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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
August 04 2017 20:51 GMT
#2041
Mohdoo's bullshit theory time: Vegeta goes nuts on these sailor moon shmucks, starts to get cocky, then one of them pulls some kinda "charming" spell on him or something to that degree to where he becomes somewhat incapacitated. They start laying into him and no one is able to save him because everyone is able to be charmed or somehow controlled by this cutesy power stuff.

In walks big fuckin dog F R I E Z A. This crazy SOB just spent years being tortured by cutesy shit in hell and is totally immune at this point. He is not only immune, but he is able to achieve extreme focus and to do piccolo'esque training while IN hell. So these sailor scouts get positively crushed by frieza.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 04 2017 21:06 GMT
#2042
On August 05 2017 05:51 Mohdoo wrote:
Mohdoo's bullshit theory time: Vegeta goes nuts on these sailor moon shmucks, starts to get cocky, then one of them pulls some kinda "charming" spell on him or something to that degree to where he becomes somewhat incapacitated. They start laying into him and no one is able to save him because everyone is able to be charmed or somehow controlled by this cutesy power stuff.

In walks big fuckin dog F R I E Z A. This crazy SOB just spent years being tortured by cutesy shit in hell and is totally immune at this point. He is not only immune, but he is able to achieve extreme focus and to do piccolo'esque training while IN hell. So these sailor scouts get positively crushed by frieza.

Frieza save Vegeta? lol. I mean, sure, he may lend a hand because he's trying to keep up a certain persona atm but that'll be interesting to see XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9025 Posts
August 04 2017 21:47 GMT
#2043
On August 05 2017 05:51 Mohdoo wrote:
Mohdoo's bullshit theory time: Vegeta goes nuts on these sailor moon shmucks, starts to get cocky, then one of them pulls some kinda "charming" spell on him or something to that degree to where he becomes somewhat incapacitated. They start laying into him and no one is able to save him because everyone is able to be charmed or somehow controlled by this cutesy power stuff.

In walks big fuckin dog F R I E Z A. This crazy SOB just spent years being tortured by cutesy shit in hell and is totally immune at this point. He is not only immune, but he is able to achieve extreme focus and to do piccolo'esque training while IN hell. So these sailor scouts get positively crushed by frieza.

Really shitty theory, but I like the optimism. I highly doubt Vegeta-Sama gets distracted by the cardcaptor sakura rip-offs. He just admitted that his daughter was cute. Baby steps man.

I do think that Freeza will rekt some bitches though. This will be his opportunity to exact revenge on being in Hell all those years.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
August 05 2017 01:44 GMT
#2044
I don't mean Frieza "saving" vegeta per se, but I do see Frieza mercilessly seeking out and destroying people who use cutesy powers.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9025 Posts
August 05 2017 02:11 GMT
#2045
I'll have to go back and watch the preview for tomorrow, but I understand what you mean.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
August 05 2017 21:48 GMT
#2046
Love the idea of Freeza saving Vegeta, as a 1000 kicks in the dick move to Vegetas Saiyan Pride.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
August 06 2017 00:29 GMT
#2047
I just see these cutesy characters, who we know will fight Vegeta, as a perfect way for frieza to strike back at cutesy stuff in a violent way after it tortured him for so long.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
August 06 2017 02:42 GMT
#2048
17 is a beast
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 06 2017 02:52 GMT
#2049
Almost felt like a filler episode with meh enemies and minimal big players showing up. Watching 17 fight in the latter half was decent tho.
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 06 2017 03:01 GMT
#2050
Kind of filler, still alright. Noticed U6 seems to have two Namekians. Preview suggests this part of the fight is gonna get sidelined though.

U10 is probably going to disappear next episode.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-06 03:35:05
August 06 2017 03:33 GMT
#2051
I'm starting to get annoyed with this tournament. First, powerlevels are a joke. People either stomp enemies effortesly, like 17 did, and that red girl to the guy with the rose, or people that shouldn't be that strong give a hard time to goku/vegeta, ie: goku's atack not doing anything to kale. There haven't been a single evenly matched fight in this tournament.

Goku makes no sense at all. He obviously wanted to let them transform so he could fight harder oponnents, but then getting hit by that girl atack...he obivously can beat her with one hand so why does he do that? Furthermore, when he has actually gotten serious not even with the power of a GOD can he beat a super saiyan. A leyendary one, yes, but ultimetely a super saijan 1.

No one fights like the unviverses are at stake. Letting them do their ritual what the fuck. The lives of every single thing you know are at stake and you just joke around? Not even Vegeta, Gohan and Piccolo which are the ones that normally take things seriously are giving their absolute best, with two of them doing nothing and one of them holding back. Jiren and 17 are the only ones taking this seriously.

Finally, the fighters are just terrible. There are 3 girls, with the power of love that are the most lame characters with the lames skills I've seen. Oh she hits fast, be impressed! Oh she uses the broken stage to jump from one place to another!!..just like every character has done at least once. I don't know, but I see this girl atacking with hearts and evading hits by the sheer power of ugliness alone and I can't help but feel that's super lame compared to any other arc ever in Dragon Ball where the fighters were actually interesting and you could feel the lives of people were really at stake.

Also what happens when the timmer runs out? The universe with more fighters alive wins?
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 06 2017 04:05 GMT
#2052
This ep was boring as hell, doing the transformation ritual twice come on please havnt we had enough fillers leading up to this arc.

The second half didnt even pick up after the transformations they seem so weak i cant believe they even made it past minute 1.

I seriously jyst wish vegeta and goku would just power up and taken them out. This doesnt have a feel of a battle royale no one is out to get everyone else and the team work is super lackuster. Every team work plan has failed miserably in the face of just stronger opponents.

The fact that goku and vegeta arent using blue means theres no tension at all.

If they were going this way it would gave been way more exciting to do universe vs universe and they field players like a tennis match 2v2, 2v2, 1v1, 1v1 and ace match 1v1
And then have it jiren and goku meet in the finals.

I give no shits about the other characters because i dont know what powers fighting style or back story of why they are here.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 06 2017 04:08 GMT
#2053
On August 06 2017 12:33 [Phantom] wrote:
I'm starting to get annoyed with this tournament. First, powerlevels are a joke. People either stomp enemies effortesly, like 17 did, and that red girl to the guy with the rose, or people that shouldn't be that strong give a hard time to goku/vegeta, ie: goku's atack not doing anything to kale. There haven't been a single evenly matched fight in this tournament.

Goku makes no sense at all. He obviously wanted to let them transform so he could fight harder oponnents, but then getting hit by that girl atack...he obivously can beat her with one hand so why does he do that? Furthermore, when he has actually gotten serious not even with the power of a GOD can he beat a super saiyan. A leyendary one, yes, but ultimetely a super saijan 1.

No one fights like the unviverses are at stake. Letting them do their ritual what the fuck. The lives of every single thing you know are at stake and you just joke around? Not even Vegeta, Gohan and Piccolo which are the ones that normally take things seriously are giving their absolute best, with two of them doing nothing and one of them holding back. Jiren and 17 are the only ones taking this seriously.

Finally, the fighters are just terrible. There are 3 girls, with the power of love that are the most lame characters with the lames skills I've seen. Oh she hits fast, be impressed! Oh she uses the broken stage to jump from one place to another!!..just like every character has done at least once. I don't know, but I see this girl atacking with hearts and evading hits by the sheer power of ugliness alone and I can't help but feel that's super lame compared to any other arc ever in Dragon Ball where the fighters were actually interesting and you could feel the lives of people were really at stake.

Also what happens when the timmer runs out? The universe with more fighters alive wins?


That is correct, universe with most fighters alive win if there are still universes there. I would not be surprised at all if there were just 2 characters (Goku/Jiren) who survived and have to do a "sudden death" type of fight to determine the winner of the tournament.
When I think of something else, something will go here
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6263 Posts
August 06 2017 08:34 GMT
#2054
It's getting stupid how OP universe 7 is. Before the tournament we hear how they're one of the weakest but now they're by far the strongest and beat nearly everyone easy. I get that there need to be some filler characters who get beaten easily but a little challenge for U7 would be great.
MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
August 06 2017 10:04 GMT
#2055
On August 06 2017 12:33 [Phantom] wrote:
I'm starting to get annoyed with this tournament. First, powerlevels are a joke. People either stomp enemies effortesly, like 17 did, and that red girl to the guy with the rose, or people that shouldn't be that strong give a hard time to goku/vegeta, ie: goku's atack not doing anything to kale. There haven't been a single evenly matched fight in this tournament.

Goku makes no sense at all. He obviously wanted to let them transform so he could fight harder oponnents, but then getting hit by that girl atack...he obivously can beat her with one hand so why does he do that? Furthermore, when he has actually gotten serious not even with the power of a GOD can he beat a super saiyan. A leyendary one, yes, but ultimetely a super saijan 1.

No one fights like the unviverses are at stake. Letting them do their ritual what the fuck. The lives of every single thing you know are at stake and you just joke around? Not even Vegeta, Gohan and Piccolo which are the ones that normally take things seriously are giving their absolute best, with two of them doing nothing and one of them holding back. Jiren and 17 are the only ones taking this seriously.

Finally, the fighters are just terrible. There are 3 girls, with the power of love that are the most lame characters with the lames skills I've seen. Oh she hits fast, be impressed! Oh she uses the broken stage to jump from one place to another!!..just like every character has done at least once. I don't know, but I see this girl atacking with hearts and evading hits by the sheer power of ugliness alone and I can't help but feel that's super lame compared to any other arc ever in Dragon Ball where the fighters were actually interesting and you could feel the lives of people were really at stake.

Also what happens when the timmer runs out? The universe with more fighters alive wins?


Well said!
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 06 2017 12:01 GMT
#2056
On August 06 2017 17:34 RvB wrote:
It's getting stupid how OP universe 7 is. Before the tournament we hear how they're one of the weakest but now they're by far the strongest and beat nearly everyone easy. I get that there need to be some filler characters who get beaten easily but a little challenge for U7 would be great.



I think a lot of it about U7 being one of the weakest is deceiving. If you think about it, U7 is weak because its power level on average is low. But we have seen U7 take out strong fighters all over the place, all of Freiza's minions, Cell, and that is also on top of what Freiza did destroying any world that might become strong enough to threaten him in the past. So the actual fighters of U7 are likely pretty strong compared to the average of other Universes.

I do think it's weird though that many of the universes have basically no strong fighters that we previously haven't heard about. Jiren, Toppo, Hit, etc we have heard about before this fight. But all the other universes seem so weak with their fighters because we haven't heard about them at all. Just feels pointless that these type of fighters are here.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
August 06 2017 13:18 GMT
#2057
The hype for Super is gone now, all this tournament arc is a big filler and very boring, it is not even interesting with the fights, watching the chapter I just forwarded some minutes but it wasnt enough.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
August 06 2017 15:56 GMT
#2058
The tournament feel more like early DB to me, with a lot more gag and flashy yet mostly pointless fight before the big final everyone is expecting, but with a lot more fan service. It dosen't seem to have amy stake at all.
It look like they are just stuck with the whole destroying universe thing, and they don't know want to go super serious so soon.
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AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
August 06 2017 16:43 GMT
#2059
Power level being a joke is what I've always wanted because PL was everything wrong with DBZ.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-06 18:15:45
August 06 2017 18:13 GMT
#2060
Just realized something.

U10 is slated to be wiped out next time around, it looks like. They're near death and Freeza slaughtered their best fighters already. But if you remember, Gowasu went with Zamasu into the future before - does that mean that Zeno can change the timeline or that they will be revived if they go bye-bye?

Probably won't ever be explored, but something I thought worth mentioning.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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