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InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
January 02 2012 15:03 GMT
#81
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Roban
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands73 Posts
January 02 2012 15:31 GMT
#82
On January 02 2012 19:02 aebriol wrote:
...
I read a ton of books (200-300+ a year)
...


Really believable... Or do you read 10 page books?

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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
January 02 2012 18:46 GMT
#83
Books were okay, movie looks pretty shitty though. Not expecting much but hopefully I get surprised.
lalala
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
January 02 2012 18:58 GMT
#84
I just find the concept of a society watching children fight to the death for their amusement so ridiculously abhorrent. And as far as I can tell, a lot of this book and this movie are going to be the same thing. How does watching this main character kill other children, and watching the other children kill each other, not make us just as bad as the country in the movie?

Seriously think about it, if you watch this movie you will be watching children kill each other for your entertainment. "At least they're not real children it's a movie" doesn't cut it for me.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Mavkar
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany592 Posts
January 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#85
That is kinda the whole point. Like most war-movies are actually anti-war movies because the viewer should feel repelled and freaked out by the things. By not just accepting these surroundings but actually think about the morals and ethics the viewer/reader should experience a learning process, often the same as the main character.

I am currently reading the books, almost finished with the 2nd. They are a pretty short and light read, yeah, but nervertheless I have to force myself to stop reading. It is really actionpacked with unexpected turns around every corner so it should work out great for a movie. I don't think the characters are as shallow as some of the people in here make it out to be. They are teenagers, thrown into an absolut absurd experience over and over again. There is not much time for self-reflection and big monologue parts in the books. If written for an adult audience they could have been easily twice as long I feel.

I am really excited for the movie. Spring will be good with Season 2 of GoT and Hunger Games movie. I guess the movie willl be successfull in the States because the books are quite popular there. Don't know about Europe and the german market though. But if that's the kind of books teenager read today it's all ok!

Oh, and Safe and Sound from Taylor Swift is on repeat for me. Really just a great song and as already mentioned it catches the vibes of the books right on point.

The cast so far seems good and matches some of my own pictures. But what I never thought about is race. You cann see in the trailer that Cinna and Rue are black and the world is set in a dystopian North America so it makes sense to have different people.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
January 02 2012 19:46 GMT
#86
They shouldve used the book as a rough storyline and had the children be like 17 or a bit older. They look like children.
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KickerPics
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States8 Posts
January 02 2012 20:38 GMT
#87
The books were amazing, so I'm really excited for this movie.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 07 2012 02:45 GMT
#88
On January 03 2012 04:46 Spicy_Curry wrote:
They shouldve used the book as a rough storyline and had the children be like 17 or a bit older. They look like children.

That can mess with the meaning of the story though. Good children actors are rare, but they do exist.

As for the shallowness of the characters. The author doesn't go into a lot of details describing the characters, but she goes into their thought processes for every action.

+ Show Spoiler +

Katniss doesn't just put on a dress and twirl. She's thinking the entire time about the effect that her interview with Caesar will have on giving her sponsors and how she's doesn't have a good enough personality to do it. She doesn't just have one person give her advice and then follow that advice. She has her mentor and guide give her advice, rejects both of them because she can't pull them off, and then her stylist Cinna tells her to just act natural and let her anger show if she has any. Then she goes to look at Cinna when he's in the audience to give her courage and acts natural but doesn't say anything bad about the Capitol. The details in the book seem amazing to me, but maybe I just haven't read anything else lately and they're mediocre compared to other things.

All in all, I don't think the characters are one-dimensional. There's too much information about each of them, enough that you feel like you really know them. Katniss doesn't just think killing is wrong and decide not to kill. She knows that in a situation of life and death she will kill. And she does kill. And she even pulls an arrow on Peeta when he's trying to suicide for her, and again on finnick when he's giving Peeta CPR and she doesn't realize it. Shallow would mean you would guess she'd have done that. The characters are not shallow.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Th30nE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States44 Posts
January 07 2012 03:19 GMT
#89
The movie will be good, maybe even above average, but wont do the book justice, atleast i dont see it happening. Dont like the actors casted for Katniss/Peeta/Gale either, the rest of the cast seems ok tho. Heres to hoping it suprises me :D
and comparing these movies to twilight is bm for sure. consider: * > Twilight.
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buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
January 07 2012 03:23 GMT
#90
On January 03 2012 00:31 Roban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 19:02 aebriol wrote:
...
I read a ton of books (200-300+ a year)
...


Really believable... Or do you read 10 page books?


i think he means he reas 200-300 book titles a year when he goes to the bookstore.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
January 07 2012 03:36 GMT
#91
On January 07 2012 11:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 04:46 Spicy_Curry wrote:
They shouldve used the book as a rough storyline and had the children be like 17 or a bit older. They look like children.

That can mess with the meaning of the story though. Good children actors are rare, but they do exist.

As for the shallowness of the characters. The author doesn't go into a lot of details describing the characters, but she goes into their thought processes for every action.

+ Show Spoiler +

Katniss doesn't just put on a dress and twirl. She's thinking the entire time about the effect that her interview with Caesar will have on giving her sponsors and how she's doesn't have a good enough personality to do it. She doesn't just have one person give her advice and then follow that advice. She has her mentor and guide give her advice, rejects both of them because she can't pull them off, and then her stylist Cinna tells her to just act natural and let her anger show if she has any. Then she goes to look at Cinna when he's in the audience to give her courage and acts natural but doesn't say anything bad about the Capitol. The details in the book seem amazing to me, but maybe I just haven't read anything else lately and they're mediocre compared to other things.

All in all, I don't think the characters are one-dimensional. There's too much information about each of them, enough that you feel like you really know them. Katniss doesn't just think killing is wrong and decide not to kill. She knows that in a situation of life and death she will kill. And she does kill. And she even pulls an arrow on Peeta when he's trying to suicide for her, and again on finnick when he's giving Peeta CPR and she doesn't realize it. Shallow would mean you would guess she'd have done that. The characters are not shallow.


Excellent post, so very true. It does emphasise their thinking pretty significantly and often / in depth and we do learn a considerable amount about the characters to make them feel more real. It's certainly not a masterful piece of literature but it's far from terrible. That said the movie could be amazing, average or terrible depending on how it's done etc.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
January 07 2012 04:51 GMT
#92
On January 03 2012 04:26 Mavkar wrote:
That is kinda the whole point. Like most war-movies are actually anti-war movies because the viewer should feel repelled and freaked out by the things. By not just accepting these surroundings but actually think about the morals and ethics the viewer/reader should experience a learning process, often the same as the main character.

I am currently reading the books, almost finished with the 2nd. They are a pretty short and light read, yeah, but nervertheless I have to force myself to stop reading. It is really actionpacked with unexpected turns around every corner so it should work out great for a movie. I don't think the characters are as shallow as some of the people in here make it out to be. They are teenagers, thrown into an absolut absurd experience over and over again. There is not much time for self-reflection and big monologue parts in the books. If written for an adult audience they could have been easily twice as long I feel.

I am really excited for the movie. Spring will be good with Season 2 of GoT and Hunger Games movie. I guess the movie willl be successfull in the States because the books are quite popular there. Don't know about Europe and the german market though. But if that's the kind of books teenager read today it's all ok!

Oh, and Safe and Sound from Taylor Swift is on repeat for me. Really just a great song and as already mentioned it catches the vibes of the books right on point.

The cast so far seems good and matches some of my own pictures. But what I never thought about is race. You cann see in the trailer that Cinna and Rue are black and the world is set in a dystopian North America so it makes sense to have different people.


That really doesn't cut it for me. People are going to watch this as an action movie, not a social criticism. And war movies criticize war; what is this supposed to criticize, our rampant child murder entertainment industry? No, people are going to see this movie for an adventure, and this movie still sickens me.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 05:13:33
January 07 2012 05:09 GMT
#93
On January 03 2012 03:58 strongandbig wrote:
I just find the concept of a society watching children fight to the death for their amusement so ridiculously abhorrent. And as far as I can tell, a lot of this book and this movie are going to be the same thing. How does watching this main character kill other children, and watching the other children kill each other, not make us just as bad as the country in the movie?

Seriously think about it, if you watch this movie you will be watching children kill each other for your entertainment. "At least they're not real children it's a movie" doesn't cut it for me.


That is a really interesting point, given that the book seems to condemn the concept.(generally criticizing the 'Bread and Circuses' approach, ie the Circus of children killing each other is more important than the children killing each other to the capital citizens)

Of course the issue is if a "Circus of violence and concentration of power" will prove a sufficient distraction from actual violence and concentrations of power.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 07 2012 05:16 GMT
#94
tbh i thought the books were a little too... simple, flat?

not good, not bad. eh. my friends are really into it though so i hope i'm surprised by this movie.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
January 07 2012 08:16 GMT
#95
i just want the third movie to come out. more war and destruction
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
January 07 2012 13:41 GMT
#96
I've seen BR, read the HG books. Sure there are children fighting, but that's where the similarity ends. The writing was good, but most importantly it was very engaging and I really couldn't stop reading it, which lately happens very rarely.

The trailer is done very well and if the movie looks anything like it, I will be more than satisfied. I would even put it on top of my list for 2012. That is until Prometheus trailer comes out
domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 05:20:56
January 08 2012 05:19 GMT
#97
Maybe I'm just too old and cranky, but the books were probably the worst written books I have read in a long time. The plot was cliched and predictable and the author used way, way, way too much deus ex machina. Also, a lot of the character interactions were just unconvincing. Also, the dystopian government was unrealistically evil and was simply there to drive sympathy to the main character. And I hate when a book tries to mess with my feelings like that.

All that being said, I still enjoyed reading it and read it within 24 hours.
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 10:06:27
January 17 2012 10:02 GMT
#98
Is this a remake of Battle Royale? The plot sounds awfully similar.
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
January 17 2012 10:03 GMT
#99
No, it's not.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
January 17 2012 10:09 GMT
#100
how is this not battle royale? looks pretty decent though
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