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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
And yes, Kill the Moon was ridiculous. Still loved Capaldi's acting, but that script was just wtf. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
I think her outburst is meant to be illogical, and it's just personality clash boiling over, which is something that's kind of been built upon in every episode. He went from Mr. Nice Guy in a bow-tie to Mr. Surly in his regeneration, and it's kind of a weird pairing with Clara. I hope we're nearing a new companion. Clara's story is played out, and Capaldi would probably be even better with a Donna Noble-type companion. Capaldi is so good. | ||
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
The whose situation was incredibly contrived anyway. + Show Spoiler + First of all, most of Earth didn't even know about the egg thing, so when she described the creature to mission control then they would have no idea what she meant. Secondly, if they were voting by lights on/off, then half the world doesn't get a vote even if, in those few minutes, they did somehow manage to coordinate a global effort to vote. Heck, the Scottish Referendum process took longer than that for people to make up their minds and reach a consensus. Also, the astronaut woman was the only one who displayed an ounce of sense. Was Clara really going to risk sacrificing the whole human race for one space dragon, even the "last of its species" (which no one had any way to know was actually true)? She portrayed the risk as "the creature might attack us, or it might now" but no one realized that even if it flew away peacefully, you STILL DON'T HAVE A MOON which would wreak even worse havoc than before. Your choices are literally "kill it" or "die." No "take a chance that it might turn out okay." There was no way to know that it would lay a new egg (which is pretty much biologically impossible, but let's ignore that for now) immediately afterwards, and that would still screw with gravity regardless. Oh, and there's the fact that creatures in eggs get their nourishment and grow off of what's already in the egg. The embryo gets bigger and more massive, but the overall mass stays the same. The moon wouldn't get denser unless it was having external material actually put into it, otherwise it's a closed system. This one somehow managed to make less sense than the Robin Hood episode. | ||
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Motlu
Australia884 Posts
Also Clara and Pink's relationship gasn't grown on me yet, although their dynamic in the caretaker episode gave me hope for an interesting relationship. Personally I think this show would be much better without Clara at this point. How does everyone else feel about the way Who has written all the "protagonists" as almost stupidly fearless in a lot of situations? Oh, and before I forget - Fricking germ spray? Really? | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12467 Posts
- I'm leaving you here to make a choice because it's too important for humanity, I can't interfere. Oh btw, humanity choses to destroy the thing, and the only reason the thing isn't destroyed is Clara, who is here because I... interfered. - "I knew you would make the right decision"... This was NOT the right decision. The problem presented is a problem of incomplete information. Based on the information that was given, humanity SHOULD want to destroy that creature. What kind of positive message does it send about humanity? "If I don't tell you all the facts about a potential threat, you should be able to realize that you're not supposed to destroy it"? What is that about? - I'm Clara, I'm mad at the doctor because the Doctor put me in a situation where humanity's future was in my hands... kind of like he did last week when he had me bait the Skovox Blitzer... or the countless other times where this happened... Literally nothing about this makes any sense at all. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9860 Posts
I quite enjoyed it, though i acknowledge it made absolutely no sense whatsoever. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
and then there's suspending belief. That crap with the moon was just ridiculous | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
The story itself was terrible, though. | ||
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Startyr
Scotland188 Posts
The thing that hatched could even have been said star whale if they wanted to tie it to that earlier episode. What seems stranger is Clara suddenly blowing up with anger as if she has forgotten the whole history of the doctor that she has been intertwined with. The episode is a small glimpse of the decisions he has had to make and the weight of responsibility that rests on his shoulders and Clara knows this, right? The doctor even had the option to destroy the Daleks before they were created and chose not to. It is as if she just wants to be a passive observer that gets to go on 'safe' adventures and gets mad if she has to really be involved, but has that ever been true? Capaldi is very good but the episodes are not living up to the potential of the history/present/future of the entire Universe. (My mistake of course star whales are mammals and would be born, so there are apparently both whales and dragons out there, I wonder if they get along..) | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9860 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12467 Posts
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
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SupaChicken
Australia273 Posts
I love this show a lot and as such I hold it to a certain level of standard. This season has been very hit and miss with it's writing and i think this episode was the worst of the season. I have no issue with the moon being an egg. If I can accept that the Earth formed around a space spider's ship then I can sure as hell accept that. My issue is, as has been pointed out by others, the consistency and coherency. It doesn't really even fit within the established timeline of Doctor Who. This episode is set in the year 2049. They said that people stopped looking to the stars and that all space programs had been shut down. And yet 'The Waters Of Mars' is set just 10 years later in 2059. I have a hard time believing that humanity was able to plan, launch and establish the first colony on Mars in just 10 years after having no space programs for long enough that they had to pull a shuttle out of a museum in order to stop the moon from exploding. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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PardonYou
United States1360 Posts
On October 08 2014 01:09 Requizen wrote: Eh, I think the episode was fine enough. There were some clever moments, Capaldi was good. I rarely think about how specific episodes fit into the timeline, with 50 years of show, movie, comic, and book backlog, thinking about how everything fits together is just going to end up with annoyances. Enjoy it as an episodic with occasional story arcs imo. That's how I treat this, Star Wars, Star Trek, and superhero comics that have been around for a long time. | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14144 Posts
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
an evil Clara? | ||
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