EPTI always thought that Victarion's fleet is going to be instrumental in shipping the unsullied to Westeros in case Daenerys ever so wishes to leave Meereen.
In any case, that would mean that Euron will play a bigger role down the road?
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helpman176
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I always thought that Victarion's fleet is going to be instrumental in shipping the unsullied to Westeros in case Daenerys ever so wishes to leave Meereen. In any case, that would mean that Euron will play a bigger role down the road? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On May 27 2015 05:52 Spaylz wrote: Wow. Amazing stuff. I want Mads Mikkelsen as Euron Greyjoy, please. Looks like we will get a ned robert flashback to hint at R+L=J | ||
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Lord of Time, come to us in our confusion. For the Timeline is dark and full of errors. | ||
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brian
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On May 27 2015 12:58 brian wrote: the cersei scene incoming was one of the most powerful scenes to me, and I assume it has been talked about to death in the last 500 posts I haven't read. does anyone else think the build up hasn't been good enough for cersei's character? I don't necessarily want her torn apart in the show like I did in the books. she just isn't as bad or as fragile to have that dual conflict of whether you want her to go through it. I'm just not as invested in it. Yeah, Cersei's plot line in the show hasn't been developed as well as it could have been. In the books her plot line was one of the best descriptions of someone screwing themselves over I've read. But the show is moving at light-speed and the kids are already complaining that it's too boring this season. I've been enjoying it, but the last two books set my expectations at a low level, which probably helps. Shruggles... | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On May 27 2015 17:15 Cricketer12 wrote: I honestly loved the last two books, what are you guys complaining about? Well the general opinion of the last two books is that they are worse than the first three. I disagree (AFFC is my favorite of all five), but that's how most people see it | ||
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Cricketer12
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On May 27 2015 19:53 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well the general opinion of the last two books is that they are worse than the first three. I disagree (AFFC is my favorite of all five), but that's how most people see it Clash was prob my favorite because of Tyrion, but Dance was super awesome imo. Feast wasnt bad either. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1094 Posts
I think I might be the only one who actually enjoyed the Brienne journey, but I really wanted to know what she would find because we knew it wasn't Sansa or Arya. I think I just enjoyed the world building although I was getting sick of Meereen and Daenarys's complete inability to resolve her issues... but maybe that's the point. Some issues are intractable and it is the endless struggle of governments of all kinds around the world. I'm curious to see how she will finally end her time in Meereen and get to Westeros because she has to go there eventually, right? So every minute spent in Meereen is a minute not spent doing what she's meant to do. Overall, I did enjoy them though and the ignoring of the world building in the show is confusing the show watchers again as seen in the other thread. Without the buildup of the Sparrows from around the continent, they don't make sense. With the buildup, they make plenty of sense. | ||
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Spaylz
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To each their own. Some will hate AFFC/ADWD, others will love it. The debate has been had. I'm actually hyped now! I really, really want to see Euron. Victarion would be nice too. Hope we get both. edit: my bad. ADWD had Cersei as a POV. AFFC had Jaime. And that is why I loved AFFC. Because I love Jaime. Best character ever. I may be gay for NCW, even though his trip to Dorne has severely damaged his character. | ||
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helpman176
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Untangling the Meereenese Knot Part I | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On May 27 2015 23:09 Spaylz wrote: I liked AFFC and ADWD. They were good books. AFFC is interesting character-wise, especially due to Cersei's descent into madness. To each their own. Some will hate AFFC/ADWD, others will love it. The debate has been had. I'm actually hyped now! I really, really want to see Euron. Victarion would be nice too. Hope we get both. edit: my bad. ADWD had Cersei as a POV. AFFC had Jaime. And that is why I loved AFFC. Because I love Jaime. Best character ever. I may be gay for NCW, even though his trip to Dorne has severely damaged his character. AFFC had Cersei as POV too, i also like Jaime a great deal and his AFFC chapters were amazing imo. I think AFFC is thematically really strong, it's kinda slow, but there is much going on in the character development area. My ranking would be AFFC ASOS ADWD ACOK AGOT That doesn't mean that GoT was bad by any means though, still a very solid book, but GRRM's real strength wasn't really shown in it imo. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
On May 26 2015 04:39 ObeseHydra wrote: The Tyene/Bron scene was pure nonsense. I wonder what they were thinking when they wrote the dornish part of the show, because it's really painfull to watch. But, overall, a good episode. They were thinking about how to get some more fights and boobs into the show  . | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On May 27 2015 23:56 Musicus wrote: They were thinking about how to get some more fights and boobs into the show .Yeah it really comes down to that. Which is a shame cause the Dorne storyline in the books might have been slow, but it had interesting themes and imo also characters. But yeah whatever -.- So we might get Euron next season, who do you guys want to see playing him? | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 27 2015 23:56 Musicus wrote: They were thinking about how to get some more fights and boobs into the show .So they could have shown the Iron Islands, it has both (with salt wives). Or the siege of Meereen and skirmishes between advancing armies and Dany's mercenaries. And more fighting in the streets vs Sons of Harpy. Or the Iron Islands pillaging the coast. So much time was wasted on invented Sansa storytelling just so they can piss off the unsullied with the rape scenes. If they used the fake Arya I bet nobody would care. And Ramsey got so much time on screen, fuck that. We should have got Manderlay and the Pie instead. They could have shown UnCat and the Brotherhood killing Freys, that would have brought the cheers from the unsullied. Only good inventions was more Bronn time and Queen of Thorns back. And probably getting Jon out of Castle Black. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1094 Posts
On May 27 2015 23:22 helpman176 wrote: This has probably been posted here before, but if you are not convinced of book 4 and 5, this should help. Untangling the Meereenese Knot Part I I'm not a hater of Meereen. If it was its own story, it might be a good one. It might have some very clever depth to it as your link suggests or it might all be right on the surface as the TV series seems to be headed. The problem is that it all only tangentially relates to the main story and every moment in Meereen is keeping Dany from heading to Westeros, her presumed destiny. It also spent a long time with zero progression for Dany. She's not getting a more powerful army (until the very end where maybe the Khalassar joins her). She hasn't learned anything politically... everything she did turned to crap (either through bad decisions or manipulation). She's almost the exact same person she was when she first got the Unsullied, except maybe she's hardened a little bit. Then contrast it with Arya, another character on the wrong continent. She's leveling up. She's becoming a faceless man and everyone presumes that she will head back to Westeros and take her revenge when she is done with her training (or likely even before the training is finished). If instead she spend the entirety of book 6 going around Braavos and Quarth and killing a bunch of guys we don't know as her missions as a faceless man, then it would receive the same complaints as Meereen does. It may be a great, enticing story, but it wouldn't connect back to the story we care about and that would be annoying. So whether or not the Meereen story has merits on its own, it has little connection to the rest of the series and it was getting tiresome. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On May 28 2015 00:48 RenSC2 wrote: The problem is that it all only tangentially relates to the main story and every moment in Meereen is keeping Dany from heading to Westeros, her presumed destiny. It also spent a long time with zero progression for Dany. She's not getting a more powerful army (until the very end where maybe the Khalassar joins her). She hasn't learned anything politically... everything she did turned to crap (either through bad decisions or manipulation). She's almost the exact same person she was when she first got the Unsullied, except maybe she's hardened a little bit. . What are you talking about? She learned to control her grown Dragon, that is worth more than any army LOL. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1094 Posts
On May 28 2015 01:05 -Archangel- wrote: What are you talking about? She learned to control her grown Dragon, that is worth more than any army LOL. Except she had control of all three dragons before she went to Meereen. It is in Meereen that she loses control of them and locks up two while the third flees. At the end, she may have regained some control over one of them. That remains to be seen. We know that the dragon will protect her, but we don't actually know that she can control it. She also has no control over the other two dragons whereas they used to be much more obedient before Meereen. | ||
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