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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 17:37:56
July 23 2017 17:35 GMT
#1961
On July 24 2017 02:14 LegalLord wrote:
Blue has highly variable power based on plot necessity.

Beerus would say stop screwing around and finish her. I also think Goku is pretty good at not using his full power, so yeah he was probably not near his full power of SSBlue this episode, even if it is really confusing and dumb.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 23 2017 17:39 GMT
#1962
The problem is how they wrote Goku's character. Whenever he doesn't shit stomp people they just say "he likes to hold back". So it will become fine that he seemingly did no damage when he blasted Kale in the face because he was "holding back".
Never Knows Best.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 24 2017 00:45 GMT
#1963
This feels a lot like 18 body slamming Vegeta in the Android saga. Oh look, this incredible transformation that was a game changer before doesn't amount to much more than a warm-up for some new opponent. I smell a transformation coming. And tbh, it might not be Goku who has it.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 03:29:14
July 24 2017 03:25 GMT
#1964
On July 24 2017 02:14 LegalLord wrote:
Blue has highly variable power based on plot necessity.

The whole point of SSB is that you have way better control of your energy..... literally 2 episodes ago they talk about conserving energy.
Moderatorlickypiddy
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 24 2017 05:00 GMT
#1965
This episode wasn't too bad. I gotta agree, we got robbed of a Jiren vs Hit fight. The whole SSJ2 powerup from Caulifa, not a big deal imo since they showed her doing it before. Goku saying she may go SSJ3 was a bit much. Kale going on a rampage was great, needed to do more though since as we know, she was targeting Goku for most of it.

Her taking a full kamehameha wave from SSB was something I frowned upon because cmon, what the hell lol. SSB is close to the gods' level yet she continued walking. You can argue that Goku wasn't at full power and sure, no Kaioken. We also did see him increase the power once but ignoring kaioken, he was already at full power (or looked like) when he did the increase so I think this, much like the SSJ3 bit, was a bit much. Then of course, Jiren with the single attack takes out Kale even though she was a bit unguarded. It really made SSB look petty seeing as Goku could barely do anything while it seemed like a joke to Jiren...

Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 10:52:15
July 24 2017 10:51 GMT
#1966
On July 24 2017 12:25 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:14 LegalLord wrote:
Blue has highly variable power based on plot necessity.

The whole point of SSB is that you have way better control of your energy..... literally 2 episodes ago they talk about conserving energy.

+ Show Spoiler +
In the manga the biggest weakness of Blue is that even the transformation alone uses up far too much energy to carelessly go into the form (this being the main reason Vegeta got completely trashed by Hit). Meanwhile in the anime, this is a complete non-issue and Goku probably considered going Blue to take on possessed Roshi.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 24 2017 15:50 GMT
#1967
Big issue right now is the fact that we really don't have a solid definition of blue. Ultimate power control (they directly said it was this) or instead somewhat of a mega super saiyan with really fast energy drain (they also said this). It honestly feels like it varies.

Regardless, Goku has been made to look deficient and I can't imagine that lasting unless Gohan is about to get some kind of complete madness bullshit transformation. But no matter how you slice it, Blue has become somewhat dated at this point and it is hard to imagine Jiren being bothered by Blue.

Perhaps Goku does some kinda 100x KK in blue? I was starting to wonder if the fact that Beerus shit his pants when Goku went 10x kk blue means that a 100x kk blue would be enough to beat Beerus. Perhaps having a power that high ends up inducing some kind of god form in Goku? I can imagine a scenario in which Goku kind of stumbles upon a new form on accident as a result of hitting some insane energy level. I would buy the idea that Goku 100x kk blue would beat Jiren.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
July 24 2017 17:23 GMT
#1968
+ Show Spoiler [manga] +
Well, Zamasu arc is done in the manga. Less powerups, different kind of bullshit, quite a bit shorter. Better than the anime, arc still weak at the end, more Pilaf plz.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 24 2017 18:51 GMT
#1969
+ Show Spoiler [manga] +


On July 25 2017 02:23 Dark_Chill wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [manga] +
Well, Zamasu arc is done in the manga. Less powerups, different kind of bullshit, quite a bit shorter. Better than the anime, arc still weak at the end, more Pilaf plz.


At the end of the day, you simply can not have a villain which is immortal unless the objective is eliminating the immortality. I really just don't see how this arc ever could have gone well. Doomed from the start.

LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 24 2017 18:53 GMT
#1970
+ Show Spoiler +
The fusion should have killed immortality. Why they didn't take such a perfect opportunity is beyond me.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 24 2017 18:59 GMT
#1971
On July 25 2017 03:53 LegalLord wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The fusion should have killed immortality. Why they didn't take such a perfect opportunity is beyond me.

+ Show Spoiler +
What gets me is that they teased doing that in the anime, and changed tack and made him some weird omnipresent shitbag instead. They had the chance, and wanted us to think they were taking it.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
July 25 2017 17:34 GMT
#1972
+ Show Spoiler +
they could had find a way to seal him i guess.
Still the manga was way better executed, and Blue actually has been the same since it appeared in the manga.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 25 2017 18:14 GMT
#1973
+ Show Spoiler [more manga stuff] +
My favorite part that was manga only was when Goku managed to use Destruction on Zamasu.
The idea that he's starting to broach GoD levels and can just make someone disappear is really cool to me.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 25 2017 18:39 GMT
#1974
Just gonna leave this here.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
July 25 2017 21:33 GMT
#1975
If I assume that SSJB derives its entire power from plot requirements and therefore has unlimited potential then I can deal with it.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
July 26 2017 01:02 GMT
#1976
On July 26 2017 03:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Just gonna leave this here.
https://youtu.be/FJBgzX2HMe8?t=16m51s

I think I like this Broly way more.
"You dirty, dirty boy"
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 26 2017 02:35 GMT
#1977
On July 26 2017 10:02 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2017 03:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Just gonna leave this here.
https://youtu.be/FJBgzX2HMe8?t=16m51s

I think I like this Broly way more.
"You dirty, dirty boy"

I think the guys who do this should be given a VA job somewhere. They nail all of the characters perfectly in my opinion.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 26 2017 03:02 GMT
#1978
On July 26 2017 11:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2017 10:02 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2017 03:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Just gonna leave this here.
https://youtu.be/FJBgzX2HMe8?t=16m51s

I think I like this Broly way more.
"You dirty, dirty boy"

I think the guys who do this should be given a VA job somewhere. They nail all of the characters perfectly in my opinion.

Some do have VA roles in different shows/games.
Moderatorlickypiddy
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 26 2017 03:13 GMT
#1979
On July 26 2017 12:02 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2017 11:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On July 26 2017 10:02 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 26 2017 03:39 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Just gonna leave this here.
https://youtu.be/FJBgzX2HMe8?t=16m51s

I think I like this Broly way more.
"You dirty, dirty boy"

I think the guys who do this should be given a VA job somewhere. They nail all of the characters perfectly in my opinion.

Some do have VA roles in different shows/games.

LIST!!!!!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 26 2017 12:41 GMT
#1980


Decent video about a big problem in fighting shonen anime, especially applicable to Dragonball imo.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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