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kalimari
Profile Joined October 2010
United States57 Posts
November 03 2010 06:28 GMT
#4541
It would make more sense for there to be more characters that have never been introduced before, but for them to just reuse mostly old characters? Meh. It's like the scope of the ninja world is not as large as the author would want us to think. Interested to see something more about the other jinchurikis though. Please have at least major 5 characters die permanently as well. This is war.

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyone think that this is turning into an epic war similar to one piece?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 06:33:58
November 03 2010 06:30 GMT
#4542
Boo why do you have to quote me after I edited.
On November 03 2010 15:26 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 15:22 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 03 2010 15:04 anch wrote:
On November 03 2010 11:05 Ilikestarcraft wrote:

Why wouldn't he summon the Jinchurikis? You saw the 8 tail. Even without the 8 tail's power he was incredibly strong. The Jinchurikis weren't chosen by random luck. I remember it was Deidara? vs the 2nd tail I don't which excatly except that it was a girl, but she could control her tailed beast and transformed into it. That takes a lot of skill.

do you guys not realized they will be nerfed since they are separated from their beast? iirc the giant head with 2 hand statue pulled it out, now madara is keeping them somewhere. I dont think i am 100% correct but if the zombie Jinchurikis can transform or borrow beast charkras, then this shit is wrong. Why not summon all previous Jinchurikis? (naruto's mom, the hokage's wife, etc)
This is why i am saying they are normal ninjas at best,

8-tail was strong cuz he trained with his brother on that turtle island. Was kid Naruto strong? no, of course they werent chosen by luck, that mean they werent born with godly power either.

Uh did you read what I wrote. I know they're going to be weaker without their tailed beast but they aren't normal ninjas at best like you said. I don't know the exact intention for why the guy brought them back. For all I know it could be because he just wanted to fill in character space. But in my opinion even so these guys aren't your everyday run of your mill ninjas. They were chosen for their abilities in being able to in the future to control the tailed beast. Its not surprising how both Gaara and the eight tail had birth status. Gaara was strong without the help from the 1 tail. Even when the 1 tail got extracted he is still the Kazekage. Are you trying to say that the average ninja could control a tail beast? And what are you talking about kid naruto being weak. Kid Naruto was strong with all his hacking kage bunshins and rasengan.This show is all about how strong Naruto is.

Actually, we haven't seen Gaara fight since he got his tailed beast removed. Can he still put up a fight? Or is he just like super lame now?

Literally every Gaara fight we seen was him fighting without his tailed beast. Out of all the Jinchurikis, Gaara was the only one it seemed who never used his tailed beast's power by choice. For example when he was fighting Rock Lee, Sasuke, the bone guy(lol forgot his name) and Deidara. You never saw him using its power.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
November 03 2010 06:35 GMT
#4543
I'm sure kishi will make the fights interesting. I really wanna see how the kage's fight and how hanzo fights. I think the resurrected shinobi will have the same abilities as before but will be faster and stronger. I wanna see how kimimaro fights... he's still my fav character in naruto... too bad he died early.
asianskill
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States289 Posts
November 03 2010 06:36 GMT
#4544
best chapter in years?
herrro
lordmordor
Profile Joined February 2009
United States209 Posts
November 03 2010 06:38 GMT
#4545
Gaara has had a brief encounter with Sasuke during the Kage Summit. He is still able to control sand...at most all he lost was the auto-shield and Shukaku's extra chakra reserves...but he never tapped into that anyway.


As others have said, Jinchuriki's are still not normal fodder ninja, at the least they are mid-high jonin level. Kabuto is reviving anyone he can get his hands on, and Kishi doesn't want to do new characters obviously....and its a chance for us to learn more about the others anyway
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
November 03 2010 06:47 GMT
#4546
On November 03 2010 15:38 lordmordor wrote:
As others have said, Jinchuriki's are still not normal fodder ninja, at the least they are mid-high jonin level.


or...Babies

I also don't like the reviving of the dead. The Naruto Ninja World is so much about Chakra and Chakra is clearly something for those who live.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
November 03 2010 06:51 GMT
#4547
wow, epic chapter IMO, thank god we arent seeing kakashi's dad being revived, that would render kakashi useless if he were to fight his own father but i hope with all my heart kakashi wont die, he is the best manga character EVER, imo
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
November 03 2010 06:51 GMT
#4548
On November 03 2010 15:36 asianskill wrote:
best chapter in years?


a fight is starting does not make a good chapter...
its better than a couple of the bad ones though.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
November 03 2010 07:12 GMT
#4549
On November 03 2010 15:36 asianskill wrote:
best chapter in years?


Agreed. Absolutely epic. Seeing everyones development come full circle and their preparing for the 4th world war was amazing. Kabuto is freaking epic.... Why he called the 8 and 9 tail's capture impossible boggles my mind considering he has the former akatsuki members summoned (Including Itachi and Nagato) for God's sakes, former Jinchuuriki, previous hokages, and then other famous ninjas (Including that dude that pein killed, and who dubbed the "3 sennin"). Jesus. He's the most broken character in the manga as far as I'm concerned. But let's not forget that he also led the leaf forces to Madara;s lair so he's definitely up to something.
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dbizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
November 03 2010 07:18 GMT
#4550
I dont think these fights are going to be one on one, it would be more interesting if they had teams where they would compliment each other. As you seen in the past it was always teams vs 1 villain, now imagine teams vs team villains. I think the fights will be a lot closer
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
November 03 2010 07:28 GMT
#4551
On November 03 2010 15:30 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Boo why do you have to quote me after I edited.
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 15:26 Gummy wrote:
On November 03 2010 15:22 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 03 2010 15:04 anch wrote:
On November 03 2010 11:05 Ilikestarcraft wrote:

Why wouldn't he summon the Jinchurikis? You saw the 8 tail. Even without the 8 tail's power he was incredibly strong. The Jinchurikis weren't chosen by random luck. I remember it was Deidara? vs the 2nd tail I don't which excatly except that it was a girl, but she could control her tailed beast and transformed into it. That takes a lot of skill.

do you guys not realized they will be nerfed since they are separated from their beast? iirc the giant head with 2 hand statue pulled it out, now madara is keeping them somewhere. I dont think i am 100% correct but if the zombie Jinchurikis can transform or borrow beast charkras, then this shit is wrong. Why not summon all previous Jinchurikis? (naruto's mom, the hokage's wife, etc)
This is why i am saying they are normal ninjas at best,

8-tail was strong cuz he trained with his brother on that turtle island. Was kid Naruto strong? no, of course they werent chosen by luck, that mean they werent born with godly power either.

Uh did you read what I wrote. I know they're going to be weaker without their tailed beast but they aren't normal ninjas at best like you said. I don't know the exact intention for why the guy brought them back. For all I know it could be because he just wanted to fill in character space. But in my opinion even so these guys aren't your everyday run of your mill ninjas. They were chosen for their abilities in being able to in the future to control the tailed beast. Its not surprising how both Gaara and the eight tail had birth status. Gaara was strong without the help from the 1 tail. Even when the 1 tail got extracted he is still the Kazekage. Are you trying to say that the average ninja could control a tail beast? And what are you talking about kid naruto being weak. Kid Naruto was strong with all his hacking kage bunshins and rasengan.This show is all about how strong Naruto is.

Actually, we haven't seen Gaara fight since he got his tailed beast removed. Can he still put up a fight? Or is he just like super lame now?

Literally every Gaara fight we seen was him fighting without his tailed beast. Out of all the Jinchurikis, Gaara was the only one it seemed who never used his tailed beast's power by choice. For example when he was fighting Rock Lee, Sasuke, the bone guy(lol forgot his name) and Deidara. You never saw him using its power.

I realize he didn't do the transformation, but he was still using the beast's chakra to be able to do all that crazy stuff right?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
lordmordor
Profile Joined February 2009
United States209 Posts
November 03 2010 07:41 GMT
#4552
no, the only time Gaara ever used Shukaku's chakra was during the Chunin exam attack...everything else was just his own chakra supply

Demon hosts in general have above average chakra supplies due to having the demons chakra system mixed with their own. Gaara never gained control over his demon like Killer Bee did, if he started using the demons chakra, Shukaku would have begun taking over and he would have started transforming
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
November 03 2010 07:44 GMT
#4553
Putting all the dead character ludicrousness aside for a second, Kishi really has to learn from the epic mistakes that Bleach made in it's recent war arc. If we have 6 months of chapters where Neji is fighting is zombie dad and Ino-Shika-Chou are fighting zombie Asuma it's going to be a complete train wreck. Kishi has to somehow balance all of this out. Oda did it really well in the recent One Piece war arc but the difference here is that this is very likely the end of Naruto. The One Piece arc worked so well because everything didn't have to be resolved, it was a story about WB and Ace and Oda didn't have to spend entire chapters on Mihawk fighting Marco for example. Here Kishi has to resolve everything just like Kubo tried to resolve everything in his war arc and I think whatever ends up happening, justice won't really be done to all the characters involved.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
November 03 2010 08:17 GMT
#4554
On November 03 2010 16:41 lordmordor wrote:
no, the only time Gaara ever used Shukaku's chakra was during the Chunin exam attack...everything else was just his own chakra supply

Demon hosts in general have above average chakra supplies due to having the demons chakra system mixed with their own. Gaara never gained control over his demon like Killer Bee did, if he started using the demons chakra, Shukaku would have begun taking over and he would have started transforming

Whoah. He is the most imba character there is then. Like he can turn an ENTIRE FUCKING DESERT into stone. WTF?!?!?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 03 2010 11:29 GMT
#4555
So this chapter was a huge stylistic ripoff/homage (depending on how you look at it) to One Piece, right?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Horangi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Hong Kong226 Posts
November 03 2010 12:43 GMT
#4556
i find it pretty hilarious when people first complain about: X died so fast!! this sucks!
now people are complaining about: X got revived again?! this sucks!

imo, this chapter gave me chills, so much hype right now about the big battle
yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
November 03 2010 12:57 GMT
#4557
On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes.

Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful.


Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls

After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan.
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
November 03 2010 14:42 GMT
#4558
On November 03 2010 21:57 yrag89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 15:12 Sentenal wrote:
On November 03 2010 14:12 Funnytoss wrote:
Zabuza was on par with Kakashi *back then*... Kakashi has improved insanely since then (as well as all the other living characters), so it's hard for me to see how this could be even remotely close, based upon "normal" logic. Of course, this is Kishimoto. He lives for plot holes.

Kakashi got new eye powers, but in terms of strength, speed, and jutsu, he isn't much different from when he fought Zabuza. I'm not saying that Zabuza=Kakashi, or that he would be able to fight on par with him now, but even back then Kakashi/Zabuza were considered insanely powerful.


Back then was ninjas vs ninjas with no pokemon element bs with everyone mostly only does element from their respective village eg. hidden mist=water, hidden leaf=fire as a 'technique'. After the introduction of element features in each characters, it makes me wonder how did Kakashi even copied zabuza's water element when he is of lightning. No bloodline limit bs pls

After that all we see is, raikiri. In trouble...raikiri, final blow.....raikiri. or screw copy, I imba hax blackhole them with sharingan.

At the same time that they explain how each person has different elemental abilities they also explain that people can possess multiple... This was also explained several other times...

I really think the we're in for a plot twist. I do not think that Kabuto is out to help Madara win this war. He led the group from konoha straight to Madara's hide out on purpose. I would not even be surprised if it turns out that instead of either kabuto or orochimaru being in control it is some sort of mad fusion because this really is another DBZ at this point.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
November 03 2010 14:50 GMT
#4559
Just give me Naruto with the Flying Thunder God Technique.
All I'm asking so I can stop reading Naruto
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Roaming
Profile Joined May 2010
United States239 Posts
November 03 2010 18:31 GMT
#4560
On November 03 2010 23:50 shannn wrote:
Just give me Naruto with the Flying Thunder God Technique.
All I'm asking so I can stop reading Naruto


He pretty much already has it.

I'm waiting for the power Itachi gave Naruto.

Yay he resummed Hanzo. That guy is ballercraft.
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