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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 09 2010 12:36 GMT
#381
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Amazing movie
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
June 09 2010 12:37 GMT
#382
On June 09 2010 21:34 FJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 20:40 Licmyobelisk wrote:
On June 05 2010 17:49 Slow Motion wrote:
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Great claustrophobic and psychological movie. Seemingly low budget sci fi but actually very well done.



Yo, just watched it and it was great! Now should I watch the sequel and the prequel or do they suck ass?


Give the second a try, but just don't bother with the prequel.

The second is pretty stupid, but some people think it's alright. But the prequel is a terrible terrible film. I believe it was a different director and writer.


Thanks, did check it out at RT.com and well the sequel was kinda "okay" around 56 percent then the prequel didn't have any ratings. Will do it know
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Aether
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada123 Posts
June 09 2010 14:18 GMT
#383
On June 09 2010 21:36 Zoler wrote:
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Amazing movie


OK dude. Come on now. This movie is one of the worst I've ever seen in my life. I'm sure I'm starting to sound like a "movie snob" but omg, if anyone else has seen this I think they will agree that this movie is ludicrously bad, to the point of being hysterical. I mean this one is so bad, this is the worst movie mentioned in the entire thread, and there are keeanu reeves movies in here.

I really suggest watching this movie only if you're into movies that are just so insanely bad that they're hilarious and you almost can't believe someone paid to have it made. I had a good laugh for that reason, but man is it ever bad. Even the other movies I criticize here like Cannibal Holocaust have some form of merit, I can see why people get some value out of them, even if I think the way the message is delivered completely obfuscates the point being made, but this movie is just so bad it's hard to even believe without seeing it.

It's as if someone took a potentially cool idea, had a 16 year old write the script, got a cast of the least expensive actors they could possibly find, and then shot the movie in a log cabin they found in 1 day, first take every scene because they didn't have enough film to re-shoot the horrible acting.

I may sound very picky about movies, but believe me, this is one that the vast majority of people will agree with me on.
To answer your questions: No, I'm not that Aether and it is pronounced ee-thur. :)
FJ
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom321 Posts
June 09 2010 14:46 GMT
#384
It got an 84 on RT and a 8.1 on IMDB with 30,000+ ratings. It's also 30th on IMDB's list of top Sci-Fi films ever. So I think you are in fact in the minority that doesn't like it.
Disregard females, acquire vespene gas.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 09 2010 14:50 GMT
#385
On June 09 2010 21:16 Aether wrote:
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On June 09 2010 20:19 sc4k wrote:
On June 09 2010 16:35 Aether wrote:
IMO:

Cannibal Holocaust is not a good movie, at least not in a direct way. It's one of those movies that's so bad that it becomes unintentionally hilarious. I've really never understood people who think the gore is disturbing because it's presented in such a ridiculous way that it's impossible to take seriously. I would recommend it because it's hilarious, weird, and a one of those movies that you just want to be able to say "I've seen it", not because it's a good movie though.


Completely disagree. Firstly, even though I could tell the lo-fi quality of the production and the poor quality acting, and even the completely bizarre soundtrack left this movie firmly in B-territory, the story and pacing is extremely disturbing if you allow yourself to take it seriously; and it is a film worth watching as an artistic exploration of primal carnal urges.

I think it's a thrilling ride, with a lot of tension. I also don't think many of the events in the film are as unrealistic as you purport them to be. What you say about the animal cruelty is extremely unfortunate and appalling however.


Yeah I don't know, maybe I've just seen a lot of FAR, FAR more realistic and FAR more violent things than this movie...I don't know, maybe the people who find CH disturbing just haven't been exposed to a more realistic level of brutality.

A big part of my problem with it is that the characters just start doing these things for no real reason whatsoever, or at least not for any reason that a sane individual would ever consider rational, and if the characters aren't representative of the average, sane man, then the entire point the movie is making is lost since it can't be related to our "civilized" society in a general sense.


I haven't watched anything you mentioned there, but I've seen 100+ snuff videos or videos of fatal accidents/ murders. I'm pretty 'conditioned' to the highest level of brutality. I didn't find cannibal holocaust gore disturbing, like you mentioned, but I did find the concept disturbing.

Your evaluation of the realism of the characters' motivations is invalid, in my opinion. I feel that people often behave extremely unusually when they are not 'being judged' by the yardstick of modern society. I feel the two psychological human quirks that are explored in CH are:

- tendency towards savagery

- desensitisation when behind a camera lense

I honestly believe that many people, maybe even a majority of people, have the ability to become vicious, primal, carnal beasts if they are given the freedom to- fucking young girls, killing weak men, burning things just for the sake of it. You only have to look at what the soviets did to the Germans in late WWII. The sort of infectious devolution that's like a disease that spreads when judgment is absent. I think it's a realistic exploration in that sense.

I also believe that people do honestly feel less connected to the world around them when they are behind a camera lense, and therefore the sort of absurd mentality the cameraman gets when he sees his partners being ripped to shreds, just standing there as a casual observer while they come over to him; is extremely disturbing because it is a reaction I can imagine people having.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 09 2010 14:53 GMT
#386
On June 09 2010 23:18 Aether wrote:
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On June 09 2010 21:36 Zoler wrote:
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Amazing movie

It's as if someone took a potentially cool idea, had a 16 year old write the script, got a cast of the least expensive actors they could possibly find, and then shot the movie in a log cabin they found in 1 day, first take every scene because they didn't have enough film to re-shoot the horrible acting.


I don't have the ability to empathize with people like you who find semi-bad things amusing. I find comedy 'hysterical', I find bad movies frustrating and annoying. Regardless of this weird nuance you and various others display, I find myself in between agreeing and disagreeing because this movie delivered a lot less than it could have. And like I already said, pretty much all of the concepts in the movie are much better developed and discussed in mature sci-fi like Star Trek: The Next Generation.

I do think your attack is a little extreme, but the point I quoted here is something I completely agree with.
FJ
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom321 Posts
June 09 2010 15:01 GMT
#387
On June 09 2010 23:50 sc4k wrote:

I've seen 100+ snuff videos


Wha?
Disregard females, acquire vespene gas.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 15:15:41
June 09 2010 15:12 GMT
#388
or videos of fatal accidents/ murders

PS. the reason is weirdly enough that I always considered myself the sort of person in society who tries to help people out...and to come to the rescue when bad things happen. As a consequence, I watched all the most brutal and disturbing videos I could on the internet for awhile, so that when something terrible happens near me I won't be shocked, I'll rather try and help out...It's worked so far actually...
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 15:39:14
June 09 2010 15:38 GMT
#389
On June 09 2010 15:26 WAAA wrote:
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the experiment/das experiment. Very good movie not sure how well known it is tho.


Omg this mlovie is so nice, i see it at school and in the same day i went to a shop to buy it
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FJ
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom321 Posts
June 09 2010 15:38 GMT
#390
I must say, that's a very unique way of thinking lol.
Disregard females, acquire vespene gas.
butasama
Profile Joined June 2010
Japan14 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 15:42:06
June 09 2010 15:39 GMT
#391
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This will soften any cold ass hardcore capitalist. Other than that it's a great f**king movie.
The worst outcrop of herd life, the military system, which I abhor... This plague-spot of civilization ought to be abolished with all possible speed. -Albert Einstein
Volshok
Profile Joined August 2008
United States349 Posts
June 09 2010 16:03 GMT
#392
On June 10 2010 00:39 butasama wrote:
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This will soften any cold ass hardcore capitalist. Other than that it's a great f**king movie.


While the movie itself is a good rendition of Krakauer's Into the Wild, the story of Christoper McCandles is so obnoxiously retarded it isn't even funny. You see hundreds of these people every year in AK. "Hey guys, let's go into the AK wilderness completely unprepared. All the transcendentalist reading I've done is going to be my shield. I'm going to free myself from the shackles of modern society!" And the ill prepared moron is so self righteous I can barely stop myself from laughing at everything that goes wrong.

Without that out of my system; I recommend
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Grave of the Fireflies.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123657
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 09 2010 16:16 GMT
#393
On June 09 2010 23:18 Aether wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 21:36 Zoler wrote:
[image loading]

Amazing movie


OK dude. Come on now. This movie is one of the worst I've ever seen in my life. I'm sure I'm starting to sound like a "movie snob" but omg, if anyone else has seen this I think they will agree that this movie is ludicrously bad, to the point of being hysterical. I mean this one is so bad, this is the worst movie mentioned in the entire thread, and there are keeanu reeves movies in here.

I really suggest watching this movie only if you're into movies that are just so insanely bad that they're hilarious and you almost can't believe someone paid to have it made. I had a good laugh for that reason, but man is it ever bad. Even the other movies I criticize here like Cannibal Holocaust have some form of merit, I can see why people get some value out of them, even if I think the way the message is delivered completely obfuscates the point being made, but this movie is just so bad it's hard to even believe without seeing it.

It's as if someone took a potentially cool idea, had a 16 year old write the script, got a cast of the least expensive actors they could possibly find, and then shot the movie in a log cabin they found in 1 day, first take every scene because they didn't have enough film to re-shoot the horrible acting.

I may sound very picky about movies, but believe me, this is one that the vast majority of people will agree with me on.


Sure this might be your opinion man but do not make stuff up.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/

This movie got an 8.1 score, so apparently YOU are in the minority here.

An awesome quote here from imdb:

It goes to show that you can make great films these days without explosions and killings...so simple yet so effective. Great movie!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Aether
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada123 Posts
June 09 2010 16:17 GMT
#394
Rofl, I was going to write out a thought-out response, but you just compared a documentary crew to soldiers involved in one of the bloodiest if not the bloodiest war in the history of the planet. Do you honestly think what you just wrote makes even a tiny bit of sense?

Your argument is that if you take average people and put them in a forest with a camera they're likely to start raping, murdering, and pillaging just because they can, and your justification for this argument is that some soldiers involved in war, an activity in which you are generally immersed in daily violence and death, adopted sadistic traits.

---->LOL<----

Sorry but if you thought that argument made any sense at all, continuing the discussion is pointless.
To answer your questions: No, I'm not that Aether and it is pronounced ee-thur. :)
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 09 2010 16:20 GMT
#395
On June 10 2010 01:17 Aether wrote:
Rofl, I was going to write out a thought-out response, but you just compared a documentary crew to soldiers involved in one of the bloodiest if not the bloodiest war in the history of the planet. Do you honestly think what you just wrote makes even a tiny bit of sense?

Your argument is that if you take average people and put them in a forest with a camera they're likely to start raping, murdering, and pillaging just because they can, and your justification for this argument is that some soldiers involved in war, an activity in which you are generally immersed in daily violence and death, adopted sadistic traits.

---->LOL<----

Sorry but if you thought that argument made any sense at all, continuing the discussion is pointless.


Maybe you should quote who you're talking to
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 16:29:47
June 09 2010 16:21 GMT
#396
On June 10 2010 00:38 StoLiVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 15:26 WAAA wrote:
[image loading]

the experiment/das experiment. Very good movie not sure how well known it is tho.


Omg this mlovie is so nice, i see it at school and in the same day i went to a shop to buy it


It's worth to know that it was based on the Stanford Prison Experiment, conducted by Zimbardo.

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Aether
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada123 Posts
June 09 2010 16:28 GMT
#397
On June 09 2010 23:46 FJ wrote:
It got an 84 on RT and a 8.1 on IMDB with 30,000+ ratings. It's also 30th on IMDB's list of top Sci-Fi films ever. So I think you are in fact in the minority that doesn't like it.


That would be true if the people who rate movies on IMDB and RT were anywhere remotely close to the majority, but they're not. IMDB ratings are easily tampered with and badly inflated on a regular basis. Movies that haven't even been released to theaters will skyrocket to the top 10 on IMDB. "Up" was in the top 10 of IMDB before it was released, which is one of the things that helped generate the buzz surrounding it.

The featured review of the movie is also written by a _relative of the writer_.
To answer your questions: No, I'm not that Aether and it is pronounced ee-thur. :)
Aether
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada123 Posts
June 09 2010 16:32 GMT
#398
On June 10 2010 01:20 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 01:17 Aether wrote:
Rofl, I was going to write out a thought-out response, but you just compared a documentary crew to soldiers involved in one of the bloodiest if not the bloodiest war in the history of the planet. Do you honestly think what you just wrote makes even a tiny bit of sense?

Your argument is that if you take average people and put them in a forest with a camera they're likely to start raping, murdering, and pillaging just because they can, and your justification for this argument is that some soldiers involved in war, an activity in which you are generally immersed in daily violence and death, adopted sadistic traits.

---->LOL<----

Sorry but if you thought that argument made any sense at all, continuing the discussion is pointless.


Maybe you should quote who you're talking to


OMG. I'm obviously talking to the same person I've been talking to for the last like 5 posts in a row??? Sorry but you people are really stupid, I can't stand talking to you anymore, it's just painful. I feel like I'm getting dumber by the second.

User was temp banned for this post.
To answer your questions: No, I'm not that Aether and it is pronounced ee-thur. :)
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 16:37:51
June 09 2010 16:37 GMT
#399
On June 10 2010 01:32 Aether wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 01:20 Zoler wrote:
On June 10 2010 01:17 Aether wrote:
Rofl, I was going to write out a thought-out response, but you just compared a documentary crew to soldiers involved in one of the bloodiest if not the bloodiest war in the history of the planet. Do you honestly think what you just wrote makes even a tiny bit of sense?

Your argument is that if you take average people and put them in a forest with a camera they're likely to start raping, murdering, and pillaging just because they can, and your justification for this argument is that some soldiers involved in war, an activity in which you are generally immersed in daily violence and death, adopted sadistic traits.

---->LOL<----

Sorry but if you thought that argument made any sense at all, continuing the discussion is pointless.


Maybe you should quote who you're talking to


OMG. I'm obviously talking to the same person I've been talking to for the last like 5 posts in a row??? Sorry but you people are really stupid, I can't stand talking to you anymore, it's just painful. I feel like I'm getting dumber by the second.


Just giving you general advice how to post in a forum man, might be hard for people who just entered the thread to follow. Chill...

Also IMDB is not as inflated as you say, just look at the top 100 and say one movie that shouldn't be there, they're all gold!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 17:55:36
June 09 2010 17:55 GMT
#400
On June 10 2010 01:37 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 01:32 Aether wrote:
On June 10 2010 01:20 Zoler wrote:
On June 10 2010 01:17 Aether wrote:
Rofl, I was going to write out a thought-out response, but you just compared a documentary crew to soldiers involved in one of the bloodiest if not the bloodiest war in the history of the planet. Do you honestly think what you just wrote makes even a tiny bit of sense?

Your argument is that if you take average people and put them in a forest with a camera they're likely to start raping, murdering, and pillaging just because they can, and your justification for this argument is that some soldiers involved in war, an activity in which you are generally immersed in daily violence and death, adopted sadistic traits.

---->LOL<----

Sorry but if you thought that argument made any sense at all, continuing the discussion is pointless.


Maybe you should quote who you're talking to


OMG. I'm obviously talking to the same person I've been talking to for the last like 5 posts in a row??? Sorry but you people are really stupid, I can't stand talking to you anymore, it's just painful. I feel like I'm getting dumber by the second.


Just giving you general advice how to post in a forum man, might be hard for people who just entered the thread to follow. Chill...

Also IMDB is not as inflated as you say, just look at the top 100 and say one movie that shouldn't be there, they're all gold!


It takes 1 second to look at the list and know it's not a serious resource. Shawshank Redemption as the #1 movie ever? Seriously?

I mean it's a good movie, but...
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
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