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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 04:40:10
May 01 2013 04:37 GMT
#521
Welp guess a few more years(?) until I'm left wondering if I actually understood half the plot.

Can't wait to see how this end it this time.

edit:
On May 01 2013 09:23 a176 wrote:
Saw this on 4chan. Mind blown.

(click for larger)

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Wait, where are those scenes from? I don't remember the Rei one with mini-Rei's behind her, nor the Mari one where it looks like she's in the same room as Rei.

And I don't get it either lol
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0x5f3759df
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia17 Posts
May 01 2013 06:49 GMT
#522
I don't appreciate the introduction of worthless new characters. It was nice to see Toji's sister though.

The series which spanned 25 episodes was ample time, enough for us to create a bond to all the main characters and feel immersed in their interactions, Rei-Shinji, Asuka-Shinji, Misato-Shinji.. etc.. and it also contained a progression.
You started off thinking it was a MECHA-NEO-TOKYO-APOCALYPTIC-KAWAII anime, mindless and then you as you gradually start liking it and the characters, BAM, twists, turns and unexpected non-explicit sex scenes which I accidentally watched with my mother as a 14 year old. (Off topic)

But to create such a dialogue within a 1 and a half hr movie is impossible and you have to appreciate 3.0 for what it is, which is a retelling of the ending of Evangelion (how many have there been?). Don't think there can ever be a "perfect" ending and Hideaki or the fans of the show will NEVER be satisfied with an ending since it needs to be relevant to the state of mind you're in at the time and for us, it isn't back in the state we were at in late 1990's or early 2000s.

It's like Peter Jackson's version of the Hobbit, it seems like it's a bit out dated and he was trying to create another installment of LOTR, which he can't because it's past innovation and mystique.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 06:53:58
May 01 2013 06:53 GMT
#523
Dunno if this thread is bumped because of the new Movie trailer, but someone I mentioned it to mentioned it was similar to NGE (which I have no idea about).

RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 01 2013 08:05 GMT
#524
On May 01 2013 15:53 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Dunno if this thread is bumped because of the new Movie trailer, but someone I mentioned it to mentioned it was similar to NGE (which I have no idea about).

http://youtu.be/2vKz7WnU83E


This is probably the closest thing we'll get to an NGE big budget movie. Giant robots controlled by the pilots stimuli(?)/synchronization, pale skinny short haired and seemingly emotionless Japanese girl, apocalyptic abominations from beyond trying to end humanity, and just the massive SCALE of Pacific Rim. I would love to see a size comparison to the michael bay Transformers. plugsuits

2deep4u probably wouldn't translate well in live action, so pretty excited for this film.
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
May 01 2013 09:07 GMT
#525
3.33 just reminded that the reason I watch Eva is for all the weird ass stuff in it. It felt like it 3 hours long instead of 1.5 and I'm it did cause it was great.
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
May 01 2013 09:08 GMT
#526
Guys, it's really not that difficult to understand.

"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
May 01 2013 13:00 GMT
#527
On May 01 2013 15:53 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Dunno if this thread is bumped because of the new Movie trailer, but someone I mentioned it to mentioned it was similar to NGE (which I have no idea about).

http://youtu.be/2vKz7WnU83E


The first ads I saw for that in theaters made me immediately think of Eva. It looks too cheesy for me to watch, to be honest, but if it turns out to be worth the watch, I might wait till it arrives at RedBox.
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renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 13:20:42
May 01 2013 13:17 GMT
#528
On May 01 2013 13:37 sung_moon wrote:
Welp guess a few more years(?) until I'm left wondering if I actually understood half the plot.

Can't wait to see how this end it this time.

edit:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 09:23 a176 wrote:
Saw this on 4chan. Mind blown.

(click for larger)

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Wait, where are those scenes from? I don't remember the Rei one with mini-Rei's behind her, nor the Mari one where it looks like she's in the same room as Rei.

And I don't get it either lol



It's from 2.22 and its 3.0 preview.
Basically those are not random signs but part of a way to contain anything angel-related.

I don't know about you guys but with 3.33 I finally felt watching a real movie where I could related to the main character. Shinji doesn't have a clue about what's going on and don't understand anything that happened, just like the spectator.
From this point of view I felt the decision he took were justified.... + Show Spoiler +
He kinda lost control of his life after all.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
May 01 2013 13:24 GMT
#529
I think the 3.33 was missing something. There wasn't really any wow moment or any good fight. In the NGE or maybe some movies there was a scene where Asuka was fighting with severals EVAs?. One of the best fights in evangelion, but nothing here . Also I think Kaworu was introduced in original series better. And all story made more sense and progressed better.
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
May 01 2013 13:26 GMT
#530
On May 01 2013 18:08 twndomn wrote:
Guys, it's really not that difficult to understand.

http://youtu.be/lWGRc7l81RY


haha, great that I can read mandarin subtitles.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
May 01 2013 14:59 GMT
#531
On May 01 2013 22:24 Tuczniak wrote:
I think the 3.33 was missing something. There wasn't really any wow moment or any good fight. In the NGE or maybe some movies there was a scene where Asuka was fighting with severals EVAs?. One of the best fights in evangelion, but nothing here . Also I think Kaworu was introduced in original series better. And all story made more sense and progressed better.


I haven't seen 3.33 yet, but over the course of 1.11 and 2.22, it seems like Anno is trying to hype up Kaworu into someone far more important than he was in the series, where he showed up for, like, the last couple of episodes. It's like Anno is trying to say something by giving him early cameos, but they don't really make any sense to me; they as though they were forced into certain scenes where they didn't need to be. + Show Spoiler +
Gendo and Fuyutsuki circling the moon in 2.22 is the only example that comes to mind where dropping him in wasn't completely pointless, in my opinion.+ Show Spoiler +
And obviously at the very end of the same film where he practices his javelin-ing skills on Shinji, lol.
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Chemist391
Profile Joined October 2010
United States366 Posts
May 01 2013 23:32 GMT
#532
On May 01 2013 23:59 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 22:24 Tuczniak wrote:
I think the 3.33 was missing something. There wasn't really any wow moment or any good fight. In the NGE or maybe some movies there was a scene where Asuka was fighting with severals EVAs?. One of the best fights in evangelion, but nothing here . Also I think Kaworu was introduced in original series better. And all story made more sense and progressed better.


I haven't seen 3.33 yet, but over the course of 1.11 and 2.22, it seems like Anno is trying to hype up Kaworu into someone far more important than he was in the series, where he showed up for, like, the last couple of episodes. It's like Anno is trying to say something by giving him early cameos, but they don't really make any sense to me; they as though they were forced into certain scenes where they didn't need to be. + Show Spoiler +
Gendo and Fuyutsuki circling the moon in 2.22 is the only example that comes to mind where dropping him in wasn't completely pointless, in my opinion.+ Show Spoiler +
And obviously at the very end of the same film where he practices his javelin-ing skills on Shinji, lol.


When Kaworu first appeared in NGE, everyone went apeshit because here appears this random character who, in two episodes, manages to have a bigger emotional impact on Shinji than pretty much everyone else combined, barring Gendo. A more gradual introduction/build-up of Kaworu actually makes some sense.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 01 2013 23:43 GMT
#533
On May 02 2013 08:32 Chemist391 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 23:59 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On May 01 2013 22:24 Tuczniak wrote:
I think the 3.33 was missing something. There wasn't really any wow moment or any good fight. In the NGE or maybe some movies there was a scene where Asuka was fighting with severals EVAs?. One of the best fights in evangelion, but nothing here . Also I think Kaworu was introduced in original series better. And all story made more sense and progressed better.


I haven't seen 3.33 yet, but over the course of 1.11 and 2.22, it seems like Anno is trying to hype up Kaworu into someone far more important than he was in the series, where he showed up for, like, the last couple of episodes. It's like Anno is trying to say something by giving him early cameos, but they don't really make any sense to me; they as though they were forced into certain scenes where they didn't need to be. + Show Spoiler +
Gendo and Fuyutsuki circling the moon in 2.22 is the only example that comes to mind where dropping him in wasn't completely pointless, in my opinion.+ Show Spoiler +
And obviously at the very end of the same film where he practices his javelin-ing skills on Shinji, lol.


When Kaworu first appeared in NGE, everyone went apeshit because here appears this random character who, in two episodes, manages to have a bigger emotional impact on Shinji than pretty much everyone else combined, barring Gendo. A more gradual introduction/build-up of Kaworu actually makes some sense.


theres no arguement that pretty much every plot point was either rushed or not even explained properly in 3.33.

but coming from the series, everything is 'explained' later, so im hoping for all that in 4.44
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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
May 02 2013 00:26 GMT
#534
On May 02 2013 08:32 Chemist391 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 23:59 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On May 01 2013 22:24 Tuczniak wrote:
I think the 3.33 was missing something. There wasn't really any wow moment or any good fight. In the NGE or maybe some movies there was a scene where Asuka was fighting with severals EVAs?. One of the best fights in evangelion, but nothing here . Also I think Kaworu was introduced in original series better. And all story made more sense and progressed better.


I haven't seen 3.33 yet, but over the course of 1.11 and 2.22, it seems like Anno is trying to hype up Kaworu into someone far more important than he was in the series, where he showed up for, like, the last couple of episodes. It's like Anno is trying to say something by giving him early cameos, but they don't really make any sense to me; they as though they were forced into certain scenes where they didn't need to be. + Show Spoiler +
Gendo and Fuyutsuki circling the moon in 2.22 is the only example that comes to mind where dropping him in wasn't completely pointless, in my opinion.+ Show Spoiler +
And obviously at the very end of the same film where he practices his javelin-ing skills on Shinji, lol.


When Kaworu first appeared in NGE, everyone went apeshit because here appears this random character who, in two episodes, manages to have a bigger emotional impact on Shinji than pretty much everyone else combined, barring Gendo. A more gradual introduction/build-up of Kaworu actually makes some sense.


Yeah, but they show pretty much nothing of Kaworu. For example, + Show Spoiler +
he talks to himself (or whatever else he's talking to) a little in 1.11, and takes all of 2.22 to get his gear on and get off the moon
.

It sounds like he did a ton more stuff in 3.33, which, in my opinion, is the better way to go about introducing him as a character. It just seemed like mediocre "fanservice" in the first two films. If they want to make him more of a main character, they should have his appearances have some meaning behind them, or give him significantly more screen time.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 02 2013 02:34 GMT
#535
On May 02 2013 08:32 Chemist391 wrote:
When Kaworu first appeared in NGE, everyone went apeshit because here appears this random character who, in two episodes, manages to have a bigger emotional impact on Shinji than pretty much everyone else combined, barring Gendo. A more gradual introduction/build-up of Kaworu actually makes some sense.


http://imgur.com/GyeXaDl

It was a pretty cruel joke played on Shinji in my opinion.

Kaworu was the one person he was able to open up to and be comfortable around, after his dysfunctional family has completely fallen apart (Asuka trying to commiting suicide and now comatose, finding out Rei was manufactured and now being replaced with a new doll, Misato losing Kaji and almost starting a freudian relationship). Shinji even loved him.

And then he finds out he's an Angel.
And then he has to kill him before he starts the apocalypse.
And then he has to kill him with his own bare hands.

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 02 2013 03:11 GMT
#536
cant find a single good website that has 3.0 on it with any decent quality ffff
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 03:14:16
May 02 2013 03:14 GMT
#537
don't bother streaming it :x

torrent or buy the blu ray, no way it's going to be available in good quality or on a good platform.

http://www.amazon.com/Evangelion-New-Movie-Edition-Redo/dp/B00BHO70L0
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 02 2013 03:58 GMT
#538
On May 02 2013 11:34 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 08:32 Chemist391 wrote:
When Kaworu first appeared in NGE, everyone went apeshit because here appears this random character who, in two episodes, manages to have a bigger emotional impact on Shinji than pretty much everyone else combined, barring Gendo. A more gradual introduction/build-up of Kaworu actually makes some sense.


http://imgur.com/GyeXaDl


that was one scene i truly hoped they wouldve kept for the movies
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Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
May 02 2013 06:59 GMT
#539
Ok watched the 3rd one finally, my thoughts

+ Show Spoiler +
Overall pretty good, if very different. Totally not what I was expecting, but eh, that's perhaps a good thing.

The biggest jarring thing was the character designs for the new ones added and some of the new visual designs. The ship didn't really scream Evangelion to me, and particularly the two new bridge crew felt like gurren-lagaan characters, not evangelion characters. Evangelion characters have always been drawn with very sharp, narrow features, these guys were nothing like that and it jarred.

the 'curse of eva' thing seemed a bit forced- oh-hey let's keep the critical characters as their nubile teenage selves through DEM. I would have paid good cashmoney to see an adult asuka or rei dealing with the shit they are. Other than that I largely like the way they develop the existing cast. It's kind of wierd to see Maya acting all badass tho.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 07:29:23
May 02 2013 07:28 GMT
#540
On May 02 2013 15:59 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Ok watched the 3rd one finally, my thoughts

+ Show Spoiler +
Overall pretty good, if very different. Totally not what I was expecting, but eh, that's perhaps a good thing.

The biggest jarring thing was the character designs for the new ones added and some of the new visual designs. The ship didn't really scream Evangelion to me, and particularly the two new bridge crew felt like gurren-lagaan characters, not evangelion characters. Evangelion characters have always been drawn with very sharp, narrow features, these guys were nothing like that and it jarred.

the 'curse of eva' thing seemed a bit forced- oh-hey let's keep the critical characters as their nubile teenage selves through DEM. I would have paid good cashmoney to see an adult asuka or rei dealing with the shit they are. Other than that I largely like the way they develop the existing cast. It's kind of wierd to see Maya acting all badass tho.

I dunno man...
+ Show Spoiler +
The characters do not really make any sense and the development is very inconsistent with the previous two movies. Also, it's very unlikely you would find Rei as a grown adult because well, she's sort of just a disposable tool, so she gets disposed quite a bit. I think the Kaworu-related content was good though. Except for when Shinji went full retard at the end. Why did Shinji go full retard? And what the fuck Gendo.

As for character design, I thought it was alright except Misato. She looks a bit silly coming from what we all know her as. The whole 14 year skip was a rather poor idea since it caused there to be this obnoxious illogical gap between shit that happens. One year would have much more sense... Unless they really like 14 and it all comes together in the last movie...
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