On September 13 2012 10:01 white_horse wrote: Oh please. NGE is one of those things where they put a bunch of "philosophical" and "meaningful" things to the point where they can't explain what its supposed to mean. What is the meaning of all those biblical and symbolic imagery? Tell me. The animation is just trying to act bigger than it really is, and that is what is annoying about shows like these.
The first two-thirds of the story is actually really great. Interesting characters, storyline, artwork and the creativity is great. And the female characters are hot. But things start to become really really weird after that and it becomes very distasteful to watch. It's not an adult story, but theres too much violence and sex, and shinji, the emo pussy main character, is so un-main character-like throughout the whole story, its frustrating.
Also, the characters' names are taken from Japanese WWII era naval ships, which I find very reprehensible because of the ideological extremism and bloodshed that the 1940's japan represents. It's like naming the characters of a TV show after the names of al-qaeda leaders or lexicon.
On September 13 2012 10:01 white_horse wrote: Also, the characters' names are taken from Japanese WWII era naval ships, which I find very reprehensible because of the ideological extremism and bloodshed that the 1940's japan represents. It's like naming the characters of a TV show after the names of al-qaeda leaders or lexicon.
That's one of the interpretations I've seen and thought about, that it's an allegory for elements of the WWII Pacific War and the Japanese public.
The ending makes some sense that way; they're the engine of their own destruction, with hints of the future Reconstruction era.
I like the whole Anno depression idea better, though.
The only reason the last 2 episodes are the way they are is because they ran out of money. Not because they wanted to be "deep" anything, but they couldn't afford to animate what was in End of Evangelion for the TV show, so they were just like "fuck it, congratulations"
If people could please PM me errors in the OP and suggestions how to make sentences sound less awkward that would save me time.
Also feel free to PM me additions to the OP or things I should address. I also plan on having my second "oh shit" post be the Spoiler post to help people understand the show, especially from episode 19 onwards.
The final was terrifucking bad. When I saw it when I was a kid, first they showed a series final without 2 special episodes or movies, etc, so you are left in total confusion because you realize something is missing and it's so unclear what happened in between.
Then when I got to see the special episodes: They were terrifucking bad, it wasn't even funny. I admit the series had its good moments, but overall it has no replay value what so ever, unless you are nostalgic. The whole theme about the pilots and their feelings its pretty cheap stuff to be honest, that can be found everywhere these days and it doesn't bring anything to the table, some other animes like Saint Seiya had better drama with regards to this, the good thing is the whole theme about the robots actually being giant humans or if you want to call it that, from a biological origin. That was pretty original but then they tied it to a bible plot, which was somewhat good in some episodes but totally awful in the last episodes, so confusing and complicated, and when you realize what is going on - at this point you probably finished your philosophy pHD - then you realize it was all just a pretty bad plot with not enough action for an anime about robots.
My two cents: don't watch this, there are better ways to waste your time. And no, understanding evangelion will not make you look smart, it only means you wasted a lot of time watching something rather confusing. Oh and Sinji or whatever was his name was a pretty weak character, Solid Snake would break his neck in a heart beat.
I have to admit, the episode about the giant black ball that eats the robot was pretty mysterious and good. But after that all went down the drain. That episode was cool, really, worth to watch.
On September 13 2012 10:01 white_horse wrote: Oh please. NGE is one of those things where they put a bunch of "philosophical" and "meaningful" things to the point where they can't explain what its supposed to mean. What is the meaning of all those biblical and symbolic imagery? Tell me. The animation is just trying to act bigger than it really is, and that is what is annoying about shows like these.
The first two-thirds of the story is actually really great. Interesting characters, storyline, artwork and the creativity is great. And the female characters are hot. But things start to become really really weird after that and it becomes very distasteful to watch. It's not an adult story, but theres too much violence and sex, and shinji, the emo pussy main character, is so un-main character-like throughout the whole story, its frustrating.
Also, the characters' names are taken from Japanese WWII era naval ships, which I find very reprehensible because of the ideological extremism and bloodshed that the 1940's japan represents. It's like naming the characters of a TV show after the names of al-qaeda leaders or lexicon.
On September 13 2012 10:01 white_horse wrote: Oh please. NGE is one of those things where they put a bunch of "philosophical" and "meaningful" things to the point where they can't explain what its supposed to mean. What is the meaning of all those biblical and symbolic imagery? Tell me. The animation is just trying to act bigger than it really is, and that is what is annoying about shows like these.
The first two-thirds of the story is actually really great. Interesting characters, storyline, artwork and the creativity is great. And the female characters are hot. But things start to become really really weird after that and it becomes very distasteful to watch. It's not an adult story, but theres too much violence and sex, and shinji, the emo pussy main character, is so un-main character-like throughout the whole story, its frustrating.
Also, the characters' names are taken from Japanese WWII era naval ships, which I find very reprehensible because of the ideological extremism and bloodshed that the 1940's japan represents. It's like naming the characters of a TV show after the names of al-qaeda leaders or lexicon.
What I don't understand is why this is getting its own thread when it's really, really not going to bring any bit of value. It's going to devolve into people arguing about its depth vs people laughing at those people vs people throwing oil onto the fire.
it's an amazing anime but a bit confusing at times because not everything is explained clearly. in short, it is more about how the main character started from a 'run away from all trouble', extreme low self esteem with little sense of belonging to anywhere and has a weak presence in life but in general, has a good heart, grew up into a man after dealt with father/son relationship problem, love interest, near death situations.
(final esp showed this very clearly, where he picked the choice)
it's an interesting choice because I might have chosen the other myself lol
On September 13 2012 10:39 ETisME wrote: it's an amazing anime but a bit confusing at times because not everything is explained clearly. in short, it is more about how the main character started from a 'run away from all trouble', extreme low self esteem with little sense of belonging to anywhere and has a weak presence in life but in general, has a good heart, grew up into a man after dealt with father/son relationship problem, love interest, near death situations.
(final esp showed this very clearly, where he picked the choice)
it's an interesting choice because I might have chosen the other myself lol
Are you sure you watched the same show that I did?
On September 13 2012 10:19 Nevermind86 wrote: The final was terrifucking bad. When I saw it when I was a kid, first they showed a series final without 2 special episodes or movies, etc, so you are left in total confusion because you realize something is missing and it's so unclear what happened in between.
Then when I got to see the special episodes: They were terrifucking bad, it wasn't even funny. I admit the series had its good moments, but overall it has no replay value what so ever, unless you are nostalgic. The whole theme about the pilots and their feelings its pretty cheap stuff to be honest, that can be found everywhere these days and it doesn't bring anything to the table, some other animes like Saint Seiya had better drama with regards to this, the good thing is the whole theme about the robots actually being giant humans or if you want to call it that, from a biological origin. That was pretty original but then they tied it to a bible plot, which was somewhat good in some episodes but totally awful in the last episodes, so confusing and complicated, and when you realize what is going on - at this point you probably finished your philosophy pHD - then you realize it was all just a pretty bad plot with not enough action for an anime about robots.
My two cents: don't watch this, there are better ways to waste your time. And no, understanding evangelion will not make you look smart, it only means you wasted a lot of time watching something rather confusing. Oh and Sinji or whatever was his name was a pretty weak character, Solid Snake would break his neck in a heart beat.
I have to admit, the episode about the giant black ball that eats the robot was pretty mysterious and good. But after that all went down the drain. That episode was cool, really, worth to watch.
So basically, your complaints are:
It's bad It's really bad Some stuff's good, but other than that it's awful It's confusing
On September 13 2012 10:01 white_horse wrote: Oh please. NGE is one of those things where they put a bunch of "philosophical" and "meaningful" things to the point where they can't explain what its supposed to mean. What is the meaning of all those biblical and symbolic imagery? Tell me. The animation is just trying to act bigger than it really is, and that is what is annoying about shows like these.
The first two-thirds of the story is actually really great. Interesting characters, storyline, artwork and the creativity is great. And the female characters are hot. But things start to become really really weird after that and it becomes very distasteful to watch. It's not an adult story, but theres too much violence and sex, and shinji, the emo pussy main character, is so un-main character-like throughout the whole story, its frustrating.
Also, the characters' names are taken from Japanese WWII era naval ships, which I find very reprehensible because of the ideological extremism and bloodshed that the 1940's japan represents. It's like naming the characters of a TV show after the names of al-qaeda leaders or lexicon.
What I don't understand is why this is getting its own thread when it's really, really not going to bring any bit of value. It's going to devolve into people arguing about its depth vs people laughing at those people vs people throwing oil onto the fire.
I'm guessing OP saw SAO funtimes with ADT, then recalled the great flamewar of Eva a few months back and wanted to recreate it. MVP Sentenal is already here but idk where the other side is.
I really like NGE, most animes today focus only on fanservice and have 0 substance in them, I know NGE has a lot of fanservice, but its just that, its not the central piece of the story. Im not saying that its "omg so deep", but when I watch it I find it interesting you know, I wanted to keep watching, thats my definition of entertainment.
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