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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 08 2016 22:25 GMT
#9821
Because if he wants to milk them for maximum profit, they need a leader to work efficiently.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
April 08 2016 22:28 GMT
#9822
On April 09 2016 07:09 Garbels wrote:
I don't understand why he would not kill the leader by default.


probably thought he could make the leader his bitch like he did with the hilltop

show their people how powerless their leader is in front of him as he kills one of their valued members at his whim
TL/SKT
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 08 2016 22:48 GMT
#9823
On April 09 2016 07:09 Garbels wrote:
I don't understand why he would not kill the leader by default.

He thinks it would make rick a martyr. This way he breaks rick
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
April 08 2016 23:07 GMT
#9824
I could agree if it was some random group like the hilltops. But here you already know that the leader is highly aggressive and capable so anyone preceding him is probably easier to handle.
Seems like a lot of risk to free someone who just killed dozens of your men and thereby giving him another chance.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
April 09 2016 07:17 GMT
#9825
i'd love to see the govenor vs neagan
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19149 Posts
April 09 2016 13:31 GMT
#9826
On April 09 2016 06:08 Enox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2016 21:00 oGoZenob wrote:
On April 07 2016 18:32 Koivusto wrote:
During the last scene:

Negan: I want all your shit
...couple of lines later...
Negan: I want half your shit

Haggling 101?

yea i caught that too ^^ Maybe if they stalled him a little longer he'd be fine with 2% and a diet coke

I'm pretty sure he says: "and what I want is have your shit", not half. not sure if that's grammatically correct, but it makes more sense

He says "half". "What I want is have your shit" makes absolutely no sense in English. It would be "what I want is to have your shit", although most people would just say "what I want is your shit"
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23437 Posts
April 09 2016 17:18 GMT
#9827
On April 09 2016 22:31 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 06:08 Enox wrote:
On April 07 2016 21:00 oGoZenob wrote:
On April 07 2016 18:32 Koivusto wrote:
During the last scene:

Negan: I want all your shit
...couple of lines later...
Negan: I want half your shit

Haggling 101?

yea i caught that too ^^ Maybe if they stalled him a little longer he'd be fine with 2% and a diet coke

I'm pretty sure he says: "and what I want is have your shit", not half. not sure if that's grammatically correct, but it makes more sense

He says "half". "What I want is have your shit" makes absolutely no sense in English. It would be "what I want is to have your shit", although most people would just say "what I want is your shit"


Worst scat pr0n dialogue ever...Anyway talk about Negan makes me wonder...

Poll: Do you watch Talking Dead?

No (10)
 
40%

No, it's a dumb show (6)
 
24%

What is Talking Dead? (5)
 
20%

Yes! (3)
 
12%

Yes, I have to or I don't understand what happened (1)
 
4%

25 total votes

Your vote: Do you watch Talking Dead?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): Yes, I have to or I don't understand what happened
(Vote): No
(Vote): No, it's a dumb show
(Vote): What is Talking Dead?

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 09 2016 18:52 GMT
#9828
The Talking Dead is not a show per se more like a AMC shopping channel alongside promotion of said show.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23437 Posts
April 09 2016 19:12 GMT
#9829
On April 10 2016 03:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Talking Dead is not a show per se more like a AMC shopping channel alongside promotion of said show.


Yeah I mean it's gotten worse as far as that goes, but I think it provides a lot of insight when they have people from the show. Even if one doesn't like their thinking, they at least explain things like their reasoning for the cliff hanger.

"It's the end of the story, a new story is starting in the next season" and so on.

Basically a lot of the immediate reaction you see here is what get's discussed on Talking Dead. It's not very helpful when it's just fans, but when people from the show are on they usually shed some light on things.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18100 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-09 19:19:34
April 09 2016 19:18 GMT
#9830
On April 10 2016 04:12 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2016 03:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Talking Dead is not a show per se more like a AMC shopping channel alongside promotion of said show.


Yeah I mean it's gotten worse as far as that goes, but I think it provides a lot of insight when they have people from the show. Even if one doesn't like their thinking, they at least explain things like their reasoning for the cliff hanger.

"It's the end of the story, a new story is starting in the next season" and so on.

Basically a lot of the immediate reaction you see here is what get's discussed on Talking Dead. It's not very helpful when it's just fans, but when people from the show are on they usually shed some light on things.

Except that I don't really give a shit about their reasoning. I will judge the Walking Dead on its merit as a show all by myself. As a making of, it might have some merit, but it's not even that, really. It´s just a shitty talk show in which they try to justify the dumbest choices they make, and discuss how awesome their good ideas are. It´s mindnumbing.

And Walking Dead isn't a good enough show to merit some kind of meta discussion. It has been a long time since it was worth defending the Walking Dead as anything other than a mindless popcorn series, approximately on par with Arrow in terms of realism and depth of their ideas. It does have slightly higher production values, but given that Arrow uses about 3 very cheap sets, that is not very hard.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9629 Posts
April 11 2016 20:52 GMT
#9831
On April 09 2016 22:31 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 06:08 Enox wrote:
On April 07 2016 21:00 oGoZenob wrote:
On April 07 2016 18:32 Koivusto wrote:
During the last scene:

Negan: I want all your shit
...couple of lines later...
Negan: I want half your shit

Haggling 101?

yea i caught that too ^^ Maybe if they stalled him a little longer he'd be fine with 2% and a diet coke

I'm pretty sure he says: "and what I want is have your shit", not half. not sure if that's grammatically correct, but it makes more sense

He says "half". "What I want is have your shit" makes absolutely no sense in English. It would be "what I want is to have your shit", although most people would just say "what I want is your shit"

which is the exact same deal he had already made with the hilltop...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 11 2016 21:09 GMT
#9832
The implication is that he is now "in charge", and therefore owns everything they have (including their lives, as he demonstrated at the end). And of all of their stuff, they need to turn half of it over to Negan. It should have been worded better.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23437 Posts
April 11 2016 21:45 GMT
#9833
On April 10 2016 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 22:31 tofucake wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:08 Enox wrote:
On April 07 2016 21:00 oGoZenob wrote:
On April 07 2016 18:32 Koivusto wrote:
During the last scene:

Negan: I want all your shit
...couple of lines later...
Negan: I want half your shit

Haggling 101?

yea i caught that too ^^ Maybe if they stalled him a little longer he'd be fine with 2% and a diet coke

I'm pretty sure he says: "and what I want is have your shit", not half. not sure if that's grammatically correct, but it makes more sense

He says "half". "What I want is have your shit" makes absolutely no sense in English. It would be "what I want is to have your shit", although most people would just say "what I want is your shit"


Worst scat pr0n dialogue ever...Anyway talk about Negan makes me wonder...

Poll: Do you watch Talking Dead?

No (10)
 
40%

No, it's a dumb show (6)
 
24%

What is Talking Dead? (5)
 
20%

Yes! (3)
 
12%

Yes, I have to or I don't understand what happened (1)
 
4%

25 total votes

Your vote: Do you watch Talking Dead?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): Yes, I have to or I don't understand what happened
(Vote): No
(Vote): No, it's a dumb show
(Vote): What is Talking Dead?




This explains why every week there are questions/complaints that make no sense to people who are closely following the show (including listening to what the creators say they are trying to do).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-12 01:39:34
April 12 2016 01:35 GMT
#9834
That's because way back during Season 2 after a particular shit episode that made no sense a guest, I wanna say it was a special guest, called out then Director Glen Mazzara about the plot and dialogue making no sense especially with the character Lori. Things got awkward very fast.

Since then all questions are screened.

EDIT: Think it was Slash.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 12 2016 02:01 GMT
#9835
The creators shouldn't need shows like the Talking Dead as a crutch to explain their choices, it should be apparent just by watching the show (assuming good writing). Besides extras like that break the immersion for me, same as seeing the actors talk normally in street clothes.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23437 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-12 03:01:20
April 12 2016 02:26 GMT
#9836
I'd point out I'm not defending bad writing in general but that the answers to many peoples questions/comments are available and they don't have to always be left guessing/confused.

People can disagree on how well or poorly they tell the story they are trying to tell, the quality of the story itself, etc... But it's not as if it's a mystery.

For example Negan and the cliff hanger caused a lot of controversy, but they have their explanation. People can like it or not, but it does exist. Seems it makes more sense to at least take into consideration what they think, even if the conclusion is "they are dumb" or "it's just PR/spin".

Point taken though stealth on them not asking some of the tougher questions that occasionally pop up here regarding more significant discrepancies.

Here's a bit about the cliffhanger

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 12 2016 03:13 GMT
#9837
As the comment said in the video if it was the end of a particular story and the end of a chapter then why show a ending like that. Just end in a proper cliffhanger with JDM walking out of the trailer and saying "Hey, I'm Negn"

boom end credits.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 12 2016 03:22 GMT
#9838
Considering the build up and hype Negan has been getting, having Negan come out and not actually do anything would have pissed a ton of people off too.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23437 Posts
April 12 2016 03:34 GMT
#9839
On April 12 2016 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
As the comment said in the video if it was the end of a particular story and the end of a chapter then why show a ending like that. Just end in a proper cliffhanger with JDM walking out of the trailer and saying "Hey, I'm Negn"

boom end credits.


I don't think most people would be much less upset about that ending, but I see your point. In the context of their explanation, I would imagine they would say something along the lines that the whole killing someone needed to be known.

I was just hoping to have it be part of the discussion when it fits though, so I'm not going defend them beyond that.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
April 12 2016 04:46 GMT
#9840
Watching a tv show about a tv series is a waste of time for me, in general if the series is good enough I shouldnt watch explanations about good and bad writing, but enjoying the series.
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