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On October 16 2011 11:16 XdtA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:59 Quarz wrote: Shisuis eye was pretty special, why shouldn't Obitos eyes not special too. There is no other Uchiha that uses time space jutsus.0
And why are you sure that it was his right eye that Tobi used for Izanagi? You mean left eye? You can see it closing in this chapter. http://www.mangareader.net/93-57473-10/naruto/chapter-510.html
But his normal eye that you see through the mask is the right Eye. Kakashi has Obitos left eye. The he doesn't use "Obitos" eye for Izanagi.
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On October 16 2011 10:59 Quarz wrote: Shisuis eye was pretty special, why shouldn't Obitos eyes not special too. There is no other Uchiha that uses time space jutsus.0
And why are you sure that it was his right eye that Tobi used for Izanagi? I didn't? Basic maths :S 2 eyes - 1 /= 2 eyes left.
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For the entire Obito is Tobi theory to work the whole "getting crushed under a rock" scenario had to be an illusion he generated for them, with him giving kakashi one of his eyes being the only real part of the interaction. After that anything could have happened... since we're making up conspiracy stories here : P
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On October 16 2011 20:18 Confuse wrote: For the entire Obito is Tobi theory to work the whole "getting crushed under a rock" scenario had to be an illusion he generated for them, with him giving kakashi one of his eyes being the only real part of the interaction. After that anything could have happened... since we're making up conspiracy stories here : P If he used inizagi, then he would have lost one of his eyes anyway, and the otherr one he gave to kakashi, that means 2-1-1=0 for Tobi to steal from. But let's face it, a 16 years old boy on his first mission can use inizagi? i doubt it, especially that he just obtained his sharingan in that mission as well.
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On October 16 2011 19:57 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:59 Quarz wrote: Shisuis eye was pretty special, why shouldn't Obitos eyes not special too. There is no other Uchiha that uses time space jutsus.0
And why are you sure that it was his right eye that Tobi used for Izanagi? I didn't? Basic maths :S 2 eyes - 1 /= 2 eyes left. 2-1=1 left
The rock didnt crush his brain and left him alive for some time. Therefore it is possible the eye survived too.
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Madara couldn't be shishui,Danzo had one of his eyes when he died and Itachi used amaterasu to destroy the other eye in the crow after he was freed from the rewakening jutsu. The only possible other Uchiha I can think of is Obito.
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How many Uchiha eyes does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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On October 17 2011 01:12 Kyhol wrote: How many Uchiha eyes does it take to screw in a light bulb? 2n-1
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On October 16 2011 20:25 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 20:18 Confuse wrote: For the entire Obito is Tobi theory to work the whole "getting crushed under a rock" scenario had to be an illusion he generated for them, with him giving kakashi one of his eyes being the only real part of the interaction. After that anything could have happened... since we're making up conspiracy stories here : P If he used inizagi, then he would have lost one of his eyes anyway, and the otherr one he gave to kakashi, that means 2-1-1=0 for Tobi to steal from. But let's face it, a 16 years old boy on his first mission can use inizagi? i doubt it, especially that he just obtained his sharingan in that mission as well.
Why would he have to use Izanagi to generate an illusion? Since it's a conspiracy theory, all that had to happen was Obito dodges the rock, creates an illusion for his two partners to see him crushed under a rock, much like kakashi showed a dying bleeding sasuke to sakura early on.
I'm not saying it's what I think happened, but it is possible because of the ridiculous nature of illusions in this manga.
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jesus christ.. obito is NOT tobi. there is ABSOLUTELY NO relation between the two. one is a badass villian and the other is just a random ninja that was brought into the story to explain the sharingan that Kakashi possesses.
Period.
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Yes.. there seems to be NO connections. That's exactly what makes it all the more epic when connections are pulled straight out of the author's ass. Just piles and piles of connections, fresh and steamy. The things that seemed coincidental are actually just clues of events that has been unfolding behind the scenes for aeons.
It's like when Futurama revealed that Fry's time travel was planned by the Nibloneans. You go back and see the shadow and bricks are shat.
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On October 17 2011 01:03 mptj wrote: Madara couldn't be shishui,Danzo had one of his eyes when he died and Itachi used amaterasu to destroy the other eye in the crow after he was freed from the rewakening jutsu. The only possible other Uchiha I can think of is Obito.
What about Kagami Uchiha? All we know about him was that he was there when Tobirama died.
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What about if it was some other Uchiha who we know barely anything about? No, it's most likely Obito, since he's a character who we know (at least a bit about) and raises the least amount of questions and face-palms.
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How could it be Obito? From the little we saw of Tobi, he's all wrinkly and stuff. Obito is the same age as Kakashi.
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If you going to come up with a theory about who Tobi is at least have it make more sense than Obito. Why would Obito give his Sharingan to Kakashi if he had this big evil plan? Tobi ≠ Obito. Tobi = Tobirama He invented the Edo Tesei, was very skilled in Space-Time ninjutu, is dead so wanted the Rinne Tensei for himself and we've already seen that anybody can take a sharingan. Also Tobirama.
To be clear I know that it's not Tobirama, but the clues that everybody is finding points more towards him than Obito.
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On October 17 2011 10:27 kakaman wrote: How could it be Obito? From the little we saw of Tobi, he's all wrinkly and stuff. Obito is the same age as Kakashi. Maybe kakashi is all wrinkly under that mask
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Tobi is going to be Madara from another dimension or some shit like that. Either that or just a perma clone with nothing underneath the mask.
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it could be madara's brother. hes the only other uchiha that loss 1 eye from madara and was strong as him.
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Why does everyone seem to think it's Obito... the logic seems to be that Obito, through really really sketchy ways, somehow survived. Well there's so many more powerful Uchiha that were more likely to survive than the young Obito; it's almost guaranteed that it's not Obito, unless Kishimoto wants to mindfuck everyone
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