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Velr
Switzerland10811 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 30 2014 07:12 HackBenjamin wrote: Should Windu have tried to arrest Palpatine, or was he doing the right thing by trying to strike him down? He was apparently "too dangerous to be left alive" even though he easily beat him. dont understand | ||
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
On April 30 2014 07:47 arb wrote: He was apparently "too dangerous to be left alive" even though he easily beat him. dont understand Palpatine didn't want to go all out vs Windu. He needed anakin to see him almost dead so that he could turn him to the dark side. He knew that without saying "OMG im going to die and if you don't help me I cant teach you the powers to stop padme from dying" that anakin would take forever to turn to the dark side. I'm gonna assume that he foresaw that anakin would come to see the fight and therefore allowed himself to get defeated. Also don't forget that Windu was very powerful he was the head of the jedi council the first movie so him defeating the emperor is not that farfetch. Is not like he put him down in one attack like Dooku did with anakin and obi wan in the second movie. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On April 30 2014 08:03 zeratul_jf wrote: Palpatine didn't want to go all out vs Windu. He needed anakin to see him almost dead so that he could turn him to the dark side. He knew that without saying "OMG im going to die and if you don't help me I cant teach you the powers to stop padme from dying" that anakin would take forever to turn to the dark side. I'm gonna assume that he foresaw that anakin would come to see the fight and therefore allowed himself to get defeated. Also don't forget that Windu was very powerful he was the head of the jedi council the first movie so him defeating the emperor is not that farfetch. Is not like he put him down in one attack like Dooku did with anakin and obi wan in the second movie. Not to mention the crazy amount of political power he wielded. Palatine wasn't necessarily the strongest Sith in terms of fighting ability, but he was definitely adept in the mystical side of the force and could easily get out of a trial. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Serejai
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Kojak21
Canada1104 Posts
On April 30 2014 11:00 Serejai wrote: No Jar Jar? Bummer. That guy was the only redeeming quality to the last three movies. ya i loved jar jar!!! he was so funny! | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On April 30 2014 07:47 arb wrote: He was apparently "too dangerous to be left alive" even though he easily beat him. dont understand I think the idea was if they put him on trial, he could probably weasel his way out of it because of how influential he was. Whereas if they put him down then and there, they at least rid the galaxy of a huge threat, regardless of whatever the general public ends up thinking of the jedis. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17450 Posts
On April 30 2014 07:12 HackBenjamin wrote: Should Windu have tried to arrest Palpatine, or was he doing the right thing by trying to strike him down? It's not like Jedi don't kill anyone. And Windu was definitely powerful enough to take on Palpatine, after all he was on the Jedi Council. Sure, Yoda might be the oldest and wisest, but when it comes to raw power I think that Windu was on the similar level if not stronger. If we take into account other fiction besides movies, you can see he's a real BAMF (says so right there on his wallet) since he crushed Grievous in an instant, while Obi and Anakin couldn't really handle him. He also single-handedly destroyed one of this big sphere-like flying ships of the bug-creatures using force (which is way more than Yoda lifting a big rock or X-wing from the swamp). | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On April 30 2014 08:03 zeratul_jf wrote: Palpatine didn't want to go all out vs Windu. He needed anakin to see him almost dead so that he could turn him to the dark side. He knew that without saying "OMG im going to die and if you don't help me I cant teach you the powers to stop padme from dying" that anakin would take forever to turn to the dark side. I'm gonna assume that he foresaw that anakin would come to see the fight and therefore allowed himself to get defeated. Also don't forget that Windu was very powerful he was the head of the jedi council the first movie so him defeating the emperor is not that farfetch. Is not like he put him down in one attack like Dooku did with anakin and obi wan in the second movie. Actually, based on the script, book, and Lucas the matter of "did Palpatine let mace win?" is up for debate. What is definitely known though is that mace failed to read anakin's shatterpoint but he saw the Chancellor trusted Anakin too much. Windu was one of the best duelists, such that supposedly only Yoda and Dooku could fight evenly. Should be noted that Windu's fighting style of Vaapad was more effective against the dark side than other styles. When Yoda fought Palpatine, book makes it clear that Yoda was outclassed from the very start. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On April 30 2014 14:20 Manit0u wrote: It's not like Jedi don't kill anyone. And Windu was definitely powerful enough to take on Palpatine, after all he was on the Jedi Council. Sure, Yoda might be the oldest and wisest, but when it comes to raw power I think that Windu was on the similar level if not stronger. If we take into account other fiction besides movies, you can see he's a real BAMF (says so right there on his wallet) since he crushed Grievous in an instant, while Obi and Anakin couldn't really handle him. He also single-handedly destroyed one of this big sphere-like flying ships of the bug-creatures using force (which is way more than Yoda lifting a big rock or X-wing from the swamp). Iirc Yoda brought down a cruiser from orbit using the force in clone wars attack on Coruscant. Might just be my bad memory though. | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
"My love now i can save you and rule the universe with you" "That cool darling how did you do that?" "By killing little kids and teaming up with the dude who tried to kill you across 3 movies!" "Dafuq?" I mean yea he was tricked and dark side and stuff but you could figure that out with thinking for a minute. | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3241 Posts
On April 30 2014 07:12 HackBenjamin wrote: Should Windu have tried to arrest Palpatine, or was he doing the right thing by trying to strike him down? He was going to strike him down with great vengeance and furious anger. The writing's just there for this :D | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On April 30 2014 15:54 -Archangel- wrote: Why is this in general forum? You right shouldn´t it be in Media & Entertainment? On April 30 2014 16:05 NukeD wrote: Why are the terrible prequels discussed as if they are something relevant? Because there are signs that the "new" movies go in the same direction. And besides a irrelevant cast there is nothing else to talk about. | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3241 Posts
On April 30 2014 16:15 Micro_Jackson wrote: You right shouldn´t it be in Media & Entertainment? Because there are signs that the "new" movies go in the same direction. And besides a irrelevant cast there is nothing else to talk about. This thread wasn't active when the change was made so it was just missed by the mods. Doesn't help that it isn't marked with the usual [movie] tag. Soon they will notice and move it | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 30 2014 16:15 Micro_Jackson wrote: Because there are signs that the "new" movies go in the same direction. And besides a irrelevant cast there is nothing else to talk about. Dear god, I really hope not. I recently watched Jedi Returns, even with Ewoks that movie is so much better than prequels. | ||
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