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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 10 2011 16:38 GMT
#1241
Amazing how someone got from the flower scene, that Walt poisoned the kid.

Great season finale, but makes me wonder how the hell is this going to continue next season. Walt doing his own business? Gus's minions going after him, new cartel?

Good fucking show.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
October 10 2011 16:39 GMT
#1242
so what will happen in season 5?
wonder if mike will still be in it, but i can hardly imagine him as antagonist, but he is pretty much the only involved person who survived this season (besides saul and skyla, but they always belonged to the "relatively" good characters). also since next season was announced as the last season, i kinda doubt they will introduce another big antagonist as was gus.

but, oh well, have been wrong every single time with my speculations about future episodes lol.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
October 10 2011 16:40 GMT
#1243
On October 11 2011 00:57 zalz wrote:
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Mind = blown
wow thats awesome. ;0
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
October 10 2011 16:46 GMT
#1244
First of all, how great of a series has !breaking bad" been practically since its start?
Its so unbelievably rare that a series keeps up, or even ups its quality in the way "breaking bad" has managed to do it.

Since people already wrote about the episode without putting spoiler tags in i'll just say
SPOILER AHEAD
and continued.

I'm happy with the episode and its conclusion.
Although gus was a great character (and giancarlo esposito better get a fucking supporting actor nomination along with mark margolis for guest actor) he had to go to make way for the last season with its most basic theme of the ultimate conculsion to walts downfall. (and i fucking hope jesse will pull that trigger and at long last get to know what happened to jane that night)

I was so unbelievably scared while watching the episode that gilligan will pull of a "chase" and end the series right here (which in itself would also have been awesome), but i am happy we're getting whooping 16 more episodes to wrap up this masterpiece of a tv-show.

As for the episode itself:

*ringring*
"I won."

Nuff said.
Or not, because i think i have to reiterate how great mark margolis as tio was. You have to imagine how little room he had to shine in that role, without much gestures and any speech, purely by that little bit of mimic he brought the character to life...unbelievably great.


--

at last, i gotta say i feel cheated by myself. The final conclusion would've been much more shocking and of a wtf-moment if i didnt feel the need to speculate all over the interwebs with hundreds of likeminded people about the "who did it?"-question of the penultimate episode.
I've gone into this episode with a 95% certainess that that last scene would be exactly what it ended up being, so no shocker there.

But well, its still great we can discuss for dozens of pages one single scene in this magnificent show, isnt it? :D


On October 10 2011 21:54 Teejing wrote:
i would recommend "friday night lights" and " the wire" and "games of thrones", but if you can read go for the books.


While that all are great shows all around they are not in the slightest comparable to "breaking bad", which is great because there is literally no show like it.
"The wire" is awesome, no question there, but it lacks the suspense (like both other shows aswell) which makes breaking bad so unbelievably tense.
"GoT" is pretty good aswell, even though as a book reader one has to come to the conclusion that its not close to "the best ever".
"FNL" at last is one great social tv drama show, but its not even comparable in the slightest.

Still, all solid picks for a show to watch in the meanwhile.


I myself have to say that with this fourth season, and its preceeding three seasons, "breaking bad" has elevated itself at long last into a league with "The wire" and "The sopranos" as the third show i'd consider labeling as "one of the best ever".
They better not fuck up s5, lol.


"Eyo lesson' here, Bey. You're comin' at the king, you best not miss."
Zyrae
Profile Joined August 2010
France42 Posts
October 10 2011 16:47 GMT
#1245
On October 10 2011 21:21 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 21:18 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 10 2011 21:10 Prox wrote:


Im happy there is no major cliffhanger, I couldnt bear to wait until 2012 for things to clear up. This is the best show Ive ever seen by far. Anyone knows a show that comes anywhere close? Downtime sucks


go watch

Boardwalk Empire
Game of Thrones

Walking Dead season 2 is gonna start isnt it?


Yes, next week.

Good final, not too many suprises, still enjoyable. Not a fan of the cheesy half blown head scene though.
zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
October 10 2011 16:52 GMT
#1246
going to miss gus. that death scene was pretty bad too. breaking bad always had some extreme killings, but this was a bit ridiculous. it would have been way more dramatic if he never walked out afterwards.

either way, pretty cool that you guys figured out the plant poisoning thing, i was waiting for that the entire episode
TYBG
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
October 10 2011 17:05 GMT
#1247
Holy fucking shit ! What an episode and season we had.

I still dont know who is scarier from Walt and Gus.... they are both sick motherfuckers ! I wonder what course the last season will take but I can guess it will end with Walt dying in some crazy way. But I would like him to die from his illness .... he is too badass to be killed by someone else.

On October 10 2011 11:51 OrangeSoda wrote:
when he walked out, i was like what the... then i was like oh dam.


Yea I had the same reaction haha. For a moment I thought Gus was unstoppable walking out of the room so calmly like nothing happened at all.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 10 2011 17:06 GMT
#1248
Holy holy shit this was AWESOME. Its been a long time since a seasons finale didnt disappoint. Really will miss Gus, he was an awesome bad guy
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TexasToast
Profile Joined March 2011
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 17:12:00
October 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#1249
On October 10 2011 21:18 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 21:10 Prox wrote:


Im happy there is no major cliffhanger, I couldnt bear to wait until 2012 for things to clear up. This is the best show Ive ever seen by far. Anyone knows a show that comes anywhere close? Downtime sucks


go watch

Boardwalk Empire
Game of Thrones


Breaking Bad is a good show but there are better shows IMO

The Wire
Deadwood
Mad Men

to name a few
Mattes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1116 Posts
October 10 2011 17:12 GMT
#1250
On October 11 2011 02:06 Beyonder wrote:
Its been a long time since a seasons finale didnt disappoint.


You clearly dont watch "Justified" because it had a kickass 2nd season + season finale and has been pretty much my #2 show this "year" (as in 2010/11-season)

(and yes, this is an unconditionally recommendation :D)
"Eyo lesson' here, Bey. You're comin' at the king, you best not miss."
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
October 10 2011 17:13 GMT
#1251
loved it, every single minute of it! did not get one thing however:

+ Show Spoiler +
How did he poison the kid? i mean when exactly and how ?

GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
October 10 2011 17:13 GMT
#1252
Sickest season finale. + Show Spoiler +
Gus leaving Hector's room after the explosion in profile and appearing to be alright only to be shown to have half a face afterwards
Chills this season was so good.
TexasToast
Profile Joined March 2011
United States82 Posts
October 10 2011 17:14 GMT
#1253
I should also add that I thought the death scene with Gus really detracted from the scene / moment overall. I'm really surprised they chose to go with the extremely cheesy CGI death. I think it would have been much better if they had panned to the room and showed the damage/empty wheelchair.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
October 10 2011 17:17 GMT
#1254
On October 11 2011 02:06 Beyonder wrote:
Holy holy shit this was AWESOME. Its been a long time since a seasons finale didnt disappoint. Really will miss Gus, he was an awesome bad guy


Yeah, Gus was up there with Walter and Jesse in character importance. Show isn't going to be the same without him. Gotta wonder if next season is going to be a three-way showdown between Hank, Jesse and Walter instead.
dagoodoneEU
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany8 Posts
October 10 2011 17:20 GMT
#1255
SPOILERALERT
I wonder what happend to the real poison, the kid didn´t take it.

Also: How exactly did Gus find out about the carbomb? Did he see it? Seems obvious but they didn´t say a word about it.

I belive in the final season they will show how Walt will go out of that business and return to his casual life. There are still people knowing who he is. At least mike.
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
October 10 2011 17:24 GMT
#1256
If you sum it up, basicly, Walt is now the new Gus. Although in the show it always looked like his intentions were good, a lot of them were still harsch decisions.

Jesse's girl, the poison, all the killing.. Walt ain't no angel!
.............
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
October 10 2011 17:25 GMT
#1257
So, for all the people complaining about how cheesy Gus' death was, I have to say: in principle, I agree with you. It didn't really feel like the sort of thing that fit in with the show.

Still, did anyone else see it how I did? I was watching, and the moment Gus walks out the door I start trying to think up how in the hell he could have survived it. Gus has been built up more and more this season with scenes like him walking into the clear against sniper fire and killing off the top echelon of the drug cartel. So my mind is racing trying to think what the fuck they could do to excuse his surviving that explosion, especially as he is just adjusting his tie after it. Then they cut to his face with the missing flesh and the eye socket and the shine of bone, and am I the only one that immediately thought

+ Show Spoiler +
Holy shit, he's the fucking Terminator!!!!
Pharaun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany150 Posts
October 10 2011 17:29 GMT
#1258
On October 11 2011 02:20 dagoodoneEU wrote:
SPOILERALERT
I wonder what happend to the real poison, the kid didn´t take it.

Also: How exactly did Gus find out about the carbomb? Did he see it? Seems obvious but they didn´t say a word about it.

I belive in the final season they will show how Walt will go out of that business and return to his casual life. There are still people knowing who he is. At least mike.



walt took the ricin, so that jesse had to think gus has poisned the kid with it.

the last scene: at first i thought ok, hes fine, he pulled at his jacked, so i thought he had something liek a buleltproof vest, because teh explosion didnt looked sooo big, then i thought, no he cant survive, i thought he had a shrapnel (?) in his chest...all in 2 seconds i guess^^
It has to start somewhere. - It has to start sometime. - What better place than here. - What better time than now?!!!! -All hell can't stop us now
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
October 10 2011 17:31 GMT
#1259
On October 11 2011 02:20 dagoodoneEU wrote:
SPOILERALERT
I wonder what happend to the real poison, the kid didn´t take it.

Also: How exactly did Gus find out about the carbomb? Did he see it? Seems obvious but they didn´t say a word about it.

I belive in the final season they will show how Walt will go out of that business and return to his casual life. There are still people knowing who he is. At least mike.


He probably knew about the cigarette Ricin poison plan via his intelligence and cameras.

Add in that Jesse's wanabee "son" mysteriously gets poisoned. And it means Jesse wouldn't come to work, thus forcing Gus to personally visit Jesse, which in turn gives Walter an opportunity to strike away from Gus' usually meticulous security. Gus knew that Walter poisoned the kid and planned to strike since a few days earlier, Gus had threatened to kill his entire family.

Long story short, he knew something was wierd and that Walt had gone off the radar for a few days.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 17:36:44
October 10 2011 17:36 GMT
#1260
So he did do the poisoning he's no longer breaking bad he's broken... Meaning the final season will not be his redemption but his downfall. So he's no longer folk hero in a way he's just villain, it will be an interesting final season none the less, i do wonder what will fall though first, his relationship with hank or with jesse.
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