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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 24 2012 03:45 GMT
#101
They film in Toronto at Bay-Adelaide. You can meet Rachel there.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 24 2012 03:46 GMT
#102
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:18 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 06:05 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:25 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 04:04 Buddhalol wrote:
My Dad is the 1st Assistant Director for this show, glad everyone likes it


tell him we demand more Rachel (without the whiny side) and Donna


Rachel looks great, but she annoys the hell out of me. The "you think that I'm not good enough for you line" has made me hope they just kill the character off next episode.

What the show really needs is more Donna.

yeah I agree, that scene was stupid and I have no clue how Mike came to the conclusion that breaking up would be best. That's why I said I want Rachel without the emodrama


Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.
Eoin
Profile Joined March 2011
19 Posts
June 24 2012 03:48 GMT
#103
Have to say im really looking forward to this season seeing the turf war beetween the 2 founding partners.
People keep mentioning burn notice in this thread is it actually any good because i watched half of like the first episode and it was decent until the woman with the worst irish accent ever appeared , i then paused it check imdb found out she was a main chatacter and never went back .
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 03:52:18
June 24 2012 03:48 GMT
#104
On June 24 2012 12:45 Mykill wrote:
They film in Toronto at Bay-Adelaide. You can meet Rachel there.


Attempts to land a gig as a grip/electrician/best boy/gaffer/programmer/assistant lighting designer are now in progress..........

Edit: I think that covers everything I'm qualified for in any remote way possible...
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 24 2012 03:52 GMT
#105
Thanks for this thread btw, I started watching this today and it's f'ing amazing.
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StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
June 24 2012 03:57 GMT
#106
On June 24 2012 12:46 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:18 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 06:05 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:25 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 04:04 Buddhalol wrote:
My Dad is the 1st Assistant Director for this show, glad everyone likes it


tell him we demand more Rachel (without the whiny side) and Donna


Rachel looks great, but she annoys the hell out of me. The "you think that I'm not good enough for you line" has made me hope they just kill the character off next episode.

What the show really needs is more Donna.

yeah I agree, that scene was stupid and I have no clue how Mike came to the conclusion that breaking up would be best. That's why I said I want Rachel without the emodrama


Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.


To be honest you're just filling in the (large) holes the director(s) of the show left out....between -not telling her the truth- and -breaking up with her-, there's about 50 other ways he could've avoided the breakup situation. And the writers didn't convince me that he was so righteous of a person he'd rather break up with someone than keep a lie between the two.


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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 24 2012 03:57 GMT
#107
On June 24 2012 12:48 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 12:45 Mykill wrote:
They film in Toronto at Bay-Adelaide. You can meet Rachel there.


Attempts to land a gig as a grip/electrician/best boy/gaffer/programmer/assistant lighting designer are now in progress..........

Edit: I think that covers everything I'm qualified for in any remote way possible...


Two classmates of mine have pictures with Harvey and Mike.
One works as an accountant in the tower they film.
One works as banker in tower next to where they film.

So perhaps you just need to land a job in Toronto lol.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 24 2012 04:04 GMT
#108
Watched first 2 episodes of s2, didn't watch s1. Not a fan so far tbh. Feels like a shallow boston legal without the humour to me. I'll give it one more episode though.
It's cute recognizing the filming locations though since I work right there. Don't see that often (I think last show I saw that was filmed in toronto was Flashpoint)
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RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
June 24 2012 04:06 GMT
#109
On June 24 2012 12:48 Eoin wrote:
Have to say im really looking forward to this season seeing the turf war beetween the 2 founding partners.
People keep mentioning burn notice in this thread is it actually any good because i watched half of like the first episode and it was decent until the woman with the worst irish accent ever appeared , i then paused it check imdb found out she was a main chatacter and never went back .


she loses the same irish accent the next episode. 7 or 8 seasons of her without the accent lol.....
We were all raised on televion that made us believe we'd all be Millionairs, Movie gods, and Rockstars..... But we won't.... We are slowly learning that fact. And we are very, very pissed off.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 24 2012 04:44 GMT
#110
On June 24 2012 12:57 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 12:46 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:18 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 06:05 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:25 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 04:04 Buddhalol wrote:
My Dad is the 1st Assistant Director for this show, glad everyone likes it


tell him we demand more Rachel (without the whiny side) and Donna


Rachel looks great, but she annoys the hell out of me. The "you think that I'm not good enough for you line" has made me hope they just kill the character off next episode.

What the show really needs is more Donna.

yeah I agree, that scene was stupid and I have no clue how Mike came to the conclusion that breaking up would be best. That's why I said I want Rachel without the emodrama


Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.


To be honest you're just filling in the (large) holes the director(s) of the show left out....between -not telling her the truth- and -breaking up with her-, there's about 50 other ways he could've avoided the breakup situation. And the writers didn't convince me that he was so righteous of a person he'd rather break up with someone than keep a lie between the two.



Don't think so. He just got dumped by Jenny for lying to her. The show makes it clear he doesn't want to lie to Rachel and he would rather break up with her instead of risking the relationship and even his job (he uses it as an excuse to her). He doesn't want to get into an untruthful relationship and that's that, I'm not filing in any holes. If anything you are assuming what he wants by rationalizing there are many ways other than what he actually does.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 04:51:28
June 24 2012 04:48 GMT
#111
On June 24 2012 13:04 JeeJee wrote:
Watched first 2 episodes of s2, didn't watch s1. Not a fan so far tbh. Feels like a shallow boston legal without the humour to me. I'll give it one more episode though.
It's cute recognizing the filming locations though since I work right there. Don't see that often (I think last show I saw that was filmed in toronto was Flashpoint)

Uhh I mean I won't attempt to convince you to like it or not but what did you expect skipping the entire season one? The best parts of the show are character development and interaction, and obviously you won't like it if you don't watch the first 12 episodes because you have no understaning of the consequences and the characters. It's like starting Game of Thrones with season 2 and deciding it's stupid because it has a midget running around and little dragons, as an extreme example.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
June 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#112
On June 24 2012 13:44 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 12:57 StyLeD wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:46 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:18 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 06:05 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:25 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 04:04 Buddhalol wrote:
My Dad is the 1st Assistant Director for this show, glad everyone likes it


tell him we demand more Rachel (without the whiny side) and Donna


Rachel looks great, but she annoys the hell out of me. The "you think that I'm not good enough for you line" has made me hope they just kill the character off next episode.

What the show really needs is more Donna.

yeah I agree, that scene was stupid and I have no clue how Mike came to the conclusion that breaking up would be best. That's why I said I want Rachel without the emodrama


Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.


To be honest you're just filling in the (large) holes the director(s) of the show left out....between -not telling her the truth- and -breaking up with her-, there's about 50 other ways he could've avoided the breakup situation. And the writers didn't convince me that he was so righteous of a person he'd rather break up with someone than keep a lie between the two.



Don't think so. He just got dumped by Jenny for lying to her. The show makes it clear he doesn't want to lie to Rachel and he would rather break up with her instead of risking the relationship and even his job (he uses it as an excuse to her). He doesn't want to get into an untruthful relationship and that's that, I'm not filing in any holes. If anything you are assuming what he wants by rationalizing there are many ways other than what he actually does.


Nah, I understand why he does it, but I still think it's silly. From a show standpoint, it would have been more interesting to have them as a couple for at least like...one episode, to create more drama when they do finally break up. From a realism standpoint, it's obvious that both of them are head over heels for each other, and I think rationally it would be okay to let this one lie go. Whether or not you graduated a college really is NOT a big lie in the grand scheme of things, and they would be so much happier together than apart. He can do what he wants, but I think it's stupid.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 24 2012 06:02 GMT
#113
On June 24 2012 14:40 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 13:44 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:57 StyLeD wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:46 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:18 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 06:05 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:25 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 04:04 Buddhalol wrote:
My Dad is the 1st Assistant Director for this show, glad everyone likes it


tell him we demand more Rachel (without the whiny side) and Donna


Rachel looks great, but she annoys the hell out of me. The "you think that I'm not good enough for you line" has made me hope they just kill the character off next episode.

What the show really needs is more Donna.

yeah I agree, that scene was stupid and I have no clue how Mike came to the conclusion that breaking up would be best. That's why I said I want Rachel without the emodrama


Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.


To be honest you're just filling in the (large) holes the director(s) of the show left out....between -not telling her the truth- and -breaking up with her-, there's about 50 other ways he could've avoided the breakup situation. And the writers didn't convince me that he was so righteous of a person he'd rather break up with someone than keep a lie between the two.



Don't think so. He just got dumped by Jenny for lying to her. The show makes it clear he doesn't want to lie to Rachel and he would rather break up with her instead of risking the relationship and even his job (he uses it as an excuse to her). He doesn't want to get into an untruthful relationship and that's that, I'm not filing in any holes. If anything you are assuming what he wants by rationalizing there are many ways other than what he actually does.


Nah, I understand why he does it, but I still think it's silly. From a show standpoint, it would have been more interesting to have them as a couple for at least like...one episode, to create more drama when they do finally break up. From a realism standpoint, it's obvious that both of them are head over heels for each other, and I think rationally it would be okay to let this one lie go. Whether or not you graduated a college really is NOT a big lie in the grand scheme of things, and they would be so much happier together than apart. He can do what he wants, but I think it's stupid.

Except Mike's secret is MUCH bigger than just not graduating. Donna is spot on when she calls him Mr. Fraud. Mike's history can absolutely ruin both Harvey and Jessica especially now that Hardman is waging war on them.
On the bolded point, i feel a lot of empathy for Mike when he says something along the lines of "i love working with you too much to sabotage it with a relationship". I dated a close friend who was also a classmate, when the relationship went to shit, our previous 'level' of friendship would never return to what it was and now we barely speak. I wish i had done what Mike did =/
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
June 24 2012 06:12 GMT
#114
On June 24 2012 15:02 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 14:40 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 13:44 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:57 StyLeD wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:46 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:18 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 06:05 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:25 Skilledblob wrote:
[quote]

tell him we demand more Rachel (without the whiny side) and Donna


Rachel looks great, but she annoys the hell out of me. The "you think that I'm not good enough for you line" has made me hope they just kill the character off next episode.

What the show really needs is more Donna.

yeah I agree, that scene was stupid and I have no clue how Mike came to the conclusion that breaking up would be best. That's why I said I want Rachel without the emodrama


Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.


To be honest you're just filling in the (large) holes the director(s) of the show left out....between -not telling her the truth- and -breaking up with her-, there's about 50 other ways he could've avoided the breakup situation. And the writers didn't convince me that he was so righteous of a person he'd rather break up with someone than keep a lie between the two.



Don't think so. He just got dumped by Jenny for lying to her. The show makes it clear he doesn't want to lie to Rachel and he would rather break up with her instead of risking the relationship and even his job (he uses it as an excuse to her). He doesn't want to get into an untruthful relationship and that's that, I'm not filing in any holes. If anything you are assuming what he wants by rationalizing there are many ways other than what he actually does.


Nah, I understand why he does it, but I still think it's silly. From a show standpoint, it would have been more interesting to have them as a couple for at least like...one episode, to create more drama when they do finally break up. From a realism standpoint, it's obvious that both of them are head over heels for each other, and I think rationally it would be okay to let this one lie go. Whether or not you graduated a college really is NOT a big lie in the grand scheme of things, and they would be so much happier together than apart. He can do what he wants, but I think it's stupid.

Except Mike's secret is MUCH bigger than just not graduating. Donna is spot on when she calls him Mr. Fraud. Mike's history can absolutely ruin both Harvey and Jessica especially now that Hardman is waging war on them.


Sure, but that has nothing to do with his personal relationships. Based on this logic, he has doomed himself to date nobody for the rest of his life, because this is a secret he is likely to keep until the day he retires, or gets caught.

I'm not saying he should tell her, and risk everyone's future. I'm saying he should keep the white lie and be happy with his dream girl, and someday maybe he'll tell her and she won't care because they've been together for so long. What's his plan here, die alone?
We found Dove in a soapless place.
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
June 24 2012 09:10 GMT
#115
On June 24 2012 15:12 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 15:02 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 14:40 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 13:44 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:57 StyLeD wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:46 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:18 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 24 2012 06:05 hzflank wrote:
[quote]

Rachel looks great, but she annoys the hell out of me. The "you think that I'm not good enough for you line" has made me hope they just kill the character off next episode.

What the show really needs is more Donna.

yeah I agree, that scene was stupid and I have no clue how Mike came to the conclusion that breaking up would be best. That's why I said I want Rachel without the emodrama


Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.


To be honest you're just filling in the (large) holes the director(s) of the show left out....between -not telling her the truth- and -breaking up with her-, there's about 50 other ways he could've avoided the breakup situation. And the writers didn't convince me that he was so righteous of a person he'd rather break up with someone than keep a lie between the two.



Don't think so. He just got dumped by Jenny for lying to her. The show makes it clear he doesn't want to lie to Rachel and he would rather break up with her instead of risking the relationship and even his job (he uses it as an excuse to her). He doesn't want to get into an untruthful relationship and that's that, I'm not filing in any holes. If anything you are assuming what he wants by rationalizing there are many ways other than what he actually does.


Nah, I understand why he does it, but I still think it's silly. From a show standpoint, it would have been more interesting to have them as a couple for at least like...one episode, to create more drama when they do finally break up. From a realism standpoint, it's obvious that both of them are head over heels for each other, and I think rationally it would be okay to let this one lie go. Whether or not you graduated a college really is NOT a big lie in the grand scheme of things, and they would be so much happier together than apart. He can do what he wants, but I think it's stupid.

Except Mike's secret is MUCH bigger than just not graduating. Donna is spot on when she calls him Mr. Fraud. Mike's history can absolutely ruin both Harvey and Jessica especially now that Hardman is waging war on them.


Sure, but that has nothing to do with his personal relationships. Based on this logic, he has doomed himself to date nobody for the rest of his life, because this is a secret he is likely to keep until the day he retires, or gets caught.

I'm not saying he should tell her, and risk everyone's future. I'm saying he should keep the white lie and be happy with his dream girl, and someday maybe he'll tell her and she won't care because they've been together for so long. What's his plan here, die alone?

Well for one, meeting someone outside the office and keeping the lie is way easier than having to date someone you work with and not telling them who you really are... Also, she has way more power to ruin his life if things get sour compared to some other random girl outside the office. But yes, you have a point in which they will have a hard time to make him date a girl and being honest at the same time...
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
June 24 2012 09:48 GMT
#116
On June 24 2012 18:10 ZpuX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 15:12 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 15:02 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 14:40 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 13:44 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:57 StyLeD wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:46 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:18 Skilledblob wrote:
[quote]
yeah I agree, that scene was stupid and I have no clue how Mike came to the conclusion that breaking up would be best. That's why I said I want Rachel without the emodrama


Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.


To be honest you're just filling in the (large) holes the director(s) of the show left out....between -not telling her the truth- and -breaking up with her-, there's about 50 other ways he could've avoided the breakup situation. And the writers didn't convince me that he was so righteous of a person he'd rather break up with someone than keep a lie between the two.



Don't think so. He just got dumped by Jenny for lying to her. The show makes it clear he doesn't want to lie to Rachel and he would rather break up with her instead of risking the relationship and even his job (he uses it as an excuse to her). He doesn't want to get into an untruthful relationship and that's that, I'm not filing in any holes. If anything you are assuming what he wants by rationalizing there are many ways other than what he actually does.


Nah, I understand why he does it, but I still think it's silly. From a show standpoint, it would have been more interesting to have them as a couple for at least like...one episode, to create more drama when they do finally break up. From a realism standpoint, it's obvious that both of them are head over heels for each other, and I think rationally it would be okay to let this one lie go. Whether or not you graduated a college really is NOT a big lie in the grand scheme of things, and they would be so much happier together than apart. He can do what he wants, but I think it's stupid.

Except Mike's secret is MUCH bigger than just not graduating. Donna is spot on when she calls him Mr. Fraud. Mike's history can absolutely ruin both Harvey and Jessica especially now that Hardman is waging war on them.


Sure, but that has nothing to do with his personal relationships. Based on this logic, he has doomed himself to date nobody for the rest of his life, because this is a secret he is likely to keep until the day he retires, or gets caught.

I'm not saying he should tell her, and risk everyone's future. I'm saying he should keep the white lie and be happy with his dream girl, and someday maybe he'll tell her and she won't care because they've been together for so long. What's his plan here, die alone?

Well for one, meeting someone outside the office and keeping the lie is way easier than having to date someone you work with and not telling them who you really are... Also, she has way more power to ruin his life if things get sour compared to some other random girl outside the office. But yes, you have a point in which they will have a hard time to make him date a girl and being honest at the same time...


What you say is true, but, I'm not sure that Rachel really has more power than any random girl. His friend pranced right into the firm building and exposed Mike for what he is, I'm sure any scorned lover could do the same. In fact, the secret would probably be safer with Rachel because a.) she's level-headed and logical, b.) her job security would likely be higher if she kept the secret than if she gave all the power in the firm to Hardman.

In the series, my prediction is that she's eventually going to find out some other way, and then they'll hook up and have crazy lawyer sex.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 10:05:15
June 24 2012 10:03 GMT
#117
On June 24 2012 18:48 Cel.erity wrote:
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On June 24 2012 18:10 ZpuX wrote:
On June 24 2012 15:12 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 15:02 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 14:40 Cel.erity wrote:
On June 24 2012 13:44 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:57 StyLeD wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:46 OneOther wrote:
On June 24 2012 12:32 ShadeR wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:24 Cel.erity wrote:
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Does seem silly to me. He really wants to be honest with her, but I think it's better to be happy with her and lie than to be miserable without her and still lie. It's not as if breaking up with her makes him any more honest.

Breaking up with her means he doesn't need to be truthful with her. Remember the scene where Rachael tells Donna how she and Mike can tell each other anything and Donna makes a derp face? If you can't have an honest relationship then don't have a relationship at all, i think is pretty reasonable.

Yea, this is it. He likes her a lot and doesn't want to risk hurting her and being dishonest with her. And he obviously can't tell her the truth, as shown by his conversation with Harvey.


To be honest you're just filling in the (large) holes the director(s) of the show left out....between -not telling her the truth- and -breaking up with her-, there's about 50 other ways he could've avoided the breakup situation. And the writers didn't convince me that he was so righteous of a person he'd rather break up with someone than keep a lie between the two.



Don't think so. He just got dumped by Jenny for lying to her. The show makes it clear he doesn't want to lie to Rachel and he would rather break up with her instead of risking the relationship and even his job (he uses it as an excuse to her). He doesn't want to get into an untruthful relationship and that's that, I'm not filing in any holes. If anything you are assuming what he wants by rationalizing there are many ways other than what he actually does.


Nah, I understand why he does it, but I still think it's silly. From a show standpoint, it would have been more interesting to have them as a couple for at least like...one episode, to create more drama when they do finally break up. From a realism standpoint, it's obvious that both of them are head over heels for each other, and I think rationally it would be okay to let this one lie go. Whether or not you graduated a college really is NOT a big lie in the grand scheme of things, and they would be so much happier together than apart. He can do what he wants, but I think it's stupid.

Except Mike's secret is MUCH bigger than just not graduating. Donna is spot on when she calls him Mr. Fraud. Mike's history can absolutely ruin both Harvey and Jessica especially now that Hardman is waging war on them.


Sure, but that has nothing to do with his personal relationships. Based on this logic, he has doomed himself to date nobody for the rest of his life, because this is a secret he is likely to keep until the day he retires, or gets caught.

I'm not saying he should tell her, and risk everyone's future. I'm saying he should keep the white lie and be happy with his dream girl, and someday maybe he'll tell her and she won't care because they've been together for so long. What's his plan here, die alone?

Well for one, meeting someone outside the office and keeping the lie is way easier than having to date someone you work with and not telling them who you really are... Also, she has way more power to ruin his life if things get sour compared to some other random girl outside the office. But yes, you have a point in which they will have a hard time to make him date a girl and being honest at the same time...


What you say is true, but, I'm not sure that Rachel really has more power than any random girl. His friend pranced right into the firm building and exposed Mike for what he is, I'm sure any scorned lover could do the same. In fact, the secret would probably be safer with Rachel because a.) she's level-headed and logical, b.) her job security would likely be higher if she kept the secret than if she gave all the power in the firm to Hardman.

In the series, my prediction is that she's eventually going to find out some other way, and then they'll hook up and have crazy lawyer sex.

I think it's also worth considering that regardless of whether she has more power or not but rather Mike's dirty little secret is one that will affect Rachael more than any other girl. Jenny knows Mike did go Harvard? It's no big deal, it doesn't mean all that much to her. Rachael on the other hand knows she would would make a better lawyer than the majority of those first year associate boobs but is stuck a paralegal because she can't test for shit. She is held down by the system and i think its a sure thing that when she finds out her boyfriend has cheated the system, the shit will hit the fan.

Edit: But crazy lawyer sex.... forget everything i just wrote they need to be together!
nVusPip
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom260 Posts
June 24 2012 12:02 GMT
#118
This show is fantastic Can't get enough of it lol
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
June 24 2012 12:20 GMT
#119
Dled the first two episodes, gonna give thjis show a try, after watching the trailer, seems like a decent show to watch, because there is not really anything in the summer time.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 16:18:10
June 24 2012 16:17 GMT
#120
On June 24 2012 13:48 OneOther wrote:
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On June 24 2012 13:04 JeeJee wrote:
Watched first 2 episodes of s2, didn't watch s1. Not a fan so far tbh. Feels like a shallow boston legal without the humour to me. I'll give it one more episode though.
It's cute recognizing the filming locations though since I work right there. Don't see that often (I think last show I saw that was filmed in toronto was Flashpoint)

Uhh I mean I won't attempt to convince you to like it or not but what did you expect skipping the entire season one? The best parts of the show are character development and interaction, and obviously you won't like it if you don't watch the first 12 episodes because you have no understaning of the consequences and the characters. It's like starting Game of Thrones with season 2 and deciding it's stupid because it has a midget running around and little dragons, as an extreme example.


If you're saying season 2 can't stand on its own then I predict this will be a short-lived show.. do you expect the vast majority of viewers to see suits on TV and go "ah suits! season 2 though, guess I better not watch it until I get my hands on the season 1 dvd" if they missed it the first time around?

Either way, I dl'd and watched the first 2 episodes of season 1, seemed to be more of the same. Guess the show is just not for me, oh well.
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