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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
February 11 2013 18:47 GMT
#5901
writing seems to focus on unneeded drama that goes full circle and neglecting/canceling itself for the story to continue.
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epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 11 2013 18:50 GMT
#5902
When next episode?
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
February 11 2013 19:04 GMT
#5903
Most boring episode ever, nothing happened.

This entire season has been going kinda slow imo and people want to tout it as so amazing compared to season 2, even season 2 was not this slow. Season 3 is like dbz slow. I waited the whole goddamn episode for them to get back to the prison, they finally did, and then nothing really happened.
Shellebelles
Profile Joined December 2012
51 Posts
February 11 2013 19:15 GMT
#5904
Even in death Lori is annoying.....

Really not liking where season 3 is going after the episode, it's more drama and less zombies.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 19:17:59
February 11 2013 19:15 GMT
#5905
On February 12 2013 03:47 jinorazi wrote:
writing seems to focus on unneeded drama that goes full circle and neglecting/canceling itself for the story to continue.


yeah, ghost lori and glenn's meltdown are pretty egregious examples of this in their own way.

if we remove ghost lori from the plot and downplay rick's guilt complex - or see it written out another, less obnoxious way later...the phone was subtle compared to ghost lori - suddenly tyreese and their group are totally cool to hang at the prison and most of the tension from the episode disappears. more importantly, it removes utterly unnecessary roadblocks from the main plot; put another way, rick has to be sane enough at the end of this season to face off with the governor. therefore, this is a pointless cliffhanger and time-wasting at its finest, because in one or two episodes he'll be fine. glenn's issues are derived from the same need for some sort of narrative tension, but it ultimately goes nowhere because rick can't just go back and shoot the governor. it rebounds back upon glenn's character and makes him seem like a whiner with control issues even though being angry about horrible things happening to someone you love should be an empathetic thing to watch! I get that this show is inherently bleak, but watching shitlords howl at each other using poorly articulated arguments and logic is the worst thing about it by far and why the "talky" parts inevitably bog down in cliche and tedium. the tragic part is that I'm absolutely sure a way must exist to make this character ennui relatable, but the show has never truly addressed it other than andrea's suicidal tendencies in season 1 (and beth in season 2, but honestly that subplot was godawful), and that's the extreme end of that position and runs counter to any sort of reasonable discussion about what you lose as a human being when society collapses. I'm not saying I want a debate club argument with optimism on one side and cynicism on the other, but, uh, this show being about something certainly would help it along.

I'm still watching this next weekend, but my expectations are dialed down severely.
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
February 11 2013 19:16 GMT
#5906
I loved the episode.
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
February 11 2013 19:42 GMT
#5907
that woodberry town acting was cringeworthy.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
February 11 2013 19:51 GMT
#5908
On February 12 2013 03:50 epoc wrote:
When next episode?


Same day next week?
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
February 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#5909
Such a good episode ruined for me with that ending.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
February 11 2013 21:23 GMT
#5910
I thought Lori's death would rid us of some female stupidity. But no! Not only is Andrea seemingly striving to beat Lori's world record, even Lori herself returns as a motherfucking ghost! Not that that's new, I just had forgotten how annoying The Walking Dead's women are during the mid-season break. I also can't stand Michonne, who is too "badass" to open her mouth and answer even the most mundane of questions.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
February 11 2013 21:33 GMT
#5911
the new big black guy seem nice and all but i have a feeling his going to go dorner on them.
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SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
February 11 2013 21:37 GMT
#5912
i read the comics in the half season break and somehow im just over that whole governor story line now. + Show Spoiler +
I wish the story just moves on, because its gonna get way better. so i guess this season is going to be rough to watch to the end for me.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19264 Posts
February 11 2013 21:50 GMT
#5913
On February 12 2013 06:23 Scorch wrote:
I thought Lori's death would rid us of some female stupidity. But no! Not only is Andrea seemingly striving to beat Lori's world record, even Lori herself returns as a motherfucking ghost! Not that that's new, I just had forgotten how annoying The Walking Dead's women are during the mid-season break. I also can't stand Michonne, who is too "badass" to open her mouth and answer even the most mundane of questions.

She's a hallucination. We are seeing Rick lose it.
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simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
February 11 2013 22:09 GMT
#5914
On February 12 2013 06:50 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 06:23 Scorch wrote:
I thought Lori's death would rid us of some female stupidity. But no! Not only is Andrea seemingly striving to beat Lori's world record, even Lori herself returns as a motherfucking ghost! Not that that's new, I just had forgotten how annoying The Walking Dead's women are during the mid-season break. I also can't stand Michonne, who is too "badass" to open her mouth and answer even the most mundane of questions.

She's a hallucination. We are seeing Rick lose it.


are you sure it was a she... ?

actual hallucination:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
byah!
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
February 11 2013 22:19 GMT
#5915
On February 12 2013 07:09 simmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 06:50 tofucake wrote:
On February 12 2013 06:23 Scorch wrote:
I thought Lori's death would rid us of some female stupidity. But no! Not only is Andrea seemingly striving to beat Lori's world record, even Lori herself returns as a motherfucking ghost! Not that that's new, I just had forgotten how annoying The Walking Dead's women are during the mid-season break. I also can't stand Michonne, who is too "badass" to open her mouth and answer even the most mundane of questions.

She's a hallucination. We are seeing Rick lose it.


are you sure it was a she... ?

actual hallucination:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



OH SH.....
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
February 11 2013 22:32 GMT
#5916
TDAWG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

for real though, glenn and rick's breakdowns are part of their humanity being displayed, how can people complain about this drama, it's a big time part of TWD, and people claiming it's just circular or that there aren't enough zombies is just.. ugh you don't get TWD at all.
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czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:08:20
February 11 2013 23:06 GMT
#5917
OMG, I finally realized who Ty is! It's CUTTY from the WIRE!

Edit: Old news i'm sure lol
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:36:46
February 11 2013 23:33 GMT
#5918
Lori's not a ghost guys, come on... Rick is hallucinating. He's starting to lose it, he's gone off the deep end.

I was sad to see Daryl leave the group but I'm pretty damn 99% sure he's going show up at a very crucial moment later on in the season. + Show Spoiler +
COMIC BOOK SPOILER + Show Spoiler +
Just like how Andrea returns while the prison is being invaded.


Maggie, her sister, and Carol are the only females I like in the show.

I like the direction they're heading with all that drama between everyone. IMO the zombies SHOULDN'T be that scary any more, it's been around 10-11 months since the outbreak. Other survivors are what rick and his group should be hella more worried/scared about.

I think the reason why Rick sees Lori standing on the catwalk while everyone is trying to convince him to allow Tyrese to stay is because he feels like the last time he helped out people he didn't know (the convicts), it led to Lori's death...
Basically he feels responsible for her dying, and the fact that he was mad at her before she died makes it worse. And he won't lose another person (carl or baby) from helping out some randoms.

But yeah I'm loving the show right now.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 11 2013 23:38 GMT
#5919
On February 12 2013 07:32 Kazeyonoma wrote:
TDAWG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

for real though, glenn and rick's breakdowns are part of their humanity being displayed, how can people complain about this drama, it's a big time part of TWD, and people claiming it's just circular or that there aren't enough zombies is just.. ugh you don't get TWD at all.

I don't think anyone has any problem with Rick and Glen cracking under the stress, it's just that the execution in depicting this development is more suited to a day-time soap opera. The hallucination was too much in my opinion, too overt and felt forced into the last scene. We know Rick is dealing with heavy stuff and is already a little off his rocker but springing that in the last minutes of screen-time was a big "WTF" and not in the good way, because there was no focus on Rick's inner turmoil throughout the episode until that point.

Visual hallucinations can be used to great effect if done correctly. Boardwalk Empire had some great sequences in the past season where this kind of thing happens. The pacing and execution of the episode allowed me to understand the character and relate to why he was disturbed. Zombie-hallucination Lori and Rick's outrageous reaction to her did not accomplish anything for me by comparison.

I find it unpleasant when that kind of batshit insane moment is sprung on me without some build up occuring throughout the episode. It's jarring as a viewer and doesn't allow for me to relate to Rick. If there had been an auditory hallucination or two in this episode leading up to it, that scene may have been quite effective for me. Or slip in the hallucination for a split second a few times earlier in the episode and have Rick sort of shake it off before the breakdown. As is, it was just poor storytelling imo.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6668 Posts
February 12 2013 00:01 GMT
#5920
Rick and Glen's breakdown seemed okay with me. Like mentioned many times before in this thread, if you're looking for more Zombies then story/drama this is not the right show for you. TWD has always been(And always will be) More about people surviving the break out and how the groups build and interact then about the actual zombies killing them.

My only complaint from that episode was the Andrea scenes, god every time she is on screen I almost want to vomit from the pure stupidity that flows from her mouth. That speech and the acting in that scene were just beyond atrocious imo. The sooner her and Michonne die the happier I will be, Neither character adds anything to the show for me and both actresses don't seem to play their roles very well imo.
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