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Lol I like how they put Dan (Tsunade's love interest) in the mix. Also it's crazy how they got Neji's father u_u... That will be drama. Sooo much drama ahead.
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On November 05 2010 02:54 Murderotica wrote:
Lol I like how they put Dan (Tsunade's love interest) in the mix. Also it's crazy how they got Neji's father u_u... That will be drama. Sooo much drama ahead.
I see a hundred more chapters with fillers.
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On November 05 2010 07:08 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 02:54 Murderotica wrote:
Lol I like how they put Dan (Tsunade's love interest) in the mix. Also it's crazy how they got Neji's father u_u... That will be drama. Sooo much drama ahead. I see a hundred more chapters with fillers.
FLASH BACK TIME! sweet nothing says we ran out of shit to write about like filing out backstory retroactively right before something big is about to happen.
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I'm so tempted to refrain from naruto and read it in bulk at christmas to go through all the flash back + old friend/enemy type battles that will probaby be pretty boring. Reading 1 chapter a week only works when the manga is at an interesting point.
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On November 04 2010 04:15 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 03:31 Roaming wrote:On November 03 2010 23:50 shannn wrote:Just give me Naruto with the Flying Thunder God Technique. All I'm asking so I can stop reading Naruto  He pretty much already has it. I'm waiting for the power Itachi gave Naruto. Yay he resummed Hanzo. That guy is ballercraft. Yes because there is nothing that strikes fear more than an overgrown salamander.
It's like a frog/snake/slug all rolled into one.
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On November 03 2010 23:42 Scorcher2k wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 21:57 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes. Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful. Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan. At the same time that they explain how each person has different elemental abilities they also explain that people can possess multiple... This was also explained several other times... I really think the we're in for a plot twist. I do not think that Kabuto is out to help Madara win this war. He led the group from konoha straight to Madara's hide out on purpose. I would not even be surprised if it turns out that instead of either kabuto or orochimaru being in control it is some sort of mad fusion because this really is another DBZ at this point.
Well that means Kakashi would have water element inside him too right? means he have a bloodline limit with those 2 element. But how did he really copy besides copying handsigns and out comes a water dragon. What if its another element that is not his type? :S
Funny with the mizukage "I have 3 elements, means I have 2 bloodline limit."
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Zabuza would be owned very qucikly by any of the main characters, but who will fight him? I think that if Konohamaru would fight him it would be one epic battle because naruto fought zabuza too a bit, and konohamaru is like a little naruto right? would make sense...
and thank god they didnt bring jiraiya back but where's itachi? ik wouldve expected him
Hanzo is motherfucking badass, gg no re
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I thought they vaguely went into any skilled ninja to learn to do one or more types but it just takes a ton of time. But mixing different nature types is outside of realm of what can be learned and has to be inherited.
Mizukage can combine 3 elements together Kakashi can do none. He individually uses lighting and earth alot but never together.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-321-21/naruto/chapter-316.html
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On November 05 2010 14:50 yrag89 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 23:42 Scorcher2k wrote:On November 03 2010 21:57 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes. Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful. Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan. At the same time that they explain how each person has different elemental abilities they also explain that people can possess multiple... This was also explained several other times... I really think the we're in for a plot twist. I do not think that Kabuto is out to help Madara win this war. He led the group from konoha straight to Madara's hide out on purpose. I would not even be surprised if it turns out that instead of either kabuto or orochimaru being in control it is some sort of mad fusion because this really is another DBZ at this point. Well that means Kakashi would have water element inside him too right? means he have a bloodline limit with those 2 element. But how did he really copy besides copying handsigns and out comes a water dragon. What if its another element that is not his type? :S Funny with the mizukage "I have 3 elements, means I have 2 bloodline limit."
A bloodline limit is combining two elements into a new element and use that in a technique
Being able to have multiple elements doesnt give you bloodline limit powers.
It is the bloodline limit that lets you combine two elements into a new element.
Like water + earth = wood, only a few people can do that
The people that can combine elements into new ones are few.
And then there are the Ocular bloodline limits.
And that bone thing that Kimimaro does.
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On November 05 2010 14:50 yrag89 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 23:42 Scorcher2k wrote:On November 03 2010 21:57 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes. Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful. Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan. At the same time that they explain how each person has different elemental abilities they also explain that people can possess multiple... This was also explained several other times... I really think the we're in for a plot twist. I do not think that Kabuto is out to help Madara win this war. He led the group from konoha straight to Madara's hide out on purpose. I would not even be surprised if it turns out that instead of either kabuto or orochimaru being in control it is some sort of mad fusion because this really is another DBZ at this point. Well that means Kakashi would have water element inside him too right? means he have a bloodline limit with those 2 element. But how did he really copy besides copying handsigns and out comes a water dragon. What if its another element that is not his type? :S Funny with the mizukage "I have 3 elements, means I have 2 bloodline limit."
What the two guys above me have said is correct. Also, copy ninja Kakashi can emulate any earth, fire, lightning, or water ninjutsu, that isn't a bloodline limit, that he sees. But he couldn't use a wind element ninjutsu for example. Pain I believe is the only one that has been able to use all of the elements because of the rinnengan.
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On November 05 2010 18:03 Sqalevon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 14:50 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 23:42 Scorcher2k wrote:On November 03 2010 21:57 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes. Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful. Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan. At the same time that they explain how each person has different elemental abilities they also explain that people can possess multiple... This was also explained several other times... I really think the we're in for a plot twist. I do not think that Kabuto is out to help Madara win this war. He led the group from konoha straight to Madara's hide out on purpose. I would not even be surprised if it turns out that instead of either kabuto or orochimaru being in control it is some sort of mad fusion because this really is another DBZ at this point. Well that means Kakashi would have water element inside him too right? means he have a bloodline limit with those 2 element. But how did he really copy besides copying handsigns and out comes a water dragon. What if its another element that is not his type? :S Funny with the mizukage "I have 3 elements, means I have 2 bloodline limit." A bloodline limit is combining two elements into a new element and use that in a technique Being able to have multiple elements doesnt give you bloodline limit powers. It is the bloodline limit that lets you combine two elements into a new element. Like water + earth = wood, only a few people can do that The people that can combine elements into new ones are few. And then there are the Ocular bloodline limits. And that bone thing that Kimimaro does.
as the end of your post hints, i don't think combining elements has anything to do with bloodline limits
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On November 06 2010 00:56 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 18:03 Sqalevon wrote:On November 05 2010 14:50 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 23:42 Scorcher2k wrote:On November 03 2010 21:57 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes. Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful. Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan. At the same time that they explain how each person has different elemental abilities they also explain that people can possess multiple... This was also explained several other times... I really think the we're in for a plot twist. I do not think that Kabuto is out to help Madara win this war. He led the group from konoha straight to Madara's hide out on purpose. I would not even be surprised if it turns out that instead of either kabuto or orochimaru being in control it is some sort of mad fusion because this really is another DBZ at this point. Well that means Kakashi would have water element inside him too right? means he have a bloodline limit with those 2 element. But how did he really copy besides copying handsigns and out comes a water dragon. What if its another element that is not his type? :S Funny with the mizukage "I have 3 elements, means I have 2 bloodline limit." A bloodline limit is combining two elements into a new element and use that in a technique Being able to have multiple elements doesnt give you bloodline limit powers. It is the bloodline limit that lets you combine two elements into a new element. Like water + earth = wood, only a few people can do that The people that can combine elements into new ones are few. And then there are the Ocular bloodline limits. And that bone thing that Kimimaro does. as the end of your post hints, i don't think combining elements has anything to do with bloodline limits
It's never given a great explanation in the manga he just say this is how it is.
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On November 05 2010 14:50 yrag89 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 23:42 Scorcher2k wrote:On November 03 2010 21:57 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes. Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful. Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan. At the same time that they explain how each person has different elemental abilities they also explain that people can possess multiple... This was also explained several other times... I really think the we're in for a plot twist. I do not think that Kabuto is out to help Madara win this war. He led the group from konoha straight to Madara's hide out on purpose. I would not even be surprised if it turns out that instead of either kabuto or orochimaru being in control it is some sort of mad fusion because this really is another DBZ at this point. Well that means Kakashi would have water element inside him too right? means he have a bloodline limit with those 2 element. But how did he really copy besides copying handsigns and out comes a water dragon. What if its another element that is not his type? :S Funny with the mizukage "I have 3 elements, means I have 2 bloodline limit."
You are naturally born with 1 or 2 (rare cases with more) elemental affinities but some experienced ninjas can use any of the elements.
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On November 06 2010 00:56 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 18:03 Sqalevon wrote:On November 05 2010 14:50 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 23:42 Scorcher2k wrote:On November 03 2010 21:57 yrag89 wrote:On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes. Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful. Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan. At the same time that they explain how each person has different elemental abilities they also explain that people can possess multiple... This was also explained several other times... I really think the we're in for a plot twist. I do not think that Kabuto is out to help Madara win this war. He led the group from konoha straight to Madara's hide out on purpose. I would not even be surprised if it turns out that instead of either kabuto or orochimaru being in control it is some sort of mad fusion because this really is another DBZ at this point. Well that means Kakashi would have water element inside him too right? means he have a bloodline limit with those 2 element. But how did he really copy besides copying handsigns and out comes a water dragon. What if its another element that is not his type? :S Funny with the mizukage "I have 3 elements, means I have 2 bloodline limit." A bloodline limit is combining two elements into a new element and use that in a technique Being able to have multiple elements doesnt give you bloodline limit powers. It is the bloodline limit that lets you combine two elements into a new element. Like water + earth = wood, only a few people can do that The people that can combine elements into new ones are few. And then there are the Ocular bloodline limits. And that bone thing that Kimimaro does. as the end of your post hints, i don't think combining elements has anything to do with bloodline limits
The ability to mix two elements in a way that no one out of your family can is considered a blood line. Examples: First Hokage/Yamato = earth + water = wood, Haku = water + wind = ice.
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Thus far, everyone has 1 affinity to an element, and jounin level ninja typically learn minor usage of other elements. Each bloodline has a special body part(eyes, bones, etc) or combination element(wood, ice, etc). Saskue for example is lightning element affinity, but knows fire as well.
Kakazu could use all 5 elements with affinity. Hence baller.
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There's a perfectly fine explanation ion bloodline limits right here. Besides, let him revive everyone if he wants, Naruto is so freaking buffed right now he could probably kill everyone (except maybe white snake, sasuke and madara) instantly.
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On November 05 2010 02:01 Slaughter wrote:
Wait I have to ask those who thought that Kakashi and Zabuza were fighting on equal terms. Did you WATCH those episodes? Their 1st fight Kakashi wtf raped him. He had Zabuza freaking out by the end of it. The only reason why he had any advantage at all was because he had to worry about the kids and the people they were protecting. Their 2nd battle Haku had given Zabuza a great battle plan and he STILL got owned when Kakashi LET HIM cut him with his sword so his ninja dogs could get him. Zabuza was not impressive at all in that fight and he would be rofl stomped by
any of the main characters now.
First fight Zabuza had Kakashi in a water prison and was saved by the kids, if anything, Zabuza was at a disadvantage.
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On November 10 2010 12:34 TwoPac wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 02:01 Slaughter wrote:
Wait I have to ask those who thought that Kakashi and Zabuza were fighting on equal terms. Did you WATCH those episodes? Their 1st fight Kakashi wtf raped him. He had Zabuza freaking out by the end of it. The only reason why he had any advantage at all was because he had to worry about the kids and the people they were protecting. Their 2nd battle Haku had given Zabuza a great battle plan and he STILL got owned when Kakashi LET HIM cut him with his sword so his ninja dogs could get him. Zabuza was not impressive at all in that fight and he would be rofl stomped by
any of the main characters now. First fight Zabuza had Kakashi in a water prison and was saved by the kids, if anything, Zabuza was at a disadvantage.
Goddamnit, i automatically went to check mangastream because of this bump!
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On November 10 2010 12:36 O-ops wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 12:34 TwoPac wrote:On November 05 2010 02:01 Slaughter wrote:
Wait I have to ask those who thought that Kakashi and Zabuza were fighting on equal terms. Did you WATCH those episodes? Their 1st fight Kakashi wtf raped him. He had Zabuza freaking out by the end of it. The only reason why he had any advantage at all was because he had to worry about the kids and the people they were protecting. Their 2nd battle Haku had given Zabuza a great battle plan and he STILL got owned when Kakashi LET HIM cut him with his sword so his ninja dogs could get him. Zabuza was not impressive at all in that fight and he would be rofl stomped by
any of the main characters now. First fight Zabuza had Kakashi in a water prison and was saved by the kids, if anything, Zabuza was at a disadvantage. Goddamnit, i automatically went to check mangastream because of this bump!
fffuuu lol... i did the same thing. i'm expecting this chapter to either be more epic or epic fail by kishimoto. 70% chance it will be a fail.
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On November 08 2010 16:58 Roaming wrote:
Thus far, everyone has 1 affinity to an element, and jounin level ninja typically learn minor usage of other elements. Each bloodline has a special body part(eyes, bones, etc) or combination element(wood, ice, etc). Saskue for example is lightning element affinity, but knows fire as well.
Kakazu could use all 5 elements with affinity. Hence baller.
I don't understand what the hell is so difficult to understand about ninjas being able to use different elements... They are simply born with an affinity to a certain number of elements, meaning they are able to use ninjutsu of that element. If a ninja was not born with an elemental affinity then they are not able to suddenly learn it in the future. The only way to overcome it is to do something like kakazu or switch bodies like orochimaru (or possibly pick up the rinnengan).
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