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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On February 02 2015 09:49 SixStrings wrote: No of course she's not fine with that. She's in an unpleasant, unfamiliar situation. She's under implied threat of death by her brother, she's physically exhausted from riding all day and she'd probably prefer to get some rest during the night. That being said, just because Drogo isn't being sensitive, doesn't mean he's raping her. It's implied during her wedding night that she just has to say no and he would leave her be. But calling someone a rapist, just because he has sex with his wife and doesn't know that she doesn't want to, is pretty harsh. No, it isn't harsh, and that's actually the definition of rape, particularly in the relationship that Dany was in with Drogo (one in which he holds all the power). | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On February 03 2015 14:21 Stratos_speAr wrote: No, it isn't harsh, and that's actually the definition of rape, particularly in the relationship that Dany was in with Drogo (one in which he holds all the power). Don't be daft, it's only rape when ugly people do it. But seriously, by that definition, all men are rapists and most women are, too. As if your girlfriend has never slept with you even though she didn't feel like it just to make you happy... Just stop belittling the horror or real rapes by calling it rape whenever something vaguely unpleasant happens to a girl. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5811 Posts
On February 03 2015 21:00 Salteador Neo wrote: Pretty sure SixStrings knows that what is described in the book is rape and is just baiting people into arguing just because... too much free time? Did something similar for quite a long time in the dating thread iirc. Judging fro the dating thread I'm inclined to believe he actually means what he says. T___T | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On February 03 2015 13:39 hzflank wrote: Hooded Woman. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3866862/?ref_=ttep_ep10 Huge find, but I wouldn't be surprised if they troll the book readers and just put her in a flashback or something. But given that it's the season finale, one can hope for a proper reveal. Better late than never. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On February 04 2015 00:32 maybenexttime wrote: Judging fro the dating thread I'm inclined to believe he actually means what he says. T___T Oh no, I'm heartbroken. Thank god the criminal justice system agrees with me and not you, otherwise there'd be more men in prison than there are white knights on TL. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
edit: That's not to say that she didn't grow to love him or that it wasn't consentual later, but the first (few) instance(s) were 100% rape and you know it. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
He always took her from begind, Dothraki fashion, for which Dany was grateful; that way her lord husband could not see the tears that wet her face, and she could use her pillow to muffle her cries of pain. He didn't know he was hurting her, he didn't know that she was unwilling, he had no reason to suspect otherwise, given her enthusiastic consent during the wedding night, and he would have stopped had he known. If that is really rape in your guys' eyes, I would appear we have very different positions here. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
None of you will change their mind. There is literally no progress being made as you keep discussing. It's probably better if you just drop it and not bring it up again. Pretty big waste of time, if you ask me. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On February 04 2015 03:11 SixStrings wrote: He didn't know he was hurting her, he didn't know that she was unwilling, he had no reason to suspect otherwise, given her enthusiastic consent during the wedding night, and he would have stopped had he known. Okay, you've finally convinced me that you're just a troll. So, moving on: I really don't believe the imdb entries are very accurate, but there's still a small sliver of hope left for me that we'll see Lady Stoneheart again. Eventually. I want to believe! | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On February 04 2015 03:34 Conti wrote: So, moving on: I really don't believe the imdb entries are very accurate, but there's still a small sliver of hope left for me that we'll see Lady Stoneheart again. Eventually. I want to believe! I thought she made a couple pretty direct statements to the effect of being done with the show, but that might have been intentional misdirection. Seems odd to me for them to bother with that though. It is a lot of hiding for something that isn't a spoiler for half the audience. Unless they wanted to go meta and really surprise everyone, but then they'd have had to really keep it hooded. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12463 Posts
The second is, we have to assume Benioff and Weiss know what happens to Jon at the end of book 5. If they really chose to cut the resurrection of Catelyn out of the show, I highly doubt that Jon is getting resurrected in the books. It wouldn't make sense to cut that if you're going to have the same thing happen next season and not cut it... | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On February 04 2015 11:54 Nebuchad wrote: The first thing I'll say is, it doesn't make sense to introduce Beric's capacity to be resurrected if you're not going to do Stoneheart. Beric in the book serves as the tool that brings Catelyn back. Maybe in the show he has a different purpose afterwards (like doing what Stoneheart was doing or whatever), but in that case the resurrection part of his character is useless. The second is, we have to assume Benioff and Weiss know what happens to Jon at the end of book 5. If they really chose to cut the resurrection of Catelyn out of the show, I highly doubt that Jon is getting resurrected in the books. It wouldn't make sense to cut that if you're going to have the same thing happen next season and not cut it... It makes sense if one character will be important for the plot and other won't. Being resurrected may very well be important for Jon's character but not for Cat, from what we know so far. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13996 Posts
On February 03 2015 13:39 hzflank wrote: Hooded Woman. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3866862/?ref_=ttep_ep10 imdb can be worse than wikipedia at times, but it would be pretty cool if this happened, although at this point she would be somewhat irrelevant unless they want to change back to jaime's book arc, which contradicts their original reason for not having her in the finale last year idk | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13996 Posts
On February 04 2015 11:54 Nebuchad wrote: The first thing I'll say is, it doesn't make sense to introduce Beric's capacity to be resurrected if you're not going to do Stoneheart. Beric in the book serves as the tool that brings Catelyn back. Maybe in the show he has a different purpose afterwards (like doing what Stoneheart was doing or whatever), but in that case the resurrection part of his character is useless. The second is, we have to assume Benioff and Weiss know what happens to Jon at the end of book 5. If they really chose to cut the resurrection of Catelyn out of the show, I highly doubt that Jon is getting resurrected in the books. It wouldn't make sense to cut that if you're going to have the same thing happen next season and not cut it... GRRM told them what's going to happen they know | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13996 Posts
On February 04 2015 15:42 sung_moon wrote: Just curious, anybody here play the Telltale game? i saw a playthrough of it...it seems pretty good | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On February 04 2015 15:42 sung_moon wrote: Just curious, anybody here play the Telltale game? I played through Episode 1 and it was pretty nice. I haven't played through the newly released Episode 2 though. | ||
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