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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
June 20 2011 14:47 GMT
#601
I have a guestion. Will dragons speak English ?
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
June 20 2011 14:54 GMT
#602
On June 20 2011 23:47 NIIINO wrote:
I have a guestion. Will dragons speak English ?


I got a question back at you. Why would dragons speak at all?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 15:04:26
June 20 2011 15:03 GMT
#603
On June 20 2011 18:29 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 17:51 Zelniq wrote:
On June 20 2011 15:38 visual77 wrote:
I have two very related questions...

First, I kept hearing that a character dies in season 1 that did not die in book 1. Any idea who that is? Was that completely untrue? I've read the entire series, and every death in season 1 was one that seemed either familiar or irrelevant.

Second, Zelniq mentioned a few pages back that something would happen that would surprise even the readers of the books. What was that? I don't remember any significant deviations from the book in this last episode.

to answer both of your questions: one of the producers mentioned in an interview that the before the season ended, a character that dies in the 3rd book will die in S1. well I guess he was speaking about Marillion the singer, I believe he dies in book 3, and don't really remember his significance so whatever


He's the one that confessed to killing Lysa after being tortured.. so they basically have to rewrite that stuff quite significantly later on. I don't really understand why they felt he had to go this early...

Because they wanted to kill a singer in ep10 and didn't want to pay another actor. And this one already appeared in the show so some of the audience would recognize him. Killing a character that the audience knows has a bigger impact then killing a random face that just appeared.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 15:08:51
June 20 2011 15:06 GMT
#604
Just to note, when Arya was introduced to the brothers headed for the wall, we got a brief glimpse at three characters who presumably are Biter, Rorge and Jaqen.

[image loading]

I assume the bald one is Biter though he was described as being monstrously fat in the books. The main one (who I think looks like a young Liam Neeson) is likely Rorge (described in the books as missing a nose. The third figure is unseen underneath the cloak (meaning likely the role hasn't been cast yet, hinting at a big name hopeful) and I would surmise is Jaqen H'ghar.

Thought I'd share

edit: another shot with a different angle

[image loading]
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
June 20 2011 15:08 GMT
#605
LOL the Biter guy looks just like a lighter version of the black guy portrait in SC2.
wat
winter017
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 16:13:10
June 20 2011 15:51 GMT
#606
On June 20 2011 23:31 mucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:14 Erectum wrote:
On June 20 2011 17:40 dormer wrote:
On June 20 2011 17:35 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 20 2011 16:50 Erectum wrote:
Spoiler beyond book 4 ( not kidding )

+ Show Spoiler +
Jon is Rhaegar and Lyanna children, he is the last dragon

And Daenerys nephew


god I hate this stupid Rhaegar Lyanna conspiracy bullshit. You have no clue whose kid he is so dont make up some random stuff just because you want it to be that way. Unless GRRM explicitely
tells us otherwise Jon is the bastard son of Eddard Stark. End of story.


Actually the arguments in favor of that "conspiracy bullshit" are actually pretty good, but it's still ambiguous, so there's no reason for either of you to get so preachy about it. Wait and see what happens -- I totally didn't pick up on it when I read the books, but the possibility of it being true is really intriguing imo.


I don't want specilly this to happen ...

But as doomer said the arguments are pretty goods and we clearly know that Jon/Dnaerys will play a big part until the end of the story


You don't "clearly know" anything about how the story is going to go. This isn't stereotypical predictable fantasy where the central characters always pull though. GRRM could kill off both Dany and Jon in the next book and it wouldn't be out of place at all in this series. I really don't get why people predict this series to follow fantasy cliches moving forward when it has hardly conformed to them at all up to this point.



bleh if he killed jon and dany i'd stop reading . You can only kill your protagonists off so many times before you lose your audience. after Robb and Cat died, I'm actually at a loss for who to care about (this isn't to say I don't care about Jon or Dany - they are just so far removed from the rest of the events, more so Dany, its hard to really get into their story lines). Although I haven't started A Feast for Crows yet so we'll see how it goes but as I've continued to read despite its lets break the mold approach its starting to just be bad writing. At this point I feel like I'd be better served by reading European History
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 19:31:09
June 20 2011 19:30 GMT
#607
I almost quit reading when he killed Ned, but I asked a friend that lent me the books if Starks get revenge on Lannisters in books 2 and 3 (there was no book 4 out at the time) and she said "Yes" :D
I believed her and kept reading. They didn't but the damn story was so addicting I couldn't stop. Even after the Red Wedding where I was shaking because of rage and sadness. Good thing the book was not mine so I didn't try to destroy it like some people :D
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
June 20 2011 19:31 GMT
#608
haha you got trolled hard
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 20 2011 19:32 GMT
#609
No, I was kept from throwing away the best fantasy series that this world has ever seen
Liebig
Profile Joined August 2010
France738 Posts
June 20 2011 20:02 GMT
#610
Hmm, can someone remind me what happens to Robert' son ? :o I remember he is going to work for the Lannister/Bolton at Harrenhal, but i don't seem to remember what happens to him afterwards :o
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
June 20 2011 21:38 GMT
#611
On June 20 2011 18:15 NearlyDead wrote:
Really excited to see who they get to play Davos in season 2, he is my favorite character in the series by far, as he seems to be one of the few sympathetic characters that manages to live. It's only fitting though, as an old smuggler he will has to be harder to kill than a cockroach. I just wish someone would get rid of Stannis so he could come over and help someone i don't despise so much.


Is it common knowledge that he didn't die then?
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4938 Posts
June 20 2011 21:44 GMT
#612
On June 21 2011 06:38 maliceee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 18:15 NearlyDead wrote:
Really excited to see who they get to play Davos in season 2, he is my favorite character in the series by far, as he seems to be one of the few sympathetic characters that manages to live. It's only fitting though, as an old smuggler he will has to be harder to kill than a cockroach. I just wish someone would get rid of Stannis so he could come over and help someone i don't despise so much.


Is it common knowledge that he didn't die then?


He's promised to have first person view chapters in the 5th book (GRRM himself made a list of the FPV chapters on his website).

However, as the first half of ADwD is set parallel to AFfC, it could still mean he dies. We'll just have to wait and see.
Complete the cycle!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4938 Posts
June 20 2011 21:46 GMT
#613
On June 21 2011 05:02 Liebig wrote:
Hmm, can someone remind me what happens to Robert' son ? :o I remember he is going to work for the Lannister/Bolton at Harrenhal, but i don't seem to remember what happens to him afterwards :o


He ends up joining Beric Dondarrion's brotherhood of outlaws and stays with them even after a resurrected Catelyn takes over them. He was last seen at the Crossroad's Inn (I think? I'm not 100% sure about this, but it's certainly an inn), when / where Brienne fought and killed Rorge, and got wounded by Biter.

I think that's where we see him last in the 4th book.
Complete the cycle!
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
June 21 2011 02:08 GMT
#614
damn hearing Theon proclaims his loyalty to Robb, all that bromance, I think I'm going to have a hard time hating him
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
June 21 2011 02:19 GMT
#615
On June 21 2011 11:08 stork4ever wrote:
damn hearing Theon proclaims his loyalty to Robb, all that bromance, I think I'm going to have a hard time hating him


My mind stopped reading after "hard" and added "on" >< DAMN YOU INTERNET!

On topic: Love the series but does anyone else find the constant cliffhangers annoying? Like include them every now and then but not every climax needs to wait 100s of pages to be resolved.
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
June 21 2011 02:38 GMT
#616
Red Wedding killed me. I couldn't read the books for another year.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
SpectralFremen
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia386 Posts
June 21 2011 05:11 GMT
#617
Guys I dont know if this has been posted, but i think its really awesome!
"And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere"
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 07:40:35
June 21 2011 07:40 GMT
#618
The Red Wedding shocked the hell out of me, but not to the point where I wanted to stop reading. I'm actually legitimately concerned that someone like Arya is going to die in the next book. I don't think that, as however above said, he would refrain from killing a main character just to maintain interest. I'd still read the books.

After Oberyn died, I feel nothing
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Damian
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany335 Posts
June 21 2011 14:07 GMT
#619
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2011 14:11 SpectralFremen wrote:
Guys I dont know if this has been posted, but i think its really awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0xu7P-zzsk



To sum it up: Don't mess with Tywin ! Too bad, that such a great player of the game of thrones is gone
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
June 21 2011 14:13 GMT
#620
On June 21 2011 16:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
The Red Wedding shocked the hell out of me, but not to the point where I wanted to stop reading. I'm actually legitimately concerned that someone like Arya is going to die in the next book. I don't think that, as however above said, he would refrain from killing a main character just to maintain interest. I'd still read the books.

After Oberyn died, I feel nothing

The thing is, Ned's death had a point to further the story along. If he kills off a main character like Arya or Brienne, or at this point even someone like Tyrion, it won't affect the story at all because they aren't currently major players with respect to power, so what's the point? If he were to kill off Jon Snow, Cersei, or any actual leader, I think it would have a much greater effect
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