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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 28 2014 02:53 GMT
#821
Companions are sticking around way too long. 1 per season is great.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
December 28 2014 02:56 GMT
#822
On December 28 2014 11:53 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Companions are sticking around way too long. 1 per season is great.

Donna should have stayed forever
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9967 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 09:35:00
December 28 2014 09:30 GMT
#823
On November 11 2014 11:23 killerdog wrote:
To be honest, I felt like the last episode was basically a highlight real of everything that was wrong with a lot of this season.

+ Show Spoiler +
A great big build up, into the doctor not doing anything at all and everything sort of fixing itself around him, without any real explanation as to how. There have been a few decent episodes, (the train one was ok, and flatline was amusing just for the tiny capaldi, but there have been so many episodes this season where they arrive, find some wierd stuff is going on, run around not accomplishing anything, then it turns out everything is ok after all, and would have played out identically if the doctor had never even arrived...

I had great hopes after the first half of this finale, we had an enemy who we knew wouldn't turn out to be harmless, in interesting plot mechanic in the potential afterlife stuff, and the master back! But all we get is a random plane ride which accomplishes nothing but allowing for a funny army one liner from the doctor, and "true love" or something randomly overpowering cyberman circuitry to magically save the day. (We've already had an episode where that happens with matt smith, although at least that one was saved by not being 80% exposition...)

I guess I just enjoy the moments where the doctor goes full tennant and suddenly saves the day, and having the solution to a problem actually be developed over the episode over the "I have no idea what i'm doing but I look concerned for 40 minutes, then stuff randomly resolves itself around me in the last 5 minutes of the episode" which capaldi seems to be written as half the time

/rant


There has been some terrible writing, certainly. I've enjoyed bits of the series, its the first Dr Who series i have ever watched. I embraced the silliness of it, but the mysteries they are trying to solve are badly written. Often the only way for the Dr to interact with the mystery at all is to explain it, rather than neutralize it. Its JJ Abrams all over again. An exposition machine for interesting mysteries, instead of a vehicle for an all powerful time lord.

There were still a couple of great episodes though. The bank heist in particular was a good one IMO.

Also i get that they probably want to avoid helpless women in this day and age, but does the Doctor's companion have to be so bloody smart and capable??? I would prefer someone stupid and extremely immoral instead of the same old Clara.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
December 28 2014 10:10 GMT
#824
On December 28 2014 18:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Also i get that they probably want to avoid helpless women in this day and age, but does the Doctor's companion have to be so bloody smart and capable??? I would prefer someone stupid and extremely immoral instead of the same old Clara.


It used to be that the doctor rarely even revealed himself to people, i always thought it would take an extremely strong person to even comprehend and accept what the doctor is and what he shows them. It made it plausable that the companions he chose would be extremely capable.

Nowadays he just takes kids on school trips and rescues old biddys at christmas. Utter bullshit, bring back eccleston / tennant days.

I dont think clara is TOO capable though, she was ready to lie down and die in the xmas special just because she had the illusion of happiness, she knew she was dying and didnt give a fuck. Shes out of her depth on quite a few occasions but if you travel time and space with an immortal time lord you do need a bit of a backbone lol. Also shes been with him for a quite a while now, usually when companions first join they're bumbling idiots for a while.


On December 28 2014 11:56 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 11:53 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Companions are sticking around way too long. 1 per season is great.

Donna should have stayed forever


Lol you masochist.
Useless wet fish.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
December 28 2014 11:30 GMT
#825
I'd rather keep the companion around for a bit than have the Doctor mope about missing Rose Tyler.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
December 28 2014 16:09 GMT
#826
It was better than most of last season but I really wish they'd hire some better writers. Check out the Black Mirror xmas special, fantastic scifi and deals with time/reality manipulation in much darker ways.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 29 2014 16:03 GMT
#827
wasnt the doctor at the place where clara threw the keys in the volcano
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Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 17:39:50
December 29 2014 17:39 GMT
#828
On December 30 2014 01:03 Chexx wrote:
wasnt the doctor at the place where clara threw the keys in the volcano


Yes, but he had put a dream patch on her after she tried to put it on him so they were both still in the tardis

edit. think i misunderstood original question. May update later
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 17:57:44
December 29 2014 17:57 GMT
#829
Okay enough special. Most of the "twists" in that episode were straightforward to guess. I only missed + Show Spoiler +
that Clara being old
was fake, but I think that has more to do with my overwhelming desire to see her disappear from the show permanently.

Oh well. At least now we have another season to not find out how she + Show Spoiler +
survived jumping into the Doctor's timeline.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-30 17:49:58
December 30 2014 17:48 GMT
#830
As someone who started watching doctor who since season 7 thanks to a marathon on tv last week, I thought this season was great! Also, clara is awesome and don't get the hate for her! So happy the impossible girl is sticking around for another season!
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Coppermantis
Profile Joined June 2012
United States845 Posts
December 30 2014 20:26 GMT
#831
I don't hate Clara, I just think she's been around long enough and want to see change. One or two seasons is enough for one companion.

And the special was good. Sort of like a nonconsentual version of Inception. + Show Spoiler +
Surprisingly non-cheesy way to include Santa Claus, and it actually made sense, too. For once.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
December 30 2014 20:53 GMT
#832
Well, I mean the clara hate in general because as a new doctor who fan as of last week (had previously only seen eps here and there) I looked into more info about the series and discovered a big clara hate contingent along with moffat hate. I enjoyed the impossible girl storyline of season 7 a lot, but will admit her falling in love with danny pink out of the blue and so fast was a bit forced.

Also, loved the movie last year with all the doctors and changing gallifrey's fate and found out it was also loved/hated by fans. I may go back and watch it from season 1 since I've only seen season 7 and 8 so far, but I'm enjoying the new doctor too. He's vastly different from matt smith since he's more serious, rude and less quirky so I've often wondered how matt smith's doctor would have played it during these season 8 eps.
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Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
December 31 2014 05:37 GMT
#833
I don't hate Clara either, it just seems to me like they just ret-conned the big ending of the season finale. That was a big emotional moment in the show when the Doctor and Clara decided to lie to each other to ensure the other's perceived happiness and now it was proven pointless.

I usually don't like it when shows pull a stunt like, say, a time dilation field that makes everything that happens in the episode ultimately pointless (Star Trek has done this a lot) but I think the ending to the special that I would have liked was that the Doctor and Clara both wake up and can't remember any of it. The others couldn't remember so why can those two? (I guess it makes a little more sense about the Doctor remembering cause he's a time lord and all but why does she?) It would have given fans the chance to have one more adventure with Clara but not have to ret-con everything that happened in the season finale. Even better would have been take the opportunity to introduce a new companion and not have Clara at all.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
September 19 2015 08:59 GMT
#834
Today is the day.
Big water
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 19 2015 10:12 GMT
#835
holy shit nearly forgot about this today
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12514 Posts
September 20 2015 00:53 GMT
#836
Last two episodes have been better than the last two seasons combined. I may possibly be a little amazed right about now.
No will to live, no wish to die
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 19:44:44
September 27 2015 19:31 GMT
#837
The first 2 episodes that make up the season premiere were excellent except for one detail at the very end that pissed me off so much.

+ Show Spoiler +
"Daleks can't say mercy." EXCEPT THEY HAVE, S5E13, the Dalek shoots The Doctor, then River tells it to beg her for mercy before shooting it, and it does. I'm pretty sure they say it a couple more times too but I'll be fucked if I rewatch everything to find them. Continuity, people, it's not that hard...
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 28 2015 14:22 GMT
#838
Really? I found the two parter pretty dull. Too much focus on Clara and Missy. They're both fairly boring imo. The Doctor's scenes were great (I loooove Capaldi) and the plot was ok (though probably didn't need to be dragged out over 2 episodes), but I honestly can't wait til Clara is gone.
It's your boy Guzma!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 28 2015 15:42 GMT
#839
On September 28 2015 23:22 Requizen wrote:
Really? I found the two parter pretty dull. Too much focus on Clara and Missy. They're both fairly boring imo. The Doctor's scenes were great (I loooove Capaldi) and the plot was ok (though probably didn't need to be dragged out over 2 episodes), but I honestly can't wait til Clara is gone.


Well she announced she was leaving after this season, so that's a great thing. She basically started out as super annoying and became generic longtime companion more recently, which I found tolerable but boring.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 16:36:28
September 28 2015 16:35 GMT
#840
Clara is the best companion! I'm going to miss her. Of course I only started watching this show when she was the companion, but think the impossible girl is awesome and never understood some hate against her. These first 2 eps were fantastic! First person I've seen hate missy too, since she gets pretty much 99% love online and her character is great!
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