to even make sense, BUT at the end, it still didn't make much sense as others have brought up.
On May 24 2012 03:36 Heh_ wrote: Ok you win. The story is completely perfect, there isn't anything wrong with the way that the last few chapters turned out into a shitfest. All my opinions are obviously inferior to yours, o' ruler of the imaginary castle upon the clouds in the sky. I am but a mere mindless peon among everybody else in this thread, with no expression of my thoughts and opinions.
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for the manga to reach its conclusion.Quoted from the Bleach thread about exactly how I feel:
On May 17 2012 05:57 SilverskY wrote: I want this manga to end. The only reason why I'm still reading this thing is because I'm already 500 chapters into this shit hole and might as well see through it. But damn it couldn't come any faster.
LOL! For a series that's built itself up on the fact that you can change destiny, now we are introduced to a jutsu where one is forced to accept destiny. This series and its usage of destiny. Child of the Prophecy, anyone?
I never thought about that. Somewhere along the way, I degenerated into a mindless zombie trying to finish up this blasted series. I kinda forgot about the overarching plot. Seems like I can't change my destiny =/
Itachis new jutsu has nothing to do with not being able to change your destiny its about making Kabuto accept his destiny instead of being stuck trying to be Orochimaru
You should rewatch the Neji vs Naruto fight. Neji basically said that your destiny is predetermined and you can't change it, whereas Naruto said that it's you who is in charge of your own destiny. Itachi is saying that we just have to accept our destiny as it was laid out, i.e predetermined.
On May 24 2012 03:36 Heh_ wrote: Ok you win. The story is completely perfect, there isn't anything wrong with the way that the last few chapters turned out into a shitfest. All my opinions are obviously inferior to yours, o' ruler of the imaginary castle upon the clouds in the sky. I am but a mere mindless peon among everybody else in this thread, with no expression of my thoughts and opinions.
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for the manga to reach its conclusion.Quoted from the Bleach thread about exactly how I feel:
On May 17 2012 05:57 SilverskY wrote: I want this manga to end. The only reason why I'm still reading this thing is because I'm already 500 chapters into this shit hole and might as well see through it. But damn it couldn't come any faster.
LOL! For a series that's built itself up on the fact that you can change destiny, now we are introduced to a jutsu where one is forced to accept destiny. This series and its usage of destiny. Child of the Prophecy, anyone?
I never thought about that. Somewhere along the way, I degenerated into a mindless zombie trying to finish up this blasted series. I kinda forgot about the overarching plot. Seems like I can't change my destiny =/
Itachis new jutsu has nothing to do with not being able to change your destiny its about making Kabuto accept his destiny instead of being stuck trying to be Orochimaru
You should rewatch the Neji vs Naruto fight. Neji basically said that your destiny is predetermined and you can't change it, whereas Naruto said that it's you who is in charge of your own destiny. Itachi is saying that we just have to accept our destiny as it was laid out, i.e predetermined.
the issue is that kabuto is trying to live orochimarus destiny as opposed to his own hence where itachi needs to convince him to live his own life
On May 24 2012 03:36 Heh_ wrote: Ok you win. The story is completely perfect, there isn't anything wrong with the way that the last few chapters turned out into a shitfest. All my opinions are obviously inferior to yours, o' ruler of the imaginary castle upon the clouds in the sky. I am but a mere mindless peon among everybody else in this thread, with no expression of my thoughts and opinions.
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for the manga to reach its conclusion.Quoted from the Bleach thread about exactly how I feel:
On May 17 2012 05:57 SilverskY wrote: I want this manga to end. The only reason why I'm still reading this thing is because I'm already 500 chapters into this shit hole and might as well see through it. But damn it couldn't come any faster.
LOL! For a series that's built itself up on the fact that you can change destiny, now we are introduced to a jutsu where one is forced to accept destiny. This series and its usage of destiny. Child of the Prophecy, anyone?
I never thought about that. Somewhere along the way, I degenerated into a mindless zombie trying to finish up this blasted series. I kinda forgot about the overarching plot. Seems like I can't change my destiny =/
Itachis new jutsu has nothing to do with not being able to change your destiny its about making Kabuto accept his destiny instead of being stuck trying to be Orochimaru
You should rewatch the Neji vs Naruto fight. Neji basically said that your destiny is predetermined and you can't change it, whereas Naruto said that it's you who is in charge of your own destiny. Itachi is saying that we just have to accept our destiny as it was laid out, i.e predetermined.
the issue is that kabuto is trying to live orochimarus destiny as opposed to his own hence where itachi needs to convince him to live his own life
OR MAYBE its Kabuto's destiny to live orochimaru's destiny! I'll give you a moment to wrap your head around that one because I know your mind is totally blown away.
Lets be honest here, all this talk about destiny is philosophical bullshit and the writer is just trolling us.
EPT
In that case I think Izanagi is stronger than the cost yes.
