so that means Madara unlocked Rinnegan before he died...? or did kabuto have something to do with it.
and I think the huge rock falling from the sky is the moon containing the juubi?
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
so that means Madara unlocked Rinnegan before he died...? or did kabuto have something to do with it. and I think the huge rock falling from the sky is the moon containing the juubi? | ||
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Sableyeah
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neptunesak
Canada113 Posts
Maybe that's why Tobi collects eyes? Because Madara knows this person, so it has to be someone from his time. t_t | ||
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
On October 20 2011 00:59 neptunesak wrote: Could it be Madara's brother? Say he never really died but just took his eyes. Maybe that's why Tobi collects eyes? Because Madara knows this person, so it has to be someone from his time. t_t Ahhh maybe Tobi is his brother and wants to recreate the Uchiha all over again by making zetsu clones + the dna of each sharingan eyeball = army of uchiha fodders ready at their service | ||
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Spicy_Curry
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Courthead
United States246 Posts
No idea who Tobi could possibly be. Every theory I've read is either pure speculation, or has glaring holes in it. It's important to note that it's somebody Madara actually knows. Also curious how they're going to defeat the Madara summon. He seems pretty fucking invincible, and Naruto is low on chakra. My prediction is that they'll win in 1-2 chapters, but the Tsuchikage will end up sacrificing himself (but not before giving a speech to Naruto and Gaar about the "younger generation" haha). I don't think any good guys of note have died in this war yet, and he's the perfect character to kill off: (1) he's a kage so he's very important to the ninja world, (2) readers won't be upset because he's old, and (3) it's kind of poetic since he has a history with Madara. Basically same formula for killing the Third Hokage. | ||
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AGIANTSMURF
United States1232 Posts
I know he appeared to have died but it could have been some sort of genjutsu O.o | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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Deluge-
United States117 Posts
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Courthead
United States246 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On October 20 2011 01:07 Spicy_Curry wrote: Madara doesnt seem evil? Well from what I have understood the battle between him and the first Hokage was just a sort of a power struggle between 2 clans.It was not a battle between good and evil. | ||
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Keone
United States812 Posts
On October 20 2011 00:59 neptunesak wrote: Could it be Madara's brother? Say he never really died but just took his eyes. Maybe that's why Tobi collects eyes? Because Madara knows this person, so it has to be someone from his time. t_t This is exactly right. The logic is all there. Tobi is definitely Madara's brother. Who else does Madara know in this manga that was alive in his time (such that he'd know who was responsible for this)? Also, who else is genetically powerful enough to do everything Tobi did? Unless the writer suddenly creates a new character (which I doubt at this point in the manga), I'm calling that Tobi is definitely Madara's brother, and was just acting the part because he's so related. | ||
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
On October 20 2011 01:21 Deluge- wrote: After seeing Madara's big jutsu at the end. Makes me wonder how the 1st hokage beat him... I think theres a clue in Gaara's comment that Susano has a weakspot under the ground/sand since its not covered there. I think 1st hokage during the edo fight did some epic tree jutsu named like birth of the forest or something. Basically trees started popping out of the ground? maybe thats how. Plus if we follow tobi's story, it said that madara knew he was going to die in that fight, just to get hashirama's DNA for a purpose. and i think that purpose is to add his DNA to eternal mangekyo to become rinnegan. here's my theory: Madara entered the fight knowing that he had to fake a loss in order to get hashirama's DNA. Once he did that, he purposely got himself stabbed and used izanagi to break all rules of reality and revive himself at the cost of 1 eye. Once hes considered 'dead' and the world wasn't watching him, he started experimenting. then he knew that he was going to die of old-age as even the rikudo senin died of old age. So somewhere along the time when he achieved his goal of getting the rinnegan from adding hashirama's DNA to his Eternal mangekyo sharingan, he died. but not before he met Nagato as a young child and somehow gave him the rinnegan. | ||
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koreasilver
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On October 20 2011 01:37 koreasilver wrote: I think the whole Sharingan turning into a Rinnegan thing is the most stupid idea ever. The Sharingan was already imba since a long time ago, and now the damned thing can turn into something even more imba. Wtf is going on. Whatever happened to the whole "oh, the Sharingan and Byakugan are related". Also, why would they bother making clones with sharingan + rinnegan when it's just a weaker rinnegan. Those fucking eyes man, so ridiculous. | ||
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Emporio
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koreasilver
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On October 20 2011 01:50 Kurr wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2011 01:37 koreasilver wrote: I think the whole Sharingan turning into a Rinnegan thing is the most stupid idea ever. The Sharingan was already imba since a long time ago, and now the damned thing can turn into something even more imba. Wtf is going on. Whatever happened to the whole "oh, the Sharingan and Byakugan are related". Also, why would they bother making clones with sharingan + rinnegan when it's just a weaker rinnegan. Those fucking eyes man, so ridiculous. Taijutsu users are useless because people can summon humongous beasts and shoot goddamned energy beams (tailed beasts), ridiculous elemental stuff (almost everyone that is worth a damn), and freaking meteors. An Uchiha can just use amaterasu and the person is pretty much fucked. A goddamned kage lost one of his arms permanently because Sasuke looked at him funny. This is so ridiculous. | ||
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Gnight
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On October 20 2011 01:59 koreasilver wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2011 01:50 Kurr wrote: On October 20 2011 01:37 koreasilver wrote: I think the whole Sharingan turning into a Rinnegan thing is the most stupid idea ever. The Sharingan was already imba since a long time ago, and now the damned thing can turn into something even more imba. Wtf is going on. Whatever happened to the whole "oh, the Sharingan and Byakugan are related". Also, why would they bother making clones with sharingan + rinnegan when it's just a weaker rinnegan. Those fucking eyes man, so ridiculous. Taijutsu users are useless because people can summon humongous beasts and shoot goddamned energy beams (tailed beasts), ridiculous elemental stuff (almost everyone that is worth a damn), and freaking meteors. An Uchiha can just use amaterasu and the person is pretty much fucked. A goddamned kage lost one of his arms permanently because Sasuke looked at him funny. This is so ridiculous. Not completely useless... There's 1 taijutsu technique (if you can classify it as one) that still has.... some merit in using with all these ridicilously overpowered (non-logical) jutsu's and powers running around. Remember, the eight gate? It's said that you obtain such power that you are pretty much immortal for a short period of time, with unlimited strenght, speed etc. etc. Granted, you die afterwards because of the immense energy/power you release, but it's not like dying matters anymore at this point, you can even get "revived" and be stronger then when you were alive. Wheter the release of the eight gate can still do something against all these jutsu users, I don't know. But to decide on that you need to look at facts and use logic to see if it can hold up against what we see being used here, but... there's a problem in doing that. One shouldn't try to bring logic and reason into this manga anymore, because doing that on itself is a unlogical and unreasonable thing to do. ^ ^ So I think it's safe to say that Kishimoto has caught alot of the readers into a blissfull illusion where the Naruto world still (somehow) makes sense and the story isn't filled with gaping holes left and right. Sweet dreams peeps. xD | ||
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