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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 17 2016 23:46 GMT
#301
On July 18 2016 08:41 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2016 08:41 TomatoBisque wrote:
On July 18 2016 08:40 Azarkon wrote:
On July 18 2016 08:39 TameImpaler wrote:
On July 18 2016 08:27 Azarkon wrote:
Decisions still as bad as ever when not able to win team fights due to pick.


You're talking about OG, right? lelz


As Kuroky said, the pick were against them from the start.

When are westerners going to learn to draft, A-god?


During the international.

You took this "you know for sure who's going to win" too literally, everyone get this ad you know?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10664 Posts
July 17 2016 23:48 GMT
#302
I meant the "saving strats" thing seriously at first. I didn't realize how triggered some guys would get lol. Regardless the better team will win this series for sure.
Skol
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 17 2016 23:49 GMT
#303
You have to know, after all this time, that OG is simply a team that shows up right before big tournaments. I thought they weren't that way in the beginning and was just a one tournament team but they showed me wrong.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
July 17 2016 23:50 GMT
#304
On July 18 2016 08:48 Emnjay808 wrote:
I meant the "saving strats" thing seriously at first. I didn't realize how triggered some guys would get lol. Regardless the better team will win this series for sure.

pretty sure "saving strat" means losing low prize tournament but win TI
6nnn
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
July 17 2016 23:51 GMT
#305
I mean, it's a hard concept to grasp but there's actually a middle ground between "show everything you have and go all in 100%" and "literally no fucks given"

Memers gotta meme though
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
July 17 2016 23:53 GMT
#306
MRP HOTTUB WOAW
High Risk Low Reward
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 17 2016 23:53 GMT
#307
On July 18 2016 08:51 uriel- wrote:
I mean, it's a hard concept to grasp but there's actually a middle ground between "show everything you have and go all in 100%" and "literally no fucks given"

Memers gotta meme though

only because the people who actually believe a team lost because they were "saving strats" seriously ran it into the ground first.
secret - never again
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 17 2016 23:53 GMT
#308
On July 18 2016 08:50 sunrazgriz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2016 08:48 Emnjay808 wrote:
I meant the "saving strats" thing seriously at first. I didn't realize how triggered some guys would get lol. Regardless the better team will win this series for sure.

pretty sure "saving strat" means losing low prize tournament but win TI

Or just trying new stuff like first pick morph and 2nd pick storm no AM ban both times, I doubt we'll see that kind of stuff from them at TI.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 17 2016 23:54 GMT
#309
These bath tub interviews are so...
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 17 2016 23:54 GMT
#310
On July 18 2016 08:48 Emnjay808 wrote:
I meant the "saving strats" thing seriously at first. I didn't realize how triggered some guys would get lol. Regardless the better team will win this series for sure.


Most of the teams actually are "saving strats", as we've really not seen any pocket-picks in elimination matches. Everyone but Wings has stayed roughly in the meta as it was coming into this tournament.

But what shows up in the games is that the Meta isn't shifting in-tournament, so teams are still trying to win. It just looks like they're not giving it their best/pull out all of the tricks. Which is part of what made The Summit 4 such a dang good tournament, as it was played a week before 6.86 dropped. So we got to see everyone's best ideas, and it made for some really good Dota.

The Summit 5 has been a lot more "meh" and "who can throw last?" Dota.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 17 2016 23:55 GMT
#311
3 guys 1 bathtub
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 17 2016 23:57 GMT
#312
On July 18 2016 08:54 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2016 08:48 Emnjay808 wrote:
I meant the "saving strats" thing seriously at first. I didn't realize how triggered some guys would get lol. Regardless the better team will win this series for sure.


Most of the teams actually are "saving strats", as we've really not seen any pocket-picks in elimination matches. Everyone but Wings has stayed roughly in the meta as it was coming into this tournament.

But what shows up in the games is that the Meta isn't shifting in-tournament, so teams are still trying to win. It just looks like they're not giving it their best/pull out all of the tricks. Which is part of what made The Summit 4 such a dang good tournament, as it was played a week before 6.86 dropped. So we got to see everyone's best ideas, and it made for some really good Dota.

The Summit 5 has been a lot more "meh" and "who can throw last?" Dota.

Drow climbed the pick/ban ladder really high as this trend was not so pronounced in the West before the tournament, that's already a small meta shift.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
July 18 2016 00:02 GMT
#313
The return of huskar into this series.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 18 2016 00:04 GMT
#314
On July 18 2016 08:57 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2016 08:54 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On July 18 2016 08:48 Emnjay808 wrote:
I meant the "saving strats" thing seriously at first. I didn't realize how triggered some guys would get lol. Regardless the better team will win this series for sure.


Most of the teams actually are "saving strats", as we've really not seen any pocket-picks in elimination matches. Everyone but Wings has stayed roughly in the meta as it was coming into this tournament.

But what shows up in the games is that the Meta isn't shifting in-tournament, so teams are still trying to win. It just looks like they're not giving it their best/pull out all of the tricks. Which is part of what made The Summit 4 such a dang good tournament, as it was played a week before 6.86 dropped. So we got to see everyone's best ideas, and it made for some really good Dota.

The Summit 5 has been a lot more "meh" and "who can throw last?" Dota.

Drow climbed the pick/ban ladder really high as this trend was not so pronounced in the West before the tournament, that's already a small meta shift.


Well, we had a sort-of International LAN last week, and Drow was the king there. Though the fact it was 5 Chinese teams just mean the Chinese meta was in. Though DC was the ones to finally do the most logical thing with first-pick Drow: Mid Medusa.

If Drow goes into TI6 as still a phase 1 pick, we'll see a lot better drafting around it.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 18 2016 00:05 GMT
#315
I dont understand Wings draft
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
July 18 2016 00:05 GMT
#316
Ench and spirit breaker. CLASSIC WINGS.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
July 18 2016 00:07 GMT
#317
Wings gaming it :D
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 18 2016 00:07 GMT
#318
On July 18 2016 09:05 wims80 wrote:
I dont understand Wings draft


Can you run at people super early? If Yes, then it's something Wings will draft.

Wings vs MVP.P could be a really epic series. The counter-punish stuff would be fun to watch.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
July 18 2016 00:07 GMT
#319
On July 18 2016 09:05 wims80 wrote:
I dont understand Wings draft

That's pretty much the point lol.
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
July 18 2016 00:11 GMT
#320
Both offlaners having a feeding competition.
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