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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 16 2017 05:00 GMT
#1881
+ Show Spoiler +
Think of the time that has passed in the tournament as 1 Namek.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 16 2017 05:35 GMT
#1882
Why are you guys using spoilers? lol. If it's manga spoilers, sure but this is the anime discussion thread and it should be well known by this point that Saturday posts are likely containing the latest updates


Having said that, this episode was pretty good overall. Ending was pretty funny lol. I'm so excited for next week but I'm gonna be pissed if they show Goku and Vegeta lose to their U6 saiyan counterparts past the Saiyan levels (SSB should trash all except Jiren, Hit, Toppo and maybe Kale).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
July 16 2017 05:48 GMT
#1883
On July 16 2017 14:35 BigFan wrote:
Why are you guys using spoilers? lol. If it's manga spoilers, sure but this is the anime discussion thread and it should be well known by this point that Saturday posts are likely containing the latest updates


Having said that, this episode was pretty good overall. Ending was pretty funny lol. I'm so excited for next week but I'm gonna be pissed if they show Goku and Vegeta lose to their U6 saiyan counterparts past the Saiyan levels (SSB should trash all except Jiren, Hit, Toppo and maybe Kale).

I think goku in the trailer is saying that theyre strong for ssj2 but will be no match for ssjblue until fem broly transforms.
I know broly isnt cannon but ssj2 did beat him...kinda but then ssjred should trash him as well as blue...i have feeling thats not going to be the case. Also one thing to mention is vegeta in his very first ssj form was much much weaker than after a year of training (hyperbolic in andriod saga) these u6 sayians havnt trained that long since getting ssj so tbh i expect them to show some raw power but ultimately get outclassed by goku and vegetas ssj form where broly will transform and force blue but still lose convincingly
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 16 2017 05:56 GMT
#1884
On July 16 2017 14:48 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 14:35 BigFan wrote:
Why are you guys using spoilers? lol. If it's manga spoilers, sure but this is the anime discussion thread and it should be well known by this point that Saturday posts are likely containing the latest updates


Having said that, this episode was pretty good overall. Ending was pretty funny lol. I'm so excited for next week but I'm gonna be pissed if they show Goku and Vegeta lose to their U6 saiyan counterparts past the Saiyan levels (SSB should trash all except Jiren, Hit, Toppo and maybe Kale).

I think goku in the trailer is saying that theyre strong for ssj2 but will be no match for ssjblue until fem broly transforms.
I know broly isnt cannon but ssj2 did beat him...kinda but then ssjred should trash him as well as blue...i have feeling thats not going to be the case. Also one thing to mention is vegeta in his very first ssj form was much much weaker than after a year of training (hyperbolic in andriod saga) these u6 sayians havnt trained that long since getting ssj so tbh i expect them to show some raw power but ultimately get outclassed by goku and vegetas ssj form where broly will transform and force blue but still lose convincingly

Honestly it's a bit bs. Ya, I mean Cabba's ssj stronger than vegeta's? Give me a break. Vegeta spent his life in the training chamber at his house lol. His base should be much stronger than Cabba. I'm going off the preview here. I just think it's silly that recently transformed Saiyans will give U7 Saiyans a hard try when they transform to the same level.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9054 Posts
July 16 2017 06:45 GMT
#1885
By the time Vegeta fought Cabba he had fought two battles previously. His only loss was to Hit. Vegeta was tired from the Metalman Magetta. So he took it easy on Cabba and showed SSJB in order to show Cabba he had a long way to go.

Kale is a wild card for sure, but I think Gohan takes care of her in Mystic form. In the end U6 will give us a good couple of episodes, but U7 prevails.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2017 08:03 GMT
#1886
On July 16 2017 14:56 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 14:48 Shock710 wrote:
On July 16 2017 14:35 BigFan wrote:
Why are you guys using spoilers? lol. If it's manga spoilers, sure but this is the anime discussion thread and it should be well known by this point that Saturday posts are likely containing the latest updates


Having said that, this episode was pretty good overall. Ending was pretty funny lol. I'm so excited for next week but I'm gonna be pissed if they show Goku and Vegeta lose to their U6 saiyan counterparts past the Saiyan levels (SSB should trash all except Jiren, Hit, Toppo and maybe Kale).

I think goku in the trailer is saying that theyre strong for ssj2 but will be no match for ssjblue until fem broly transforms.
I know broly isnt cannon but ssj2 did beat him...kinda but then ssjred should trash him as well as blue...i have feeling thats not going to be the case. Also one thing to mention is vegeta in his very first ssj form was much much weaker than after a year of training (hyperbolic in andriod saga) these u6 sayians havnt trained that long since getting ssj so tbh i expect them to show some raw power but ultimately get outclassed by goku and vegetas ssj form where broly will transform and force blue but still lose convincingly

Honestly it's a bit bs. Ya, I mean Cabba's ssj stronger than vegeta's? Give me a break. Vegeta spent his life in the training chamber at his house lol. His base should be much stronger than Cabba. I'm going off the preview here. I just think it's silly that recently transformed Saiyans will give U7 Saiyans a hard try when they transform to the same level.


The U6 sayians being strong isn't that bad imo. We have no idea really how strong their base forms are. They basically just lives without ssj transformation so they all basically developed without that transformation in mind. There isn't any reason why they can't be stronger, just like hit and the other strong guys...they just are and now have access to the ssj multiplier. So I guess what I am saying is just because we saw the development of our sayians doesn't mean they didn't develop, U7 are just farther along when it comes to ssj.

Now if they are stronger then ssb then ill call bs but matching them when they go the same level of ssj? Not far fetched. You can argue the ease that they were able to go ssj was far too fast, but chaulk that up to time constraints.
Never Knows Best.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 16 2017 11:43 GMT
#1887
There is no logic in power level in DBS .. a saiyan who discovered SSJ a week ago could fight toe to toe with a SSJB for all we know
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9054 Posts
July 16 2017 21:50 GMT
#1888
^ For some reason, I know that's just what's going to happen.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
July 16 2017 22:11 GMT
#1889
On July 17 2017 06:50 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
^ For some reason, I know that's just what's going to happen.

Well yea thats just how DB works, plus they need to create some tension
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9054 Posts
July 16 2017 22:15 GMT
#1890
I know and I am sad. A U6 SSJ should be smoked by SSJB or Mystic Gohan. Hell, even Piccolo should be able to handle them. 18 and 17 should just outright beat them as well, but we know logic won't happen in this show.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2017 23:22 GMT
#1891
There really isnt any justification to say piccolo 17 and 18 should auto be stronger then U6 Sayians.
Never Knows Best.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9054 Posts
July 16 2017 23:41 GMT
#1892
There's no justification for them feeling a tingle in their back and auto SSJing either. But they did.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2017 23:46 GMT
#1893
Yea them doing ssj and ssj2 easy is the messed up part but their strength really should be up there just below Blue and the other super top tiers so ita not really bs, the speed they are going through transformations is, but the power isn't.
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 16 2017 23:47 GMT
#1894
They learned to increase their power greatly without transforming. Going SSJ is like the equivalent of taking off the turtle shell for them.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9054 Posts
July 16 2017 23:53 GMT
#1895
I don't think, in the what, 6 months it's been since they last fought and the recruiting effort of Cabba, they should be just below SSJB. I'll give them just below SSJ3 or stronger than, but not Blue. Not giving them that one.

I get they probably have a higher propensity than U7 Saiyans at transforming. And I can see them getting stronger, faster. But not in the short amount of time we've been given.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 17 2017 01:18 GMT
#1896
The point is they already started out strong. Their base forms appear to be pretty high and the only thing they lack is the upper tiers of SSJ3 and the power + control of Blue.
Never Knows Best.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9054 Posts
July 17 2017 01:27 GMT
#1897
I think it was episode 34 where they fight. Go back and see what Vegeta says.

I've given them that. But I don't see how they should be below SSJB like you said. I'd give them SSJ3, but that's all I'm giving. Kale is the only one I can see besting SSJ3 since she's legendary. The other two, SSJ2 is all I'm willing to give them.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 17 2017 01:31 GMT
#1898
I never said they were above blue? I said they were the step down from Blue and SSj3. SSJ2 is super fucking strong power up to people ya know and they have pretty good base forms already.
Never Knows Best.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9054 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 01:35:47
July 17 2017 01:33 GMT
#1899
Just once. I wanna see Gogeta in this arc. Just once.

EDIT: You never said they were above blue, you said they were a step down from blue. There's a massive difference between SSJ2 and SSJB. They should be nowhere near that. That's what I'm saying. I'll give them SSJ2 top tier. But that's all I'm willing to give until we get more. We need the dub to come out and add filler showing progression of those saiyans or something.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 17 2017 01:34 GMT
#1900
I'll give them Angry Vegeta SSJ2. Which is just about enough to force SSB and force some real power out of it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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