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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
January 30 2015 17:20 GMT
#11441
In other news, TWOW will not come out this year. Shocking, I know, but I'm still a bit sad.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
January 30 2015 17:23 GMT
#11442
Yeah, I saw that a while ago.

I was hopeful, but oh well..

I think that if he doesn't get the novel out in 2016, people are going to be really annoyed though. I know I will be.
I like words.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 18:00:48
January 30 2015 18:00 GMT
#11443
the novel comes out after the TV show ended is my bet
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 30 2015 18:06 GMT
#11444
It's never going to come Martins ultimate plot twist to break our hearts
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 30 2015 19:34 GMT
#11445
Couldn't really get much from the trailer. they could very well remove Aegon all together or introduce him later.

Quite curious to whom Olenna was talking to, as well as the scene with Sansa/LF. The background looks like they could be in the North?

Pretty sure Bran is going to be AFK this entire season.
Forever Young
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
January 30 2015 19:52 GMT
#11446
Started watching the show, because my current liaison wanted to see it.

I really like the nuggets they throw in for the book-readers so far, like the story Cersey tells Catelyn, aber her own first boy, who had black hair and died in infancy.

Show watchers will take that as Cersey lying, and book readers will know she's sharing half of a horrible secret.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
January 30 2015 19:55 GMT
#11447
On January 31 2015 04:34 sung_moon wrote:
Couldn't really get much from the trailer. they could very well remove Aegon all together or introduce him later.

Quite curious to whom Olenna was talking to, as well as the scene with Sansa/LF. The background looks like they could be in the North?

Pretty sure Bran is going to be AFK this entire season.

They've confirmed already that Bran/Hodor will not appear at all this season. I kinda like it. It makes for less boring "Bran talks to guy sitting in tree"-scenes, it gives the viewers (and, let's face it, us book readers, too) quite a surprise when they see him again being quite powerful, and it makes it far more believable when Bran suddenly looks like an adult even though barely any time has passed.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 20:47:19
January 30 2015 20:45 GMT
#11448
On January 31 2015 04:34 sung_moon wrote:
Couldn't really get much from the trailer. they could very well remove Aegon all together or introduce him later.

Quite curious to whom Olenna was talking to, as well as the scene with Sansa/LF. The background looks like they could be in the North?

Pretty sure Bran is going to be AFK this entire season.


The simple version is that Faegon won't be in the show. He carries a lot of background baggage with him, and considering they went as far as to cut the entire Iron Islands arc it doesn't seem like they would invest the time building that up. I'm no longer willing to draw any confident speculations about the plot of the books based on that likelyhood. (arrogant and mediocre confidence stance: He is faegon and will amount to little anyway)

Olenna was probably talking to Margaery. She keeps that kind of straight talk to her family. To an "not us" (an enemy, to borrow from Cersei) that statement either admits weakness or is a threat depending on the context, and that isn't her thing either way.

Agreed on the question of where the hell Sansa and LF are. To make up a semi wild guess, they might be merging LF into Manderly a bit and taking Sansa along for some of the North vs. Boltons stuff.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
January 30 2015 23:13 GMT
#11449
On January 31 2015 05:45 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 04:34 sung_moon wrote:
Couldn't really get much from the trailer. they could very well remove Aegon all together or introduce him later.

Quite curious to whom Olenna was talking to, as well as the scene with Sansa/LF. The background looks like they could be in the North?

Pretty sure Bran is going to be AFK this entire season.


The simple version is that Faegon won't be in the show. He carries a lot of background baggage with him, and considering they went as far as to cut the entire Iron Islands arc it doesn't seem like they would invest the time building that up. I'm no longer willing to draw any confident speculations about the plot of the books based on that likelyhood. (arrogant and mediocre confidence stance: He is faegon and will amount to little anyway)

Olenna was probably talking to Margaery. She keeps that kind of straight talk to her family. To an "not us" (an enemy, to borrow from Cersei) that statement either admits weakness or is a threat depending on the context, and that isn't her thing either way.

Agreed on the question of where the hell Sansa and LF are. To make up a semi wild guess, they might be merging LF into Manderly a bit and taking Sansa along for some of the North vs. Boltons stuff.

I could see that being the case, Benioff and Weiss have mentioned they will continue to alter the books, they even adding a new character just to get the badassness of Mr. Eko on the show. Yet they not putting Ariana nor the Griffs?

people calling GRRM evil for WoW delay

I called Benioff and Weiss evil for that crap (although having Mr. Eko in season 5 makes this the greatest show of all time)
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
January 30 2015 23:17 GMT
#11450
On January 31 2015 04:34 sung_moon wrote:
Couldn't really get much from the trailer. they could very well remove Aegon all together or introduce him later.

Quite curious to whom Olenna was talking to, as well as the scene with Sansa/LF. The background looks like they could be in the North?

Pretty sure Bran is going to be AFK this entire season.

they have all but confirmed Griff Young Griff and Arianne won't appear, but hey maybe they will surprise us, really hoping to see those three, and how varys will work, will he just replace Illyrio or have a new role altogether
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
January 30 2015 23:21 GMT
#11451
On January 30 2015 19:51 Spaylz wrote:
S5 trailer:



Posted in the TV thread, but figured it's pretty discussion worthy here too.

What piqued my interest the most is Varys' line: "Who said anything about a 'him'?". Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he supposed to be a supporter of (f)Aegon? Why would he align himself with Daenerys in the show?

More likely though, it's just a line they cherry-picked to make it look ambiguous.

Trailer looks good otherwise. Waiting for a HD/real one to judge a little better.

ya, it seems that griff isnt in the show so varys will prob go for Dany, but that line tells me that if R+L=J is legit, Varys doesn't know, regardless we will know for sure when WoW comes out, whenever that is
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-30 23:43:23
January 30 2015 23:43 GMT
#11452
On the note of R+L=J, I'm wondering how/if the show will play that out. I'm curious as to if the show watchers even care who Jon's mother/parents are at this point.

I'm really hoping they build it up at least (if his true parentage plays any significance), and not just like an instant 1 episode reveal or something.
Forever Young
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
January 30 2015 23:57 GMT
#11453
HD version from HBO:


Aero and Jaime sharing a scene at 1:02 (it is also the video thumbnail, see famous longaxe and the guy off' Jaime's arm holding it) catches my attention on rewatch. It also looked somewhat like that might have been the back of Jaime's head when [Ty or Nym? - role merged with cut Arianne] was playing seductress in the next shot. A Jaime role merge with Oakheart leads to interesting possibilities.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 13:44:14
January 31 2015 05:45 GMT
#11454
On January 31 2015 08:13 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 05:45 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On January 31 2015 04:34 sung_moon wrote:
Couldn't really get much from the trailer. they could very well remove Aegon all together or introduce him later.

Quite curious to whom Olenna was talking to, as well as the scene with Sansa/LF. The background looks like they could be in the North?

Pretty sure Bran is going to be AFK this entire season.


The simple version is that Faegon won't be in the show. He carries a lot of background baggage with him, and considering they went as far as to cut the entire Iron Islands arc it doesn't seem like they would invest the time building that up. I'm no longer willing to draw any confident speculations about the plot of the books based on that likelyhood. (arrogant and mediocre confidence stance: He is faegon and will amount to little anyway)

Olenna was probably talking to Margaery. She keeps that kind of straight talk to her family. To an "not us" (an enemy, to borrow from Cersei) that statement either admits weakness or is a threat depending on the context, and that isn't her thing either way.

Agreed on the question of where the hell Sansa and LF are. To make up a semi wild guess, they might be merging LF into Manderly a bit and taking Sansa along for some of the North vs. Boltons stuff.

I could see that being the case, Benioff and Weiss have mentioned they will continue to alter the books, they even adding a new character just to get the badassness of Mr. Eko on the show. Yet they not putting Ariana nor the Griffs?

people calling GRRM evil for WoW delay

I called Benioff and Weiss evil for that crap (although having Mr. Eko in season 5 makes this the greatest show of all time)


Oh, please!

He's not Mr. Eko, he's Simon Adebisi. About four times as badass.

More seriously, where did you guys get that Aero and Jaime have a scene together? I just watched the trailer twice, and it eluded me.
I like words.
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
January 31 2015 13:36 GMT
#11455
Yah, I don't think I'm watching GoT this season.
it all matters
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4633 Posts
January 31 2015 14:00 GMT
#11456
On January 31 2015 22:36 molecu wrote:
Yah, I don't think I'm watching GoT this season.

The one post that made a difference!
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9330 Posts
January 31 2015 14:32 GMT
#11457
Do we know anything about their budget for the upcoming season? I want to see Volantis and bigger dragons but if they're going to use some shitty CGI again I'll be very disappointed.
You're now breathing manually
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
January 31 2015 14:41 GMT
#11458
On January 31 2015 23:32 Sent. wrote:
Do we know anything about their budget for the upcoming season? I want to see Volantis and bigger dragons but if they're going to use some shitty CGI again I'll be very disappointed.

Last I heard their project of breeding live dragons for the show has not been successful so far.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
January 31 2015 14:43 GMT
#11459
On January 31 2015 23:32 Sent. wrote:
Do we know anything about their budget for the upcoming season? I want to see Volantis and bigger dragons but if they're going to use some shitty CGI again I'll be very disappointed.


Ehh.. It's not always bad. I definitely recall a few scenes where the CGI was down right awful. Mostly thinking about the White Walker grabbing and shattering Sam's sword, and also when Lysa is thrown by the Moon Door.

I'd like to think they've been managing the budget all these seasons because they know the later seasons will have a lot of CGI. We'll see how they do this season.
I like words.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
January 31 2015 16:25 GMT
#11460
or maybe you get hung up over pointless stuff.
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