• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:55
CEST 01:55
KST 08:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy3[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
BSL Season 234Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy BSL Season 23 Bot on ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 16806 users

Dragon Ball Super Discussion - Page 95

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 212 Next
This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 16 2017 05:00 GMT
#1881
+ Show Spoiler +
Think of the time that has passed in the tournament as 1 Namek.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 16 2017 05:35 GMT
#1882
Why are you guys using spoilers? lol. If it's manga spoilers, sure but this is the anime discussion thread and it should be well known by this point that Saturday posts are likely containing the latest updates


Having said that, this episode was pretty good overall. Ending was pretty funny lol. I'm so excited for next week but I'm gonna be pissed if they show Goku and Vegeta lose to their U6 saiyan counterparts past the Saiyan levels (SSB should trash all except Jiren, Hit, Toppo and maybe Kale).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
July 16 2017 05:48 GMT
#1883
On July 16 2017 14:35 BigFan wrote:
Why are you guys using spoilers? lol. If it's manga spoilers, sure but this is the anime discussion thread and it should be well known by this point that Saturday posts are likely containing the latest updates


Having said that, this episode was pretty good overall. Ending was pretty funny lol. I'm so excited for next week but I'm gonna be pissed if they show Goku and Vegeta lose to their U6 saiyan counterparts past the Saiyan levels (SSB should trash all except Jiren, Hit, Toppo and maybe Kale).

I think goku in the trailer is saying that theyre strong for ssj2 but will be no match for ssjblue until fem broly transforms.
I know broly isnt cannon but ssj2 did beat him...kinda but then ssjred should trash him as well as blue...i have feeling thats not going to be the case. Also one thing to mention is vegeta in his very first ssj form was much much weaker than after a year of training (hyperbolic in andriod saga) these u6 sayians havnt trained that long since getting ssj so tbh i expect them to show some raw power but ultimately get outclassed by goku and vegetas ssj form where broly will transform and force blue but still lose convincingly
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 16 2017 05:56 GMT
#1884
On July 16 2017 14:48 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 14:35 BigFan wrote:
Why are you guys using spoilers? lol. If it's manga spoilers, sure but this is the anime discussion thread and it should be well known by this point that Saturday posts are likely containing the latest updates


Having said that, this episode was pretty good overall. Ending was pretty funny lol. I'm so excited for next week but I'm gonna be pissed if they show Goku and Vegeta lose to their U6 saiyan counterparts past the Saiyan levels (SSB should trash all except Jiren, Hit, Toppo and maybe Kale).

I think goku in the trailer is saying that theyre strong for ssj2 but will be no match for ssjblue until fem broly transforms.
I know broly isnt cannon but ssj2 did beat him...kinda but then ssjred should trash him as well as blue...i have feeling thats not going to be the case. Also one thing to mention is vegeta in his very first ssj form was much much weaker than after a year of training (hyperbolic in andriod saga) these u6 sayians havnt trained that long since getting ssj so tbh i expect them to show some raw power but ultimately get outclassed by goku and vegetas ssj form where broly will transform and force blue but still lose convincingly

Honestly it's a bit bs. Ya, I mean Cabba's ssj stronger than vegeta's? Give me a break. Vegeta spent his life in the training chamber at his house lol. His base should be much stronger than Cabba. I'm going off the preview here. I just think it's silly that recently transformed Saiyans will give U7 Saiyans a hard try when they transform to the same level.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 16 2017 06:45 GMT
#1885
By the time Vegeta fought Cabba he had fought two battles previously. His only loss was to Hit. Vegeta was tired from the Metalman Magetta. So he took it easy on Cabba and showed SSJB in order to show Cabba he had a long way to go.

Kale is a wild card for sure, but I think Gohan takes care of her in Mystic form. In the end U6 will give us a good couple of episodes, but U7 prevails.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2017 08:03 GMT
#1886
On July 16 2017 14:56 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 14:48 Shock710 wrote:
On July 16 2017 14:35 BigFan wrote:
Why are you guys using spoilers? lol. If it's manga spoilers, sure but this is the anime discussion thread and it should be well known by this point that Saturday posts are likely containing the latest updates


Having said that, this episode was pretty good overall. Ending was pretty funny lol. I'm so excited for next week but I'm gonna be pissed if they show Goku and Vegeta lose to their U6 saiyan counterparts past the Saiyan levels (SSB should trash all except Jiren, Hit, Toppo and maybe Kale).

I think goku in the trailer is saying that theyre strong for ssj2 but will be no match for ssjblue until fem broly transforms.
I know broly isnt cannon but ssj2 did beat him...kinda but then ssjred should trash him as well as blue...i have feeling thats not going to be the case. Also one thing to mention is vegeta in his very first ssj form was much much weaker than after a year of training (hyperbolic in andriod saga) these u6 sayians havnt trained that long since getting ssj so tbh i expect them to show some raw power but ultimately get outclassed by goku and vegetas ssj form where broly will transform and force blue but still lose convincingly

Honestly it's a bit bs. Ya, I mean Cabba's ssj stronger than vegeta's? Give me a break. Vegeta spent his life in the training chamber at his house lol. His base should be much stronger than Cabba. I'm going off the preview here. I just think it's silly that recently transformed Saiyans will give U7 Saiyans a hard try when they transform to the same level.


The U6 sayians being strong isn't that bad imo. We have no idea really how strong their base forms are. They basically just lives without ssj transformation so they all basically developed without that transformation in mind. There isn't any reason why they can't be stronger, just like hit and the other strong guys...they just are and now have access to the ssj multiplier. So I guess what I am saying is just because we saw the development of our sayians doesn't mean they didn't develop, U7 are just farther along when it comes to ssj.

Now if they are stronger then ssb then ill call bs but matching them when they go the same level of ssj? Not far fetched. You can argue the ease that they were able to go ssj was far too fast, but chaulk that up to time constraints.
Never Knows Best.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 16 2017 11:43 GMT
#1887
There is no logic in power level in DBS .. a saiyan who discovered SSJ a week ago could fight toe to toe with a SSJB for all we know
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 16 2017 21:50 GMT
#1888
^ For some reason, I know that's just what's going to happen.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 16 2017 22:11 GMT
#1889
On July 17 2017 06:50 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
^ For some reason, I know that's just what's going to happen.

Well yea thats just how DB works, plus they need to create some tension
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 16 2017 22:15 GMT
#1890
I know and I am sad. A U6 SSJ should be smoked by SSJB or Mystic Gohan. Hell, even Piccolo should be able to handle them. 18 and 17 should just outright beat them as well, but we know logic won't happen in this show.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2017 23:22 GMT
#1891
There really isnt any justification to say piccolo 17 and 18 should auto be stronger then U6 Sayians.
Never Knows Best.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 16 2017 23:41 GMT
#1892
There's no justification for them feeling a tingle in their back and auto SSJing either. But they did.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2017 23:46 GMT
#1893
Yea them doing ssj and ssj2 easy is the messed up part but their strength really should be up there just below Blue and the other super top tiers so ita not really bs, the speed they are going through transformations is, but the power isn't.
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 16 2017 23:47 GMT
#1894
They learned to increase their power greatly without transforming. Going SSJ is like the equivalent of taking off the turtle shell for them.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 16 2017 23:53 GMT
#1895
I don't think, in the what, 6 months it's been since they last fought and the recruiting effort of Cabba, they should be just below SSJB. I'll give them just below SSJ3 or stronger than, but not Blue. Not giving them that one.

I get they probably have a higher propensity than U7 Saiyans at transforming. And I can see them getting stronger, faster. But not in the short amount of time we've been given.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 17 2017 01:18 GMT
#1896
The point is they already started out strong. Their base forms appear to be pretty high and the only thing they lack is the upper tiers of SSJ3 and the power + control of Blue.
Never Knows Best.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
July 17 2017 01:27 GMT
#1897
I think it was episode 34 where they fight. Go back and see what Vegeta says.

I've given them that. But I don't see how they should be below SSJB like you said. I'd give them SSJ3, but that's all I'm giving. Kale is the only one I can see besting SSJ3 since she's legendary. The other two, SSJ2 is all I'm willing to give them.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 17 2017 01:31 GMT
#1898
I never said they were above blue? I said they were the step down from Blue and SSj3. SSJ2 is super fucking strong power up to people ya know and they have pretty good base forms already.
Never Knows Best.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 01:35:47
July 17 2017 01:33 GMT
#1899
Just once. I wanna see Gogeta in this arc. Just once.

EDIT: You never said they were above blue, you said they were a step down from blue. There's a massive difference between SSJ2 and SSJB. They should be nowhere near that. That's what I'm saying. I'll give them SSJ2 top tier. But that's all I'm willing to give until we get more. We need the dub to come out and add filler showing progression of those saiyans or something.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 17 2017 01:34 GMT
#1900
I'll give them Angry Vegeta SSJ2. Which is just about enough to force SSB and force some real power out of it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 212 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 71
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1011
Rain 996
Artosis 723
Shuttle 487
ggaemo 24
Dota 2
monkeys_forever405
NeuroSwarm168
League of Legends
Doublelift6534
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor275
Other Games
summit1g10186
Liquid`RaSZi2352
JimRising 579
Livibee96
Maynarde70
Mew2King54
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 107
• mYiSmile125
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22199
Other Games
• Scarra1054
• imaqtpie524
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6m
CranKy Ducklings7
Afreeca Starleague
10h 6m
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
11h 6m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 6m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Light vs EffOrt
OSC
1d 12h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
GSL
6 days
Yamato Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.